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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-19 18:45:51
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Ruaumoko said: »
I've no grudge against Bernie Sanders, I really don't. He seems an earnest person who has a good heart. Sadly, a good heart isn't the key component for being the leader of the major superpower in the world of today. That's a job for a head filled with realism. Sanders might have been a great president but America in its current state is just not ready for him, he's ahead of his time

A good heart is a key component for being the leader of THE major superpower.

The last president we had with a good heart was President Jimmy Carter. The world known 4 years without the US military firing a single missile or bullet or invasion, it was truly 4 years of Peace from America. Which majority of our Presidents can not claim.

Carter rebelled against the establishment parties trying to warmonger him into joining conflicts overseas. In return both parties fought him on policies domestically and our economy suffered from. he was also the last President to stand for palestinian support and strongly push for a two state solution honestly and he was met against strong zionist support within the US and abroad.

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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-19 18:53:54
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Imagine if we had a president who listened and did what America wants instead of a foreign nations needs.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-19 19:56:27
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I've more or less accepted Hillary Clinton as the next President. It was going to be difficult to prevent no matter what, but this unbelievable negative campaign against him and collusion with the media and celebrity, immediately beginning every sentence about Donald Trump with the word "racist" or "hate", this will be nearly impossible to overcome. Stephen Colbert literally using a swastika image to describe Donald Trump on what is supposed to be a comedy show; completely exploiting a horrible tragedy for Democrat political gain. This propaganda sinks in.
So do you just ignore Trump whenever he opens his mouth and says racist or hateful stuff? It's not really propaganda to repeat quotes, in context, and make a statement based on them.
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What did he say that was racist?

Does anyone even know what that word means any more?
-Questioning if someone is a natural born citizen, even when lots of evidence suggests that they are not.
That's definitely racist.
-Claiming that illegal immigrants are rapists while we all ignore the reality of the trail of crime due to such activity.
That's racist.
-Thinking you should have a judge hearing your case that's not the son of the problematic nation you're constantly speaking out against.
Even more racist than racist.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-19 20:00:11
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I'll continue...
-Thinking we might need better screening of Muslims entering the US.
Absolutely prejudice.

Being Right is Racist!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-19 20:17:45
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Just as I thought, you don't know what the hell the word racist even means.

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By Jassik 2016-06-19 20:26:21
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-Thinking we might need better screening of Muslims entering the US.
Absolutely prejudice.

Being Right is Racist!

You can't screen based on religion, it's in violation of the 1st amendment.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-19 20:57:54
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-Thinking we might need better screening of Muslims entering the US.
Absolutely prejudice.

Being Right is Racist!

You can't screen based on religion, it's in violation of the 1st amendment.
Who said anything about screening based on religion? Plenty of Muslims live in the US and would be more safe, like the rest of us, if we made sure the wrong ppl do not arrive here.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-19 21:28:32
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Imagine if we had a president who listened and did what America wants instead of a foreign nations needs.
Many Americans believe global warming is caused by natural changes in the environment in which it is observed...implying that global warming causes itself. So, yeah, *** that.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-19 21:43:33
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Imagine if we had a president who listened and did what America wants instead of a foreign nations needs.
Many Americans believe global warming is caused by natural changes in the environment in which it is observed...implying that global warming causes itself. So, yeah, *** that.
To be fair, that is how global warming has occurred for the past 4+ billion years.
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By Zululu 2016-06-19 22:02:54
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As a kid in Wisconsin, I remember trick or treat in snow often. Now, we rarely have it then and last winter we had 2.5 months of snow instead of the usual 5-6. No snow on Christmas, people wearing shorts on a 65 degree day in December. People still complaint in March about cold and snow.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-19 22:22:33
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Trump fights racketeering claim in Trump University suit
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Lawyers for Donald Trump are fighting claims that his Trump University real estate seminar program amounted to a racketeering operation under federal law.

In a court filing Friday night, Trump's attorneys reject allegations in a federal class-action lawsuit that Trump University violated the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act and that Trump was directly involved in those violations.

