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Trump Talk™
By Jassik 2016-06-07 19:54:40
You obviously would rather rely on presumption than examine the problem objectively. Objectively - one whom pampers with nonstop pitty illegal immigrants regardless of how many have come legally. Quote: As pleebo noted, our current diversity is mostly due to previous immigration policies. In the 20's when my great grandparents immigrated here, they simply showed up at Ellis Island and filled out some forms. Back in the 1920 America was not a diverse nation.
Quote: Look at the actual statistics and previous immigration policies and when the large migrations were. It would add a lot of perspective to your argument. I'll hop right on it
Pampering with pity? Three generations of my family and my wife all immigrated here legally, none from any Latin country, either. I have no pity or sympathy for people who enter the us illegally or overstay visas. I'm looking at the problem in a broader context than assumption and ineffectual phallic symbols.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-07 19:59:38
You obviously would rather rely on presumption than examine the problem objectively. Objectively - one whom pampers with nonstop pitty illegal immigrants regardless of how many have come legally. Quote: As pleebo noted, our current diversity is mostly due to previous immigration policies. In the 20's when my great grandparents immigrated here, they simply showed up at Ellis Island and filled out some forms. Back in the 1920 America was not a diverse nation.
Quote: Look at the actual statistics and previous immigration policies and when the large migrations were. It would add a lot of perspective to your argument. I'll hop right on it
Pampering with pity? Three generations of my family and my wife all immigrated here legally, none from any Latin country, either. I have no pity or sympathy for people who enter the us illegally or overstay visas. I'm looking at the problem in a broader context than assumption and ineffectual phallic symbols. Your "broader context" was brilliant. I heard it. America's Immigration policies have forced ppl into being illegal immigrants. This is all obviously America's fault. We need to fix it.
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By Jassik 2016-06-07 20:09:28
I didn't say anything of that sort. What I said was that a wall will not stem the flow on its own. In fact, plenty of countries have essentially no physical borders and don't have the trouble we do. This isn't dynastic China.
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By Drama Torama 2016-06-07 20:27:40
This isn't dynastic China.
No, their citizens could do math
By Jetackuu 2016-06-07 20:29:12
This isn't dynastic China.
No, their citizens could do math
Dude! But it's true...
By Jassik 2016-06-07 20:30:17
This isn't dynastic China.
No, their citizens could do math
That's a harmful stereotype!
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By Drama Torama 2016-06-07 20:31:17
This isn't dynastic China.
No, their citizens could do math
That's a harmful stereotype!
NOT THAT. They invented it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_mathematics
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-07 20:45:33
Immigration laws used to be much more relaxed. You can't attribute our high diversity to current laws. Dont explain your point. Just ignore everything I said and continue to blame the USA. Perhaps read the *** post?
It used to be that if you could work, you could get in. Many people's families got here at a point in history where the biggest obstacle to citizenship was simply getting here. We're all familiar with how black people got here. Why ignore history especially considering our unofficial position as a nation of immigrants?
By Jassik 2016-06-07 20:52:29
0 was invented in Africa, Algebra in Baghdad.
Why don't we see Iraqis and think they're good at math?!
By fonewear 2016-06-07 21:24:52
0 was invented in Africa, Algebra in Baghdad.
Why don't we see Iraqis and think they're good at math?!
Cause *** em that's why !
By fonewear 2016-06-07 21:40:08
Immigration laws used to be much more relaxed. You can't attribute our high diversity to current laws. Dont explain your point. Just ignore everything I said and continue to blame the USA.
It used to be that if you could work, you could get in. Many people's families got here at a point in history where the biggest obstacle to citizenship was simply getting here. We're all familiar with how black people got here. Why ignore history especially considering our unofficial position as a nation of immigrants?
Never !
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By fonewear 2016-06-07 21:40:37
I don't have time to read just give me the gist of it !
