It's difficult to know the actual fTP when you don't know the base damage, but I do believe I worked out damage multiplier scaling on L-1 monsters for all the BPs that I thought might be useful shortly after the update that made them scale. I have no idea where I posted it. It was either on BG or in this thread.
Based on magic BPs, I'd expect three setpoints (0, 1500, and 3000 TP).
This post and the one before it:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/46440/the-6th-ministrys-secret-a-summoners-guide-v2/64/#3189151
The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide (v2)
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The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide (v2)
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Varar Rings might be better than Thurandaut Rings anyway. Yeah, I don't use Thurandaut Ring anymore. 2x Varar+1 all the way - for me anyway. I find the suggested staves a bit off - Bolelabunga and Keraunos, as they offer nothing to pet verses the JSE, Gridarvor.
What staff do you use and why? :) Thanks :) Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Varar Rings might be better than Thurandaut Rings anyway. I agree, especially given you can only have one SoA ring at a time and most people have multiple jobs. I'm wondering if there is a better ring than the Varar Ring and is also practical to get (e.g. not like the SoA rings, etc). Asura.Avallon said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Varar Rings might be better than Thurandaut Rings anyway. Yeah, I don't use Thurandaut Ring anymore. 2x Varar+1 all the way - for me anyway. WOW!!!! 2x Varar +1?! On Ragnarok they're 60M and on some servers ever higher. Well, if Summoner is your main job and you don't have many jobs. I just can't justify the 118M extra gil for the little bit of improvement, but, hey, that's me, the old miser. ;) This is my current summoning magic skill build:
Main: Espiritus (B) - 15 skill (equivalent to Exemplar) Sub: Vox Trip - 3 skill Range/Ammo: No skill available, except perhaps from Rune Bows with the shitty FoV augment system? - Checked and skill was never reported in the ranged slot Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) Neck: Incanter's (10 skill) Ear1: Andoaa (5 skill) Ear2: Summoning (3 skill) Body: Apogee +1 (20 skill) Hands: Lamassu +1 (22 skill) Ring1: Evoker's (10 skill) Ring2: Globidonta (5 skill) - Should replace with Stikini +1 (8 skill) Back: Conveyance (10+5 skill) Waist: Kobo Obi (8 skill) Legs: Beckoner's +1 (20 skill) Feet: Marduk +1 (11 skill) - Should replace with Apogee +1 D-path (20 skill) So I see a possible +12 skill, which would bring me to 641. Is that the true cap? So i'm not sure if its me or something is wrong, i can't see my avatar once engaged into a Geas Fate NM fight. Re-summoning it would would give me visual but once i engage on avatar, my avatar goes invisible? Just finishing testing in t3/t4 nm in reisenjima.
Is there a fix to this? Other than reinstalling whole ffxi itself? Or has anyone encounter this? Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) loldarkrone said: » So i'm not sure if its me or something is wrong, i can't see my avatar once engaged into a Geas Fate NM fight. Re-summoning it would would give me visual but once i engage on avatar, my avatar goes invisible? Just finishing testing in t3/t4 nm in reisenjima. Is there a fix to this? Other than reinstalling whole ffxi itself? Or has anyone encounter this? This happens to me on Unity NMs as well. If there's a fix I'd love to hear it too! The fix is "don't use the visiblefavor windower plugin."