"This case was an overreach from inception. It stretches civil RICO beyond the breaking point and would effectively federalize consumer advertising fraud claims, and subject officers, directors, and employees of every Fortune 500 company to unwarranted personal liability," Trump lawyers Daniel Petrocelli and David Kirman wrote. "Not a single case plaintiff cites comes close to approving of civil RICO claims on the garden-variety consumer claims here."

Trump is asking U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel to toss out the lawsuit, which is one of two pending class actions. The request comes as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has begun to emerge from a media firestorm he caused by publicly accusing Curiel of bias and attributing that bias to the judge's Latino heritage. Numerous Democratic leaders and several prominent GOP figures blasted Trump's remarks as racist.

Curiel has not publicly responded to Trump's racial remarks, but tersely noted in a ruling last month that the presidential nominee "has placed the integrity of these proceedings at issue."

Trump's legal team appears to face an uphill battle in trying to get the suit thrown out, since the judge issued a ruling in 2014 that the RICO claim could proceed as a class action and has rejected a similar summary judgment motion in the parallel lawsuit.

Attorneys pressing the suits against Trump on behalf of former Trump University students say the program fraudulently advertised that instructors were hand-picked by Trump and that students would learn the real estate mogul's "secrets." Even calling the program a "university" was a fraud, the lawsuits contend.

Trump's lawyers say claims that students would be told Trump's "secrets" or that he was personally involved in selecting teachers were, at worst, marketing "puffery" not intended to be taken literally.

"Plaintiff cannot dispute that students had vastly different interpretations of the terms 'secrets,' 'hand-picked,' and 'university,'" Petrocelli and Kirman wrote, calling the marketing language "vague and highly subjective claims, and not the type of detailed factual assertion necessary to prove fraud."

Trump's lawyers also say there's no evidence that Trump himself was involved in crafting the statements now said to be fraudulent.

Invoking the federal RICO statute creates the possibility that former Trump University students, many of whom paid about $1,500 for a three-day seminar and some of whom paid nearly $35,000 for a mentorship program, could receive triple damages and the class-action lawyers pursuing the case could recover their attorneys' fees.

While the law passed in 1970 was initially focused on businesses run by the Mafia, it has since been used to go after a wide variety of enterprises, including ordinary corporations allegedly engaged in fraud, as well as activists like anti-abortion campaigners accused of illegally obstructing clinics.

Curiel is scheduled to hear arguments on the summary judgment motion in San Diego on July 22, one day after the end of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland where Trump is expected to receive the Republican presidential nomination.

The judge has set a trial for Nov. 28 in the parallel class-action suit pressing claims that Trump University violated state anti-fraud laws in California, Florida and New York.

In the meantime, Curiel is fielding requests from media organizations to clear the way for the public release of videos of Trump's depositions in the pair of lawsuits. Trump's lawyers are fighting to keep the videos under wraps. A hearing on that issue is set for June 30, but lawyers on all sides have asked that it be held next week.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-19 22:26:39
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I hear Clinton has collage issues too, those crooks got there hands in education as well.
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By Jassik 2016-06-19 22:58:33
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Imagine if we had a president who listened and did what America wants instead of a foreign nations needs.
Many Americans believe global warming is caused by natural changes in the environment in which it is observed...implying that global warming causes itself. So, yeah, *** that.
To be fair, that is how global warming has occurred for the past 4+ billion years.

There weren't people for the last 4 billion years and we have the power to keep the warming we caused from ending us. Renewable energy is the only way the human race will survive and thrive in the next century, regardless of what you think about global warming. Sticking with fossil fuels is like doubling down on hydrogen while watching the Hindenburg crash.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-19 23:41:58
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People aren't going to change their ways, no matter how much doom and gloom rhetoric is fed to them. If you want to drastically reduce carbon emissions, there is only one possible way to make it happen. Innovate something that's cheaper and no less than equal in quality, or it will never gain traction.

Climate change is now political, like it or not. Money is universal. Appeal to the latter or fail.
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By Jassik 2016-06-19 23:56:44
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
People aren't going to change their ways, no matter how much doom and gloom rhetoric is fed to them. If you want to drastically reduce carbon emissions, there is only one possible way to make it happen. Innovate something that's cheaper and no less than equal in quality, or it will never gain traction.

