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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-24 16:26:16
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
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if you have Nyame and Bunzi gear at R0, I don't see any reason to use Ayanmo legs instead of Nyame.

Nyame legs don't have enough haste to cap with no haste on belt.

That is a very good point that I completely forgot about.

This is the problem that I ran into as well. If you don't have Volte Tights (necessary Haste+9), then using Ranked Nyame legs will put you at a haste deficit. The suggestion above to use Sailfi+1 and a DW cape solves the issue if you're /nin, and if you're single wielding, Null Shawl. You'd have to make more sacrifices as /DNC to hit the requisite haste and dw. Ayanmo +2 legs fits nicely there too, but it is far less of an offensive piece than Ranked Nyame. So there are some decisions to make.

Question: If you don't have Volte Tights, which combination of gear is the most optimal spread of stats for either /DNC or /NIN? Assume you have at least R25 Nyame as an option. It doesn't seem like you can fit Null Shawl in any /DNC DW build without going to either Ayanmo+2 legs or something else jank like 2 DW earrings or Haverton Ring. Gazu Bracelets are an option to accommodate the Haste issue which allows Nyame Legs for added DA (but you lose them from not losing Bunzi Hands, so that's a loss too), Reiki+Eabani for Earring for DW but at a -2 DW deficit, then the cape could be Null Shawl but only when /NIN, but even the bracelets are a defensive liability (though helpful for TPB Offhand).

Lacking Volte Tights is a bummer. I suppose if you picked Lehko's Ring, you don't have this problem at all.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-24 16:32:19
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I think the most common advice for /DNC would be to use haste samba. With haste samba you actually need LESS DW than /NIN, not more.

IMO, without volte tights, DW cape with nyame is the best. Then you can pick any accessories you want (cessance, dedition, brutal, etc) with sailfi.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-01-24 16:32:51
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how much DW do you need /dnc if you aren't going to do haste samba.

My understanding of /dnc is that you basically can just stick with the +10 cape if you have haste samba up.

I kind of never use my Reiki Yotai anymore on any job (I'm not actually on brd). So I always have the option of goading belt, sailfi belt +1, sweordfaetels +1, windbuffet belt +1, Cornelia's belt depending on what I need.

Hot take, but you could also make a Linos that has QA + Haste to accomodate the loss of the pants haste.
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By Nariont 2025-01-24 16:33:55
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Theres also ilvl byakkos, but i dont think the additional haste opens anything else up

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how much DW do you need /dnc if you aren't going to do haste samba.

10 more DW without samba(so 21), hence just keeping samba up which just puts you at needing 9 iirc
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-24 16:39:56
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
how much DW do you need /dnc if you aren't going to do haste samba.

21, which is pretty impractical IMO.

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My understanding of /dnc is that you basically can just stick with the +10 cape if you have haste samba up.

Yes, this was my suggestion above. Technically you're 1 over-cap on DW but it's not a big deal (and you can actually make a 9 DW cape by not finishing turning in all the rewards).

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Hot take, but you could also make a Linos that has QA + Haste to accomodate the loss of the pants haste.

That's pretty solid advice TBH.


I think at the end of the day there are a lot of options and they're each only a few % behind each other at most. Make sure you have attack speed capped in some fashion and have nice DT/meva/HP. Beyond that, min-maxing out 1 more STP or 3 more DA here or there isn't going to make a noticeable difference.
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By buttplug 2025-01-24 22:09:03
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Did that awhile back on THF
Needed like 6 Dual Wield
Just made an ambu cap with only 6 DW
Blew a few minds at the time

Use Gerdr Belt + Eabani Earring now though
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By Senria 2025-01-25 02:48:47
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Hello there!
I'm sure this has been answered at least once throughout this thread (and please forgive me if it has), but is there any up-to-date point of reference for what DD BRD without Odyssey/Omen gear should be using in the interim?

Recently came back to this title after 4-5 years away from it, and while I'd love to see what BRD is capable of on the field, tons of equipment from high-end, organized endgame simply isn't available to me at the immediate moment.

Every BRD-focused resource I've come across either assumes its reader has already obtained perfect gear, or completely excludes BRD's DD presence entirely (and I'm assuming the leading post of this thread is woefully out-of-date). Kind-of at a loss as to what I should be aiming for next, outside of magically having v25-30 Nyame and Bunzi equipment straight out of the gate.

