The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide (v2)

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 Asura.Pergatory
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By Asura.Pergatory 2019-07-12 10:05:46
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I was looking for uses for my extra Apogee Crown now that path A is useless, and I have to admit I'd never really noticed path D as a Pet:DT option. This made me realize my Pet:DT set is woefully out of date.

I took a shot at revamping it, and I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. Dropping Selenian Cap makes me a lot more comfortable using this set more frequently.

I'm curious if I overlooked anything else for the set, anyone got any suggestions?

ItemSet 321263
The Moonshade should be Cath Palug Earring but it's not available to link yet.
Apogee are both path D.
Telchine are Pet:DT-4%, Pet:Regen+3, Pet:M.Eva+20
Cape has Pet:DT-5%

Totals:
Perp -15
Refresh +8
Pet:DT -32%
Pet:Regen +17

Include avatars native PDT2 -50% plus DT -7% from Stout Servant, and this should result in PDT -87.5% (capped) and MDT at -39%.
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By Asura.Butmunch 2019-07-16 23:21:45
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ItemSet 367727


i Wanted to ask this set has 55% pet DA befor AM3 is even added to it could this work as a good volt BP set?
head and feet BPD7 att or acc +30 and pat DA7
legs path D
the ring is the new cait sith ring
back pet acc/att
and Neck R25

(R15 Nirvana for the acc)
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By Wotasu 2019-07-17 01:51:23
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Asura.Butmunch said: »
ItemSet 367727


i Wanted to ask this set has 55% pet DA befor AM3 is even added to it could this work as a good volt BP set?
head and feet BPD7 att or acc +30 and pat DA7
legs path D
the ring is the new cait sith ring
back pet acc/att
and Neck R25

(R15 Nirvana for the acc)

It works w/o AM3 up. But I think you should start changing Dbl+ gear for some BP+ gear. Mainly AF+3 Body, Apogee head or Feet, and maybe Merlinic Gloves with a BP+10 & Pet: Atk

I use this during AM3 and most times Im top parse or 1/3rd of the parse in my ls or pugs.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-07-17 19:04:01
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Asura.Butmunch said: »
ItemSet 367727


i Wanted to ask this set has 55% pet DA befor AM3 is even added to it could this work as a good volt BP set?
head and feet BPD7 att or acc +30 and pat DA7
legs path D
the ring is the new cait sith ring
back pet acc/att
and Neck R25

(R15 Nirvana for the acc)


Use pergatory's calculator. Keep a consideration for acc total and what content you do, you may need to swap to reach higher amounts.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-08 18:28:27
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What is the absolute lowest effort -30 pact set I can make

(master smn)-10 + Favor + this, gets me under 30 yeah?
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By Asura.Toralin 2019-08-08 18:35:15
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How about the new ring from caitsith on the DA build?

Edit didn’t noticed his footnote
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By Pantafernando 2019-08-08 19:26:55
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
What is the absolute lowest effort -30 pact set I can make

(master smn)-10 + Favor + this, gets me under 30 yeah?
ItemSet 368035

BPI 8
BPII 9
BPIII 10
BP total 27s
+ avatar favor should get below 30 but not instantly.

Depending how spending gil is on your effort list, i would look for some baayami pieces. If you arent planning on using empy hat, accord hat +1 if available
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-08 19:40:22
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According to BG it takes 12 seconds to get -4, that's plenty adequate for buffing and positioning in ambuscade pre first mew.

Gil obviously is no concern, but space and ability to sell it back is kinda irritating. Need to set up official loan service.

So the question becomes; How much lower can I get it, while still within the constraints of, no/minimal effort.
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By Pantafernando 2019-08-08 20:59:27
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Gear wise, 30s is the min/cap.

The other 9 will come with some effort like empy head and some skill.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-08 21:11:43
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Yeah, but I can't get the full 15 II!
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By Pantafernando 2019-08-08 21:22:42
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With master, youre set already gave you the max it can drop aside favor enhancement (skill and empy hat).

Adding more BPII wont drop it any further.

Edit the current one
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By Asura.Frod 2019-08-09 06:16:53
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
What is the absolute lowest effort -30 pact set I can make

(master smn)-10 + Favor + this, gets me under 30 yeah?
ItemSet 368035

Job master, sancus sachet, baayami hands and legs. Beckoner's horn +1. Fill the rest of the slots with + skill until you hit at least 513 skill. That caps you at the normal 22s favor recast. to hit 21s requires much higher skill.

breakdown.
bpI caps at 15.
bpII caps at 15.
Job master gifts total 10 and can replace either of the previous categories, but the overall cap there is still -30.
the two baayami cap bpI and sancus gives you enough bpII to bring you up to 20 needed to cap with gifts at 30.