Climate change is now political, like it or not. Money is universal. Appeal to the latter or fail.

They already are. In many countries, clean energy is already prevalent. In some places in the US it's already cheaper, too. The problem is that big oil has far too much influence and the infrastructure in place is too entrenched. It's only a matter of time, and the government needs to actually level the playing field. Stop subsidizing both oil and solar, let the market take it's course, because it's trending fast and faster toward renewable even with the low price of oil.
 
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By Jassik 2016-06-20 01:05:04
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Sorry, earth.

Earth is fine. It's the things living on Earth that are screwed.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-20 01:21:43
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Sorry, earth.

Earth is fine. It's the things living on Earth that are screwed.

At least we humans are a sturdy bunch we can survive black plagues, religious purges, natural disasters, war amoung our kind, i just wonder what our ancestors would say about us today accepting so much *** and fearing our own speech or not thinking for ourselves.

Clearly Trump does not fear his own speech that's about as much as i can relate with him. The Era of holding back words to please a few is over, the appeasement and apologizing about our past is over.

What I feel Trump and Sanders bring good to the national discussion is about focusing on fixing America because God knows there a lot of work that needs done in these 50 States, to hell with the rest of the world.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-20 01:41:03
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I'll continue...
-Thinking we might need better screening of Muslims entering the US.
Absolutely prejudice.

Being Right is Racist!

Your right you should hear what our glorious attorney general is doing to all the original 911 calls from Orlando she is removing all calls recorded that have Islamic terrorism, Muslim shooter, ISIS attack. Saying it's no relation, yet looking at the guys social media he calls himself a solider for Allah and glorification of the other two anchor babies like himself responsible for Boston bombing.
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By Odinz 2016-06-20 02:01:25
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with regards to global warming, the way I see it is as such:
we the human species are a cancer, and are going to kill this organism called earth because its what we do. All the rationality, science and data is going to change our cancerous drives to wreck havoc on our environment and planet until it is dead, taking us with it.
 
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
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I'll continue...
-Thinking we might need better screening of Muslims entering the US.
Absolutely prejudice.

Being Right is Racist!

Your right you should hear what our glorious attorney general is doing to all the original 911 calls from Orlando she is removing all calls recorded that have Islamic terrorism, Muslim shooter, ISIS attack. Saying it's no relation, yet looking at the guys social media he calls himself a solider for Allah and glorification of the other two anchor babies like himself responsible for Boston bombing.
Honestly though, and Im not trying to argue, what difference does it make? We alrdy know. Muslims themselves alrdy know. Terrorists are a potential threat to both them and us alike. He can claim whatever he wants. He doesnt speak for all. If anything I find it more of a slap in his face alone than ours. He's nobody. Just a mentally disturbed individual.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-20 04:30:56
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Odinz said: »
with regards to global warming, the way I see it is as such:
we the human species are a cancer, and are going to kill this organism called earth because its what we do. All the rationality, science and data is going to change our cancerous drives to wreck havoc on our environment and planet until it is dead, taking us with it.
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Sorry, earth.

Earth is fine. It's the things living on Earth that are screwed.
We're not cancer of anything, just a species that should care about its well being. Every species does it in an attempt to thrive. There are bacteria out there with far more destructive tendencies than us.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-20 07:03:24
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Trumps warning of rapist from migrants was no so far fetched this happened this month and never seen so much as a glimpse on our faithful cnn, msnbc, fox,nbc, abc always preaching everything is ok in America, take a gander at this.

Muslim Migrants Sexually Assault 5-Year Old In Idaho

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On 2 June, 2016 a five-year old girl with special needs was playing outside her home at the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls, Idaho when she was taken by knife point to the shared laundry facilities on the premises by three boys from two refugee families, ages 13, 9, and 8 years old who sexually assaulted and urinated on her. The eight year old is also reported to have cut another young child’s arm with his knife a week before school was adjourned.

According to the victim’s mother, a trusted neighbor discovered her daughter with the three boys. Her clothes had been stripped off by the boys who were also naked and the 13 year old had a phone which allegedly held video of the incident. The mother and father of the victim promptly arrived on the scene after being alerted by the neighbor.