The TP/WS sets I'm currently using are below:

TP:
ItemSet 398055

Savage Blade:
ItemSet 398056

As you can see, the Head/Hands/Legs/Feet are identical between my TP and WS sets, as I'm unsure what to use in the interim prior to obtaining Nyame.
Additionally, my Rudra's / Eviceration sets are basically the same as the Savage Blade one, just with a spare Moonlight Ring instead of Sroda, Tauret rather than Naegling, and keeping the Blurred Knife +1 from my TP set as the offhand. There is a lot of room for improvement here.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-25 03:26:34
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I believe the Relic+3 set and Lustratio/+1 abjuration gear (head, hands, feet mainly for Savage, legs for evisceration) are the builds that predate Nyame for Savage Blade, Evisceration, and Rudra's. There's a few ad-hoc pieces like fully ranked Zoar Subligar +1 and Blistering Sallet+1 that have cool offensive stats that you can pursue and mix in if you doing think you'll get Nyame anytime soon (it's double unity campaign so best to get it now). As mentioned above, R15 Sailfi+1 is probably better if you use a DW cape and then maybe Brutal or Cessance Earring for some more double attack/STP for melee. If you're comfortable with your current earring/waist combo, there's the new Null Shawl you can fit in over your JSE cape, which is not too hard of a drop to farm. Ayanmo +2 is good for TP since it has good accuracy and serves well in a hybrid role too. The body and head are especially good, so you're fine there.

There's some other stuff you might get lucky and stumble upon, like Volte tights or spats (or the harness) from Aman Trove, Quadruple attack augments on Chironic Slippers (it's also Dark Matter Augments campaign at the moment), or even a Crepuscular Knife (everyone else but me seems to get one), so maximize your chances to try to get those by doing orbs and Oseem when you can. You can finish TVR and SOA missions to pick up cool scenario rings based on your needs (there's a few cool options to choose from).
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By Asura.Sensarity 2025-02-02 11:12:44
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What are people running for high end TP sets on BRD right now? (with and without Cento)
I've been unsubbed for about 2 years and need a refresher.
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By DaneBlood 2025-02-02 11:33:56
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ItemSet 392621

Pretty much this. potential volte feet
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By Asura.Sensarity 2025-02-02 12:46:11
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DaneBlood said: »
ItemSet 392621

Pretty much this. potential volte feet
Do you not do any acc swaps for cento? Or just use Madrigal?
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By DaneBlood 2025-02-02 12:48:09
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Asura.Sensarity said: »
DaneBlood said: »
ItemSet 392621

Pretty much this. potential volte feet
Do you not do any acc swaps for cento? Or just use Madrigal?
Personally (and im not claiming any kind of leadeship on this) no if Acc becomes and issues where the almost 100% boost to SB is not enough to make up for it. then ill switch offhand instead

or change my food for the event
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By SimonSes 2025-02-02 12:59:39
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DaneBlood said: »
ItemSet 392621

Pretty much this. potential volte feet

Meh.

ItemSet 379785

With Chironic legs and feet with 3%QA as an option if you don't need PDT/DT and accuracy.

Ofc /DNC and haste samba
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2025-02-02 13:01:57
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I just pianissimo an extra Madrigal on myself if I need some more acc like 95% of the time.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-02-02 19:18:13
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SimonSes said: »
DaneBlood said: »
ItemSet 392621

Pretty much this. potential volte feet

Meh.

ItemSet 379785

With Chironic legs and feet with 3%QA as an option if you don't need PDT/DT and accuracy.

Ofc /DNC and haste samba

Interesting swaps. Overall (assuming Nyame R30):
TA+2%, DA+17%, STP-20, in terms of TP stats, ofc there are other defensive differences etc.

I think it might be slightly ahead in terms of TP/round, though considering the 9% QA in the build I'm a bit skeptical of the value of adding a bunch of DA (it's discounted by a little over 10%)

In the end I think it's more-or-less a wash. The thing that I really don't like, personally, is /DNC and haste samba. If it's helping others I think it's a worthwhile sacrifice, but if it's just for myself I really dislike stopping every 90 seconds and losing 350 TP to keep myself attack speed capped. Especially because it always seems to need to be refreshed at the worst time. Or you can pre-cast it before it wears off which just means wasting that 350 TP a bit more often than every 90 seconds. Finally, I find that in stuff like segments or dynamis, this problem is worse because sometimes you'll be moving between pulls during that 90s, meaning you really might get like...30 seconds of use out of a single Haste Samba before needing to do another one.
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By SimonSes 2025-02-03 02:53:14
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Interesting swaps. Overall (assuming Nyame R30):
TA+2%, DA+17%, STP-20, in terms of TP stats, ofc there are other defensive differences etc.

I think it might be slightly ahead in terms of TP/round, though considering the 9% QA in the build I'm a bit skeptical of the value of adding a bunch of DA (it's discounted by a little over 10%)

In the end I think it's more-or-less a wash. The thing that I really don't like, personally, is /DNC and haste samba. If it's helping others I think it's a worthwhile sacrifice, but if it's just for myself I really dislike stopping every 90 seconds and losing 350 TP to keep myself attack speed capped. Especially because it always seems to need to be refreshed at the worst time. Or you can pre-cast it before it wears off which just means wasting that 350 TP a bit more often than every 90 seconds. Finally, I find that in stuff like segments or dynamis, this problem is worse because sometimes you'll be moving between pulls during that 90s, meaning you really might get like...30 seconds of use out of a single Haste Samba before needing to do another one.