The last 10 to bring you past 30 is entirely from favor, which has 3 aspects to it. Skill total, +favor gear/gifts, and charge up mechanic.
To hit 22s recast you need 513 skill, the +1 gift and beckoner's horn+1's +3.
to hit 21s recast you need 670 skill, the gift and beck+1.

20s recast is currently impossible. It's assumed it will come with empy 119 +2/3 reforging.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-09 10:36:59
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I feel like you missed the name of the set lol. and all the cuffs were sold out yesterday QQ
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By Asura.Frod 2019-08-09 11:50:22
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I feel like you missed the name of the set lol.
Baayami is no effort. I was detailing what he needs. 513 skill plus 4 pieces of gear is stupid easy and should be considered the minimum effort for a master smn. He's making it more difficult for himself by not using baayami.
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By Tarage 2019-08-09 13:01:55
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It's Eiryl, he's not hurting for gil, that would just cut into his profits...
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-09 15:02:51
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Can't buy what isn't for sale lol. And I ain't crafting it.

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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-08 18:28:27

What is the absolute lowest effort -30 pact set I can make

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all the cuffs were sold out yesterday
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By Tarage 2019-08-09 16:38:34
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How horrible. You won't be able to spam Ambuscade for money this month. Why, you'll be homeless tomorrow! Boo hoo.
 
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By Asura.Frod 2019-08-09 16:58:38
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Can't buy what isn't for sale lol. And I ain't crafting it.

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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-08 18:28:27

What is the absolute lowest effort -30 pact set I can make

Asura.Eiryl said: »
all the cuffs were sold out yesterday


You keep posting but all i see are excuses for you being ***. If you took the effort you made in terribad posting and put it toward gearing your smn, it might be useable.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-09 17:43:25
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I mean. (57, unsealed, btw)

You guys come up with these narratives. I just needed an answer. So like, we could go ahead and delete most of this page tbh.
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By Bismarck.Casnik 2019-08-09 19:27:18
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any recommendations on soloing CP? Locations/Trust Set up/???

Trying to work on my noob SMN during CP event
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By Pantafernando 2019-08-09 20:44:55
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Bismarck.Casnik said: »
any recommendations on soloing CP? Locations/Trust Set up/???

Trying to work on my noob SMN during CP event

With good gear you could one shot mobs in reisenjima with ifrits flaming crush.

Or cleave with thunderspark in escha zones.

Ambuscade can also give some quick jps while still grabbing hallmarks gallantries
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By Tarage 2019-09-12 03:21:44
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So thanks to Frod's... "gentle" prompting, I am re-evaluating Atomos's usefulness. It had been my understanding back in the day that Atomos was useless, so I didn't even bother making a macro/set for it. I'm now learning this isn't the case? Can someone help me catch up on what Atomos is good for and the situations you'd use him? Also what gear would best work with his unique ability.

Thanks.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-09-12 07:38:40
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Tarage said: »
So thanks to Frod's... "gentle" prompting, I am re-evaluating Atomos's usefulness. It had been my understanding back in the day that Atomos was useless, so I didn't even bother making a macro/set for it. I'm now learning this isn't the case? Can someone help me catch up on what Atomos is good for and the situations you'd use him? Also what gear would best work with his unique ability.

Thanks.

The only thing you need for atomos is an 80/10 fastcast/quickcast set.

As for uses, my biggest go-to are the second tier dynamis divergence bosses, but anything that has a good self buff that your party members would appreciate is good.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2019-09-12 11:05:45
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Even with capped fast cast, Atomos is too slow to use in most situations. By the time you finish using him, the buff you stole has often already been re-applied. (Example: Try keeping Glassy Gorger's defense buff down with Atomos, it's almost impossible most of the time.)

Stolen buffs aren't something you can really rely on to save the party either, as they usually won't be up 100% of the time, so odds are you built your party up with the assumption of not having the stolen buff, making it unnecessary. This makes stealing defensive buffs generally not that great, and enemies with useful offensive buffs are pretty limited. (Belphegor can be pretty hilarious, though, if you let him use his MAB buff a bunch of times before stealing it.)

For the most part, the only time I'd consider using Atomos is when I'm acting in a purely support role, and Dynamis[D] is really the only time I can think of where that's true. The rest of the time, the group is better served by just continuing to pump out damage.
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By Draylo 2019-09-12 22:45:22
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Why is tinypic killing all the nice pictures!?
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2019-09-25 11:49:01
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Does the new Caitsith Crown have any place in BP set? Not sure how it contends with a capped helios on physical...perhaps Flaming Crush?
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