The video on the phone displayed the sexual assault of the five year old girl according to the father who viewed it, and reportedly shows the older boy coaching the younger ones during the assault and attempted rape of the little girl as well as urinating in her mouth and over her body as they pinned her against a wall.

The mother took the victim home immediately, stating she was going to call the police. Shortly after arriving home the mother of one of the attackers showed up at the victim’s home demanding in broken English, “No police, everything ok.”


The police were called and arrived on the scene two and a half hours later, at which point the cell phone was given to the local authorities. The mother of the victim has also reported receiving threats by two young men of Middle Eastern descent, who told her they will come after her if she pursues the police with this matter.

The Twin Falls Police Department finally made arrests of the two older boys on June 18, 2016. However, they have not placed a restraining order on the families involved even after the request was made by the girl’s family. Instead the perpetrators remain in the comfort of their own home and have been spotted running around the complex grounds.

In the meantime, the victim’s mother had to find a place where her daughter could be taken care of safely in the immediate aftermath of the trauma, but the family’s funds are limited and the little girl has to stay in the same apartment complex as all three of her attackers.

The police department and county Prosecutor, Grant Loebs, have not acted in a timely fashion to protect the victim and her family from the attack by the Muslim refugees or from intimidation and harassment received from the refugee community in the aftermath.

Twin Falls, Idaho is a hot spot for refugees, and the College of Southern Idaho (CSI) is the only refugee resettlement agency bringing them to the Magic Valley Region. Approximately 300 refugees were placed in fiscal year 2015, and more recent arrivals have included large numbers of individuals from Iraq, Congo, Burma, Bhutan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. Since 1984, 5,000 refugees from Iraq and Iran have been settled there.

According to Julie Ruf, a local leader and concerned citizen, there have been up to 200 local residents who have voiced concerns over the program for over a year to their City Council, Police department, and the CSI trustee board. They have received scorn instead of answers to their numerous questions and concerns regarding the refugees like: the welfare costs involved, the increased tax burden on local residents, healthcare, educational, and last but not least issues of national security and public safety concerns related to these individuals being settled in their city.

The local internet news source, Magic Valley, has published names of concerned citizens who dared question the program and tried to belittle them. If the MagicValley.com news site would print the facts of the Refugee Resettlement Program instead, they may have additional citizens concerned about the settling of Muslim refugees who adhere to Sharia Law within their communities. Incidentally, the mother of the boys involved in the assault wears a full burka in a display of adherence to the Sharia.

Muslim law states a woman’s life is worth half of a man’s, a husband may beat his wife, men are superior to women in intelligence and religion, and they can also be stoned for adultery. (See: Sharia Law for Non-Muslims by Dr. Bill Warner, Chapter 3) These families who are being settled by the tens of thousands and soon to be hundreds of thousands in our country have lived with the common sexual assault of Muslim and non-Muslim women and the lack of negative consequences for those actions.

According to a Magicvalley.com article,

“CSI’s president. Jeff Fox, stated the following last June about the program when opinions from legislators were sent to him out of concerns they were hearing from their constituents.

“There is nothing to hide or fear about the Refugee Center’s operations. There is a long and successful track record.”

There may have been a glowing track record before the Federal refugee program started admitting Sunni Muslim refugees into America from warring Islamic countries, but now there plenty of stories where they don’t assimilate into western culture.

Take into account the skyrocketing sexual assaults happening all over Europe where ever Muslim majority immigrants/refugees have settled. Sweden, for example, is now the rape capital of the West trailing only North Africa. They have a 2% Muslim male population with 77% Muslims perpetrating the reported rapes. It is doubtful Magic Valley news or the CSI pays any attention to those details.

Rep. Maxine Bell, for instance had this to say about concerns being raised about the CSI program,

“The history of incoming refugees goes back a long way. We should be a haven for people to express their own religion and freedoms.”

She continued about concerns from those in the community,

“I’m troubled that they would be concerned, I assume it’s part of a concern about the people in the areas where Sharia law is and where things are different. I hope that CSI is able to put that to rest with people who are really, really concerned.”