You completely missing the fact that you get far more base TP with 24%DW than 36%DW. Also this /NIN set has slightly uncapped haste (25% gear haste)

For curiosity sake, I checked this in sim (I haven't before)

/NIN set (stp cape, telos, reiki, volte) Naegling/Cento Savage: ~10350DPS
/DNC with haste samba same set as /NIN: ~10940 DPS
/DNC with haste samba and my set from above: ~11275 DPS
and I used R25 Nyame

I think +9%dps is worth doing haste samba, especially that without haste samba /NIN is only 3% ahead, so you are not even losing much before you apply haste samba in the most convenient moment.

EDIT it didn't seems right so I double checked and at some point I must have clicked something. Fixed all numbers.

Also I know you mentioned defensive stats difference, but I think it's important to actually list it here, because +93 meva at cost of only 2%PDT is quite substantial.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-02-03 05:49:33
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I hadn't run it through the sim but your post made me curious so I did the same, our results are fairly similar but also considering what I mentioned above about the PITA of re-apply Haste Samba, I stand by my opinion.

My set, /NIN: 10418 DPS
Your set, /DNC, No samba: 10008 DPS
Your set, /DNC, Samba: 11402 DPS

AKA if you're not going to use Samba, /DNC and your set is worse. I prefer not to use Samba in most content because it's obnoxious and the timing is terrible in real-life, not represented by the sim (does it even include the JA forced wait?) and it's very difficult to practically simulate Haste Samba wearing off right at the end of a mob/pack, or putting samba up to fight 2 mobs, then walk for 30 seconds. Other things like what if you finish a mob with a WS, then haste samba wears off? You need to start the next mob, hit it for 1-2 attack rounds, then either interrupt your auto-attacks to put samba back up or wait until 1350+ TP and then Samba before your WS, which means you're well under delay cap for that entire mob.

There are a lot of very frustrating aspects of keeping Haste Samba up on /DNC, none of which show up in a sim.
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By SimonSes 2025-02-03 06:04:52
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
which means you're well under delay cap for that entire mob.

Still only 3% behind /nin without haste samba, so you don't lose that much in such scenario. You can often reapply Samba between packs or like you said before WS. Anyway it's more event specific imo. You keep mentioning segments farming scenario. I was thinking more about Sortie scenario (ofc not 9/9 bosses because then you are /drk anyway). You could argue in Sortie you can have COR/DNC doing haste samba for you and then the most optimal is BRD/NIN without any DW items, but in case none else is /dnc, I would say brd/dnc is best.
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By Asura.Asheshila 2025-02-11 19:27:59
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Does Naegling beat out R15 Carnwenhan like should I even bother augmenting it?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-02-11 19:30:26
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Asura.Asheshila said: »
Does Naegling beat out R15 Carnwenhan like should I even bother augmenting it?

Yes, unless the mob is resistant to slashing and/or weak to piercing.

Even if you never melee with Carn (spoiler: you will in endgame) you should still R15 it because it's BiS for macc (and enhances duration of your debuffs) so it will be in all your debuffing sets.
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By meylee 2025-02-23 12:36:18
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So working on my DPS brd atm. Finally caved and got the TP dagger. Was hoping i could get away with just using carn for dps but i see nag will always win now. always /dnc. I see that /nin is better if not maintaining haste samba, but giving up box steps and emergency heals is worth the 3% dps to me.

current build is as follows, suggestions? Ideally trying to copy the above build but ashera's aludes me... gotten doubles of every other omen body in trove but not one asheras.

range = "Linos", -- QA +3%
head = "Blistering Sallet +1", -- I have bunzi but its R0, dont think it beats blistering till R20?
body = "Nyame mail", --R0, swap for ambu or maybe relic +3 body?
--body = "Ashera Harness", swap when obtained
hands = "Bunzi's Gloves", --R0
neck = "Bard's Charm +2",
ear1 = "Telos Earring",
ear2 = "Eabani Earring",
ring1 = "Chirich Ring +1", --Thinking of swaping ot Moonlight for the DT but so expensive
ring2 = "Chirich Ring +1",
back = gear.melee_jse_back, --DW +10 , swap to +10 STP when Reiki obtained
waist = "Sailfi belt +1", -- Replace with Reiki Yotai
--waist = "Reiki Yotai", -- when obtained, DW +7
legs = "Volte tights",
feet = "Volte spats",
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2025-02-23 13:00:06
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meylee said: »
So working on my DPS brd atm. Finally caved and got the TP dagger. Was hoping i could get away with just using carn for dps but i see nag will always win now. always /dnc. I see that /nin is better if not maintaining haste samba, but giving up box steps and emergency heals is worth the 3% dps to me.

