Reducing Ilvl 135 NMs Evasion.

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Reducing ilvl 135 NMs evasion.
 Cerberus.Warviper
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-05-28 02:31:36
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Hi guys.

Some of the hardest NMs these days are ilvl 135 NMs and the problem is their highly evasive behaviour.

I thought this would be a good place to gather stuff that can help lower the evasion of NMs and just as important:
What stacks and what doesnt stack???

Im gonna start off the list with what i just remember:
Moves that can lower the evasion of the NM:
Infrasonics (blue mage or lizard pet from bst).
Fenrir - Lunar Cry - SMN
Feint - THF
Quickstep (Inflicts Lethargic Daze, which is its own unique Defense Down effect) - DNC
Geo-Torpor - GEO
Distract - RDM

I know that Infrasonics and Geo-Torpor stacks, but I am yet to test if Distact II stacks ontop of those.

Other important spells i forgot?
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By Asura.Shiraiyuki 2015-05-28 02:51:02
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Shiva's Diamond storm, although it's only -25 and doesn't stack with distract.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-05-28 03:19:05
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Feint doesn't stack with Distract. THFs needs to give note when Feint is off so RDM can do new Distract.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-05-28 11:05:19
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Bravura can do an Evasion Down effect as an added effect, I had heard -40 before. Aside from Hunter's Roll, COR can Ice Shot to enhance any Evasion Down effects like Distract.

Most forms of Evasion Down apply as a single debuff and don't stack. Feint, Infrasonics, Distract, Fenrir/Shiva moves, and Bravura share this slot. I believe whichever has higher potency takes priority. Geo-Torpor and Lethargic Daze are their own effects, however.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2015-06-07 16:47:39
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frost, ever bit helps at that level.

torpor is probably most significant so try to JA it if you can keep the luopon alive.
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By FaeQueenCory 2015-06-07 17:02:02
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Shiva's Diamond Dust is better than Fenrir's Lunar Cry, except during a new moon.
But ain't nobody got time to track moon phases.

And 9x out of 10, Diamond Dust will be more potent.

And like Jeanpaul said, it won't stack with Distract.
(Diamond Dust is -25 and Lunar Cry is -31 at new moon)
 
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2015-06-07 17:43:24
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Riverin soup, hunters roll, g horn madrigals, ind acc
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-06-07 18:01:38
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
Riverin soup, hunters roll, g horn madrigals, ind acc

And those help Pets to hit more how?

We not talking about how to increase accuracy.
We talking about how to lower NMs evasion.
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By swaggernaught 2015-06-07 18:15:36
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Cerberus.Warviper said: »
Hi guys.

Some of the hardest NMs these days are ilvl 135 NMs and the problem is their highly evasive behaviour.

I thought this would be a good place to gather stuff that can help lower the evasion of NMs and just as important:
What stacks and what doesnt stack???

Im gonna start off the list with what i just remember:
Moves that can lower the evasion of the NM:
Infrasonics (blue mage or lizard pet from bst).
Fenrir - Lunar Cry - SMN
Feint - THF
Quickstep (Inflicts Lethargic Daze, which is its own unique Defense Down effect) - DNC
Geo-Torpor - GEO
Distract - RDM

I know that Infrasonics and Geo-Torpor stacks, but I am yet to test if Distact II stacks ontop of those.

Other important spells i forgot?

Exenterator lowers eavasion 2
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-06-08 11:29:36
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned is IMPACT. It works surpsiringly well on some 135 NMs with enough MACC from GEOs.

Works well on:
-Behemoth
-Monkey
-Rabbit
-Whale

Forgot how it works:
-Mantis

Doesnt really work on:
- Pixies (At least 2 will absorb Darkness Magic)
- Ig-Alima Demon
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-06-16 08:12:59
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Distract II and Torpor from Geo stacks right?
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 08:15:06
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Cerberus.Warviper said: »
Distract II and Torpor from Geo stacks right?

Correct. GEO buffs, as a general rule, stack with everything.
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-06-16 08:21:04
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If going with 6 people against ilvl 135 content then i wonder what would be the best setup:

PLD, WHM, GEO +
RDM, RNGx2

or
PLD, WHM, GEO +
BRD, RNGx2

or
PLD, WHM, GEO +
COR, RNGx2
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By Nocki 2015-06-17 18:37:53
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None of the above. (Mind you I am heavily biased to magic burst method of killing things, but as far as efficiency goes I think it wins.)
PLD WHM RDM GEO x2 SCH (with 550 JPs)
PLD RDM GEO x2 SCH x2 (without SCHs 550 JP)
PLD WHM RDM GEO SCH x2

OR

PLD WHM GEO COR SMN x2
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2015-06-17 20:11:45
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magic burst to win works well on most of escha.