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-07 23:16:01
Immigration laws used to be much more relaxed. You can't attribute our high diversity to current laws. Dont explain your point. Just ignore everything I said and continue to blame the USA. Perhaps read the *** post?
It used to be that if you could work, you could get in. Many people's families got here at a point in history where the biggest obstacle to citizenship was simply getting here. You ignored everything else I said so perhaps reading doesnt apply to you. None of what you say makes the US immigration laws impossible to become a US citizen. Im not living in the year 1920 are you?
Quote: We're all familiar with how black people got here. Why ignore history especially considering our unofficial position as a nation of immigrants? Ya dont say... that changes everything but what in the world does that have to do with Illegal Immigration or anything else for the matter. Other than throwing something everybody is aware of out there for no reason as if it some how has some sort of impact on the subject.
What DO we attribute America's diversity to then if not US immigration law? We're diverse due to illegals? Maybe by mistake? Or possibly the diversity came from forging documents? If we aint a diverse nation due to our own laws of immigration then you aint making any sense whatsoever cuz we sure as hell are not a diverse nation due to slavery.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-07 23:26:15
I was only addressing your one argument of how current ("atm") policy somehow explains our current diversity. It doesn't. I said nothing about current laws making it impossible. I said nothing about diversity being attributed to illegal immigration. I have no *** clue what you're going on about and probably neither do you.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-07 23:32:29
As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. Your "broader context" was brilliant. I heard it. America's Immigration policies have forced ppl into being illegal immigrants. This is all obviously America's fault. We need to fix it. I didn't say anything of that sort. I guess your blaming illegals themselves then and not US laws? Great now I can move on. Thank you. Quote: What I said was that a wall will not stem the flow on its own. In fact, plenty of countries have essentially no physical borders and don't have the trouble we do. This isn't dynastic China. Yeah maybe the wall does nothing. Which is kind of why I posted that Warning:Sign threatening Arrest & Prosecution.
Personally Idgaf about illegals that much to watch Mexico's cartels spill over (if they havent alrdy...) into the US. Id rather not see this country turned into a homeless shelter for illegal immigrants nor looking like a 3rd world country. That *** everyone American over, whites-blacks-latinos and everyone else included living here
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-06-08 00:24:04
Jesus H Christ on a stick!
1. Curiel is not a member of La Raza. He's a member of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego which has nothing to do with La Raza other than containing the name.
2. Immigration laws fluctuated in terms of being strict v relaxed. Example Chinese Exclusionary Act (strict) and open door policy to Koreans post Korean War (relaxed). It's all based on agendas of the era.
If we wanted to fix illegal immigration as an issue we need to fix our foreign policies in respect to how we create instability in regions forcing people to flee to stable nations that aren't in chaos.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2016-06-08 00:38:52
Jesus H Christ on a stick!
Jesus was on two sticks.
Quote: 1. Curiel is not a member of La Raza. He's a member of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego which has nothing to do with La Raza other than containing the name.
Much like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the National Socialist German Workers' Party, if the groups share even one word they are all exactly the same.
Quote: If we wanted to fix illegal immigration as an issue we need to fix our foreign policies in respect to how we create instability in regions forcing people to flee to stable nations that aren't in chaos.
Fix illegal immigration? Why would you take away a perfectly good wedge issue?
By Jassik 2016-06-08 00:41:26
As long as it's so difficult and expensive to do it legally, they'll keep doing it illegally. Your "broader context" was brilliant. I heard it. America's Immigration policies have forced ppl into being illegal immigrants. This is all obviously America's fault. We need to fix it. I didn't say anything of that sort. I guess your blaming illegals themselves then and not US laws? Great now I can move on. Thank you. Quote: What I said was that a wall will not stem the flow on its own. In fact, plenty of countries have essentially no physical borders and don't have the trouble we do. This isn't dynastic China. Yeah maybe the wall does nothing. Which is kind of why I posted that Warning:Sign threatening Arrest & Prosecution.