Asura.Frod said: » The fix is "don't use the visiblefavor windower plugin." Well it's obviously not as I'm not using it. Asura.Frod said: » The fix is "don't use the visiblefavor windower plugin." Seems to have fixed it. thank you! Lakshmi.Byrth said: » This is my current summoning magic skill build: Main: Espiritus (B) - 15 skill (equivalent to Exemplar) Sub: Vox Trip - 3 skill Range/Ammo: No skill available, except perhaps from Rune Bows with the shitty FoV augment system? - Checked and skill was never reported in the ranged slot Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) Neck: Incanter's (10 skill) Ear1: Andoaa (5 skill) Ear2: Summoning (3 skill) Body: Apogee +1 (20 skill) Hands: Lamassu +1 (22 skill) Ring1: Evoker's (10 skill) Ring2: Globidonta (5 skill) - Should replace with Stikini +1 (8 skill) Back: Conveyance (10+5 skill) Waist: Kobo Obi (8 skill) Legs: Beckoner's +1 (20 skill) Feet: Marduk +1 (11 skill) - Should replace with Apogee +1 D-path (20 skill) So I see a possible +12 skill, which would bring me to 641. Is that the true cap? So far as I know there is no known Summoning Magic skill cap nor does there seem to be hard data on the upper maximum tiers of Favor. Asura.Avallon said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » This is my current summoning magic skill build: Main: Espiritus (B) - 15 skill (equivalent to Exemplar) Sub: Vox Trip - 3 skill Range/Ammo: No skill available, except perhaps from Rune Bows with the shitty FoV augment system? - Checked and skill was never reported in the ranged slot Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) Neck: Incanter's (10 skill) Ear1: Andoaa (5 skill) Ear2: Summoning (3 skill) Body: Apogee +1 (20 skill) Hands: Lamassu +1 (22 skill) Ring1: Evoker's (10 skill) Ring2: Globidonta (5 skill) - Should replace with Stikini +1 (8 skill) Back: Conveyance (10+5 skill) Waist: Kobo Obi (8 skill) Legs: Beckoner's +1 (20 skill) Feet: Marduk +1 (11 skill) - Should replace with Apogee +1 D-path (20 skill) So I see a possible +12 skill, which would bring me to 641. Is that the true cap? So far as I know there is no known Summoning Magic skill cap nor does there seem to be hard data on the upper maximum tiers of Favor. I believe he meant is there any other gear to bring his skill higher. I'm not certain about your augment skill theory so I didn't respond, but I believe you've reached the cap(after you get those shoes). Odin.Warusha said: » Asura.Avallon said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » This is my current summoning magic skill build: Main: Espiritus (B) - 15 skill (equivalent to Exemplar) Sub: Vox Trip - 3 skill Range/Ammo: No skill available, except perhaps from Rune Bows with the shitty FoV augment system? - Checked and skill was never reported in the ranged slot Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) Neck: Incanter's (10 skill) Ear1: Andoaa (5 skill) Ear2: Summoning (3 skill) Body: Apogee +1 (20 skill) Hands: Lamassu +1 (22 skill) Ring1: Evoker's (10 skill) Ring2: Globidonta (5 skill) - Should replace with Stikini +1 (8 skill) Back: Conveyance (10+5 skill) Waist: Kobo Obi (8 skill) Legs: Beckoner's +1 (20 skill) Feet: Marduk +1 (11 skill) - Should replace with Apogee +1 D-path (20 skill) So I see a possible +12 skill, which would bring me to 641. Is that the true cap? So far as I know there is no known Summoning Magic skill cap nor does there seem to be hard data on the upper maximum tiers of Favor. I believe he meant is there any other gear to bring his skill higher. I'm not certain about your augment skill theory so I didn't respond, but I believe you've reached the cap(after you get those shoes). Literal cap based on all currently available gear or maximum cap as established by SE? If the obvious cap for summoning magic is based on the pieces that are BiS for each slot then that's one thing, but I'd be curious to know if there is an actual hard cap for the skill. Asura.Avallon said: » Odin.Warusha said: » Asura.Avallon said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » This is my current summoning magic skill build: Main: Espiritus (B) - 15 skill (equivalent to Exemplar) Sub: Vox Trip - 3 skill Range/Ammo: No skill available, except perhaps from Rune Bows with the shitty FoV augment system? - Checked and skill was never reported in the ranged slot Head: Convoker +1 (19 skill) Neck: Incanter's (10 skill) Ear1: Andoaa (5 skill) Ear2: Summoning (3 skill) Body: Apogee +1 (20 skill) Hands: Lamassu +1 (22 skill) Ring1: Evoker's (10 skill) Ring2: Globidonta (5 skill) - Should replace with Stikini +1 (8 skill) Back: Conveyance (10+5 skill) Waist: Kobo Obi (8 skill) Legs: Beckoner's +1 (20 skill) Feet: Marduk +1 (11 skill) - Should replace with Apogee +1 D-path (20 skill) So I see a possible +12 skill, which would bring me to 641. Is that the true cap? So far as I know there is no known Summoning Magic skill cap nor does there seem to be hard data on the upper maximum tiers of Favor. I believe he meant is there any other gear to bring his skill higher. I'm not certain about your augment skill theory so I didn't respond, but I believe you've reached the cap(after you get those shoes). Literal cap based on all currently available gear or maximum cap as established by SE? If the obvious cap for summoning magic is based on the pieces that are BiS for each slot then that's one thing, but I'd be curious to know if there is an actual hard cap for the skill. SE said siphon caps at 700 skill (impossible to reach and +siphon gear is better). I believe Alexander caps at 600/60s. There's no word on acc bonus or ward duration to pacts having a cap. Favor's current limit is 575+horn+gift, with -8s, this leaves us short of the promised 10s pact timer reduction. Conveyance is 8+5, not 10+5 I got a 61 second Alexander the 3 times I tried last night. I also verified that Conduit JPs don't affect its duration.