Do you think Rep. Bell believes the Muslim refugee boys who sexually assaulted a girl by knife point have a right to practice those freedoms now? Wonder if she would like male refugees with little to no respect for women settled in the same community as her family members or granddaughters? Realistically, however, our legislators are far too wealthy and privileged to live in the same vicinity as the refugees they bring into lower income communities.

Rep. Maxine Bell and all the other legislators who stand by and do nothing but parrot how impressed they are with the refugee program at CSI should be required to take a course in the doctrine of Sharia Law as well as the political ideology espoused by Muslims. Why is it that many regular citizens of this country are more educated on the facts and the dangers of Islam and their elected officials choose to remain ignorant of them?

Most legislators are silent about a program that not only resettles refugees who are in opposition to our Constitution, but is a threat to our personal safety and those of our families. These elected leaders place themselves in dereliction of their duty and should resign if they are not advocating for the safety of their constituents, not the least of which are five year old girls. But, they are far too concerned about the money involved in settling the refugees.

For example the Chobani yogurt factory, owned by the wealthy Muslim immigrant, Hamdi Ulukaya, from Turkey. According to a WND article, he wants to give corporate cash, lobbying initiatives, services and jobs to refugees. Thirty percent of his workforce is dependent on refugees being shipped to him from the Middle East and Africa. Sexual assaults and rapes surely should not get in the way of big business.

Just like this horrific assault to the body, innocence, and future of this five year old child happened because of a program championed by the College of Southern Idaho. Their naive belief that refugees from warring Islamic countries can be “vetted” and brought to live among American citizens without causing countless negative and traumatic consequences is incredulous.

The prime responsibility for this incident lies with President Obama, Congress, the State Department, and all agencies who willingly resettle Muslim refugees into America. From the president who has denied his oath of office by continuing a dangerous refugee program, the State Department whose job is to support Americans interest abroad, but ushers in the very enemies of our Constitution and threats to our national security and personal safety, our Congress who voted to fund the refugee program, and finally volunteer agencies who take money per head, funded by the American tax-payer, in order to place unvetted individuals among Americans.

This story reveals how Muslim refugees never can be totally vetted and there is no way of assessing the violence they will commit due to their ideology and culture. Yet, the Twin Falls local government continues to disregard the local citizens well-founded questions about the refugee program and the federal government continues to accelerate it, damn the consequences.
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-06-20 07:13:46
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Trump hates muslims stuff

I really like how they have a GoFundMe started for the victims family, really helps legitimize the whole thing.

If your argument is that because of this case that we really should support Trumps idea of not allowing immigrants to come into the country because something like this might happen, then it really falls flat with me.

Right now, in the county I live in alone, there are at least 4 pending trials involving the molestation and rape of underage children. All of the people standing accused are white American males.

If you ask me, 4 cases vs 1, maybe we should take a harder look at a different group of people before we try and decide who we want in/out of our country.
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 07:55:34
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Take your underage rape cases to the underage rape thread !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-20 08:11:42
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Originally reported as a suspected mexican cartel slaying. Now it's "we don't know and refuse to speculate" ....to be fair to the columbian cartels who are offended by being called mexicans?

8 dead in ohio

Is it racist to suspect Los Zetas aka "The Cartel of the North" who were founded by 30 mexican military members and are very well known for using military style tactics.

Or should we start kicking down old lady's doors that belong to the the Rotarians?

you probably haven't heard of this story since it doesn't effect you or fit the current narrative. but this is the kind of ***trump is blabbering on about and I thought perhaps if you read and understood it, some of his insane gibberish would make more sense
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 08:32:02
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I don't know how people cant wake up everyday without hating Trump. It must be hard to spend most of your life hating the next President !
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-06-20 08:34:34
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If both candidates are so bad can't you all just chuck in a vote of no confidence for them both and say "you both suck, get out" and start over?

If only it were that easy.
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 08:41:02
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It is pretty impressive that Trump is doing well in spite of the 24/7 negative coverage. It proves that most people realize that CNN MSNBC etc are a joke. And people are smarter than the media gives them credit.
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