Personally Idgaf about illegals that much to watch Mexico's cartels spill over (if they havent alrdy...) into the US. Id rather not see this country turned into a homeless shelter for illegal immigrants nor looking like a 3rd world country. That *** everyone American over, whites-blacks-latinos and everyone else included living here
Pointing out a critical flaw in Trump's proposed fix for illegal immigration isn't even close to saying we're forcing them to come illegally. Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. There is no way this is that hard to understand.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-06-08 09:03:30
So Paul Ryan calling Trump's statement the "textbook definition of a racist comment." confirm him for Democratic shill yet?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-08 09:06:37
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »So Paul Ryan calling Trump's statement the "textbook definition of a racist comment." confirm him for Democratic shill yet?
More like a panicked establishment Republican trying to save his own skin.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-08 09:09:22
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
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By fonewear 2016-06-08 09:12:31
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
I think Spanish should be the official language of America. I'm tired of everyone speaking English I want to order something from Taco Bell in Spanish damn it !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-08 09:18:44
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
I think Spanish should be the official language of America. I'm tired of everyone speaking English I want to order something from Taco Bell in Spanish damn it !
If it's anything like my area, you have to order in English at the Taco Bell. If you want to order something in Spanish, go to the Panda Express.
Logic!
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By fonewear 2016-06-08 09:19:30
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
I think Spanish should be the official language of America. I'm tired of everyone speaking English I want to order something from Taco Bell in Spanish damn it !
If it's anything like my area, you have to order in English at the Taco Bell. If you want to order something in Spanish, go to the Panda Express.
Logic!
If I want to talk to Korean women I just get my nails done !
By fonewear 2016-06-08 09:21:10
The immigrants are everywhere I can't find a "true blooded" American anywhere !
By Jassik 2016-06-08 09:21:34
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
Then why waste money on signs? It's already illegal to enter the US without permission.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-08 09:22:03
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
I think Spanish should be the official language of America. I'm tired of everyone speaking English I want to order something from Taco Bell in Spanish damn it !
If it's anything like my area, you have to order in English at the Taco Bell. If you want to order something in Spanish, go to the Panda Express.
Logic!
If I want to talk to Korean women I just get my nails done !
And if you want to talk to men posing as women, play FFXI.
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By fonewear 2016-06-08 09:24:16
Putting up signs in a language they don't speak won't do ***either. Arrest & Prosecute - who gives a *** who can or cannot read the english language.
I think Spanish should be the official language of America. I'm tired of everyone speaking English I want to order something from Taco Bell in Spanish damn it !
If it's anything like my area, you have to order in English at the Taco Bell. If you want to order something in Spanish, go to the Panda Express.
Logic!
If I want to talk to Korean women I just get my nails done !
And if you want to talk to men posing as women, play FFXI.
I want to talk to men posing as Olympic athletes that turn out to be women...
By Ramyrez 2016-06-08 09:24:35
And if you want to talk to men posing as women, play FFXI.
That's my...!
...wait. Wait no.
That's not even close to my fetish!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-08 09:24:39
The immigrants are everywhere I can't find a "true blooded" American anywhere !
It helps to find an accurate portrayal of one so that you know what to look for. You know, something like this:
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Quote: US TV network NBC is cutting ties with Donald Trump over "recent derogatory statements" that the veteran businessman made about immigrants.
NBC said the company would now not be airing the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants that are co-owned by Mr Trump.
Responding to the announcement, Mr Trump said he would consider suing NBC.
Earlier this month, he accused Mexicans of adding drugs and crime to the US as he announced he was seeking the Republican presidential nomination.
"They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some I assume are good people, but I speak to border guards, and they tell us what we are getting," he said in his speech on 16 June.
He also pledged to build a "great wall" on the US border with Mexico and insisted it would be paid for by Mexicans.
He later insisted he was criticising US lawmakers, not Mexican people.
I'm honestly surprised with some of the shit he says. Even though I probably shouldn't be.
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