The next predicted Favor tier would have been 638~640 skill. It should now be possible to rule it out with the gear I listed above, but if you're even missing Stikini Ring +1 you wouldn't really be able to conclude anything. Now, I do seem to remember proclamations that it didn't exist even back before AF3+3 came out, which should have been impossible and is what brought me here. I thought I was missing some large source of summoning magic skill. Am I? If so, what is it? loldarkrone said: » So still new to SMN, was scrolling back a few pages as well as front page, not really any recent updated GearSet except comparing SMN cost to other jobs and in depth math for smn, and currently viewing through phone. SO just curious to see what GearSet i should be aiming for Avatar.Engage and BP.Delay/PreCast set. So i get a general idea what to aim for. Main goal is just gearing SMN for aeonic clearing. But was wondering what avatar.melee set to aim for, since it's already been argue'd/stated in most recent pages what B.Pact Rage set is ideal. Thanks in advance. ItemSet 350520 Both Apogee D Helios Gloves: Pet: Accuracy +27 DA +8 Haste +4% Campestres's Cape: Evasion +20 Magic Evasion +20, Pet: Accuracy +30 Attack +20 Haste +10% This is what I use when TP isn't important, AoEs are deadly, soloing without a trust tank, etc.: ItemSet 350521 Artsieq Cuffs C Campestres's Cape: same but with Regen instead of Haste In both sets, I swap Fucho-no-Obi at low MP and obviously swap horns when I want better Favor tiers. But like others have said, engaged sets are probably not something to stress over if you just want SMN for Aeonic clears. Just started working on my SMN so not used to pet augments.
Was augmenting Merlinic Hands with Taupe Stones ended up with a funny looking results, is this normal?  Skies said: » Just started working on my SMN so not used to pet augments. Was augmenting Merlinic Hands with Taupe Stones ended up with a funny looking results, is this normal? Yes, there's a sort of double mab/macc augment you can get. the cap for both on that is 15+25 on each. Hello guys
is still Voodood Slacks the best piece for smn/BP on leg slot still? Quetzalcoatl.Chalek said: » Hello guys is still Voodood Slacks the best piece for smn/BP on leg slot still? D path legs for physical. Magic path for merit pacts that are 5/5 merited. Enticer's pants are better if you don't have +1
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I just got 619 skill finally. Am I supposed to do my preBloodpacts in convoker's horn +3 or beckoner's horn +1 assuming reduction is capped for both tier I and II?
 You only need 512 skill and Beckoner's Horn +1 in your precast set. The rest can be -Enmity or whatever you want. I'm thinking of changing my free slots to BP Damage to compensate for midcast lag in layered areas.
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I am working on a WoC pop set, And Warder of Faith is next on my list. I generally do these types of things with a mele, but my SMN has 1550 JP and I figured maybe if a nabbed a few more I could trim off a party during the CP event coming up. Over the last few days, I have gone through 2 entire CP rings and a few Trizek charges and haven't seen a pop. I understand it could simply be bum luck, but figured I'd check anyway. Any know if it's impossible/possible to get a warder pop on an Avatar kill?
Avatar kills do pop.
Oneshots from avatars do pop. Anyone know where i can donwload a spreed shett for smn?
a good one first time im going to use this I don't think a SMN one exists because we don't have the detail level of Avatar mechanics/stats/numbers like we do on the mele side. I could be wrong...and in which case someone will point you there...but I am pretty sure it does not exist.
Leviathan.Sidra said: » I have gone through 2 entire CP rings and a few Trizek charges and haven't seen a pop. Do you have any "Rare Enemy" Vorseals? They help. Quetzalcoatl.Chalek said: » Anyone know where i can donwload a spreed shett for smn? a good one first time im going to use this There's a calculator for magic pacts and a calculator for 3 hit physical pacts in this thread. |
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