current build is as follows, suggestions? Ideally trying to copy the above build but ashera's aludes me... gotten doubles of every other omen body in trove but not one asheras.

range = "Linos", -- QA +3%
head = "Blistering Sallet +1", -- I have bunzi but its R0, dont think it beats blistering till R20?
body = "Nyame mail", --R0, swap for ambu or maybe relic +3 body?
--body = "Ashera Harness", swap when obtained
hands = "Bunzi's Gloves", --R0
neck = "Bard's Charm +2",
ear1 = "Telos Earring",
ear2 = "Eabani Earring",
ring1 = "Chirich Ring +1", --Thinking of swaping ot Moonlight for the DT but so expensive
ring2 = "Chirich Ring +1",
back = gear.melee_jse_back, --DW +10 , swap to +10 STP when Reiki obtained
waist = "Sailfi belt +1", -- Replace with Reiki Yotai
--waist = "Reiki Yotai", -- when obtained, DW +7
legs = "Volte tights",
feet = "Volte spats",

Ayanmo Head and Body, or Volte Body if you have it would be my swaps.
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By Aylee515 2025-02-23 13:17:57
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Body I get but Ayanna head over the sallet? Sadly no volte body either. Just grinding gin at this point lol
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By Nariont 2025-02-23 13:21:06
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6 STP will be better than 3% DA iirc, acc is also better unless its R15 already
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By Felgarr 2025-02-23 13:25:41
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How many augmented Linos should a Bard have? Someone told me that they have 6....but let's assume we have infinite stones and inventory space?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-23 13:36:02
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Felgarr said: »
How augmented Linos should a Bard have? Someone told me that have 6....but let's assume we have infinite stones and inventory space?

You can have as many as you want, just depends on what you're building for.

-Melee/TP QA STP ACC
-General WS (Rudra's, Ruthless, Savage) STR/WS
-Fast Cast*
-Aeolian Edge*
-Mordant Rime
-Waltz Potency*
-Cure Potency (I don't have one of these, but you could if you wanted)
-Critical Hit Damage (Evisceration, super minmaxing here, might not be necessary)

* = Extra ones that I made, but YMMV
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By Aylee515 2025-02-23 15:59:37
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6 STP will be better than 3% DA iirc, acc is also better unless its R15 already

Yeah salllet is R15, also nayme feet are r15 if that matters
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-02-23 16:05:50
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Felgarr said: »
How augmented Linos should a Bard have? Someone told me that have 6....but let's assume we have infinite stones and inventory space?

You can have as many as you want, just depends on what you're building for.

-Melee/TP QA STP ACC
-General WS (Rudra's, Ruthless, Savage) STR/WS
-Fast Cast*
-Aeolian Edge*
-Mordant Rime
-Waltz Potency*
-Cure Potency (I don't have one of these, but you could if you wanted)
-Critical Hit Damage (Evisceration, super minmaxing here, might not be necessary)

* = Extra ones that I made, but YMMV

My general WS one is STR + DEX/WS (8 vs 6 + 6) and covers all, including Mordant. So my brd makes due with 4. Another useful, but not needed one is Melee Haste which is a variant of the melee/TP one above QA/Haste/Acc. I use it for DT oriented sets where I can't use volte tights, and I don't want ot make up the haste elsewhere.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-02-23 17:40:44
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My Linos':

TP: 18 Acc (RIP), 4 STP, 3 Quad
Idle: 6 INT/MND, 15 Meva, Regen +2 (this used to be evasion... but meh and tossed Nibiru Harp)
FC: 8 INT, 20 Macc, 5 Fast Cast (rip 6)
Aeolian: 8 INT, 18 MAB, 3 WSD
WS: 6 STR/DEX, 20 Atk, 3 WSD
PDL(Aminon): 30 Save TP, 15 Acc/Atk, 3 WSD
Evis: 8 DEX, 20 Atk, 3 Crit Rate (could swap to Crit DMG)

Used to have 2 WS ones, one CHR/STR for Mordant/Savage and one 8 DEX for other dagger WS's.. but wanted to cut one out

I think its easy enough to cap out waltz potency without a Linos? But these days i'm /DRK 99% of the time so I dont bother to have one.

If you /WHM often a Cure Pot. one, Conserve MP one, and Quick Cast one could come in handy (assuming you have infinite inventory)

As I mentioned earlier with my Idle one, if you wanted to do Sheol C pulling/tanking I could see having a Evasion/AGI Linos as well.
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