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FINAL FANTASY Record Keeper
Bahamut.Ravael
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 13638
By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-02 02:26:06
Just did the latest Nightmare dungeon and... it was way easier than I thought it'd be. I'm hurting from all the diaga spells I created and honed, but the damage was worth it. Penelo's Intercession is amazing for that fight, so for once I'm glad I pulled on that lucky banner.
Ragnarok.Raenil
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-02 02:47:45
Noel being released in the next jp 13-2 event o/ 5-hit Full Breakdown BSB. Sweet baby RNGesus.
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By Pantafernando 2016-06-02 04:03:58
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »Ultimate+ fights are forcing me to use very specific setups and thus I create things I may not otherwise and spending too many orbs for honing, might run out at this rate :/ I like the challenge though, frustrating at times but satisfactory.
There is the "exploit" with Ultimate+ fights, the "hit and run". If you enter the stage, hit the mob then flee, you keep your SB gauge. As the fight costs 1 stamina, its not expensive to repeat that till you can build 3 SB charges for everyone, what imo makes everything easier.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-02 04:25:25
I don't even try the Ultimate fights anymore. I usually get hardcore rekt, even if I manage a win on the first much less the +. Not even trying the Nightmare stuff yet. Sorry I don't like using cheap combos to pull off a win, I shouldn't have to. However if I had more 5 star abilities they would potentially be possible, just usually lose HP too fast in them though.
Server: Ultros
Game: FFXIV
Posts: 2204
By Ciri Zireael 2016-06-02 09:57:11
Sorry I don't like using cheap combos to pull off a win
Nightmare bosses are all based around gimmicks so you better get used to it.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-02 09:57:29
Sorry I don't like using cheap combos to pull off a win
Nightmare bosses are all based around gimmicks so you better get used to it. Meh.
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2011
By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2016-06-02 14:08:36
I don't even try the Ultimate fights anymore. I usually get hardcore rekt, even if I manage a win on the first much less the +. Not even trying the Nightmare stuff yet. Sorry I don't like using cheap combos to pull off a win, I shouldn't have to. However if I had more 5 star abilities they would potentially be possible, just usually lose HP too fast in them though.
You can do the Ultimate+ battles without the hit-and-run tactic, it's just a little harder
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2011
By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2016-06-02 15:15:11
HOLY *** Ultimate Seymour dropped a 6* black orb. Time to farm ultimate dungeons!
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 19647
By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-06-02 18:52:05
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/4m6kfk/mathcraft_atkdmg_rms_vs_ace_strikerbattleforged/
some new math for RMs. basically it's as i've been saying, LB charge RMs are a waste now that we have access to Shout
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5381
By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-06-02 20:08:57
So it's better to use attack RMs?
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Game: FFXI
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-06-02 20:21:55
+20% dmg ones. one eyed general, heroic stance, pride of the red barons, etc
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-06-02 20:28:36
Valefor.Prothescar said: »+20% dmg ones. one eyed general, heroic stance, pride of the red barons, etc Damn that means I need to farm some more. Wait what about if we use shout and HoTE?
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-06-02 20:29:54
only makes 20% better unless you're capping at 9999 already which is unlikely on U/U+ for most SSBs
By Draylo 2016-06-02 22:40:47
Why is shantotto given 4 star mnk abilities? lol
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1388
By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2016-06-02 23:13:09
Why is shantotto given 4 star mnk abilities? lol
Because tarutarus are just awesome like that.
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5381
By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-06-03 00:22:44
What buffs attack more unyielding fist or shout?
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 19647
By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-06-03 00:50:26
both the same
Forum Moderator
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-03 05:02:54
But that FFXI DUngeon set though!
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1901
By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2016-06-03 07:25:15
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »Wait what about if we use shout and HoTE? Anything over attack soft cap is generally a 10% increase in damage due to the way it gets diminished.
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-06-03 07:47:58
For pure damage, +20% may be better than AS/BF but there are so many of them that are mainly used for their additional effects even if they also do considerable damage. Why would I use +20% sword damage on Beatrix instead of AS/BF when I am using hers for the magic blink? AS/BF can't be called a waste outright just because of Shout or w/e attack boost.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-06-03 10:17:50
Well obviously, you wouldn't use a 20% RM on someone you're using for buffing or debuffing since damage output isn't their primary focus, comparing apples to oranges.
Beatrix is a bad example though as it's extremely dubious as to whether that extra couple turns you save building magic blinks during the course of a fight outweighs the time shaved off the end phases of the fight by dealing more damage. A more applicable example of something like Battleforged vs 20% would be someone like Agrias, or as a more estranged example Balthier who either wouldn't need the extra 20% or would want to be able to fire off 2 or more consecutive SSBs as quickly as possible to take advantage of Imperil status.
By fillerbunny9 2016-06-03 11:01:32
so that math basically seems to indicate that when you are getting ~515+ attack that you pull ahead with higher attack RMs instead of Battleforged etc. is that counting shout, or pre-shout, because I seem to be lucky to get ~320 attack from the menu screens.
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-06-03 12:40:55
ugh..Should i use 8000 gysahl for flame cloak? only other fire resist accessories I have are flame ring and gigas armlet. Only other option I could justify using 8000 gysahl is squall's necklace because I only have 2x att+30 accessories. So it is either 2x moderate fire resist or 3x att+30...
edit: 3x moderate fire
Asura.Linkan
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 22
By Asura.Linkan 2016-06-03 12:44:35
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »ugh..Should i use 8000 gysahl for flame cloak? only other fire resist accessories I have are flame ring and gigas armlet. Only other option I could justify using 8000 gysahl is squall's necklace because I only have 2x att+30 accessories. So it is either 2x moderate fire resist or 3x att+30...
Fire resists are everywhere Id focus on the Ice resist one and death resist accessories for those annoying gravity/hp based moves.
That being said the Fire cloak is pretty awesome, id get that between the two you mentioned because +30 atk accs are gunna be coming in all the time now i figure.
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 665
By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-06-03 12:46:40
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »ugh..Should i use 8000 gysahl for flame cloak? only other fire resist accessories I have are flame ring and gigas armlet. Only other option I could justify using 8000 gysahl is squall's necklace because I only have 2x att+30 accessories. So it is either 2x moderate fire resist or 3x att+30...
Fire resists are everywhere Id focus on the Ice resist one and death resist accessories for those annoying gravity/hp based moves.
That being said the Fire cloak is pretty awesome, id get that between the two you mentioned because +30 atk accs are gunna be coming in all the time now i figure.
KO resist accessories work for hp based moves? o.O
edit: Maybe I should just grab another gigas armlet since it gives moderate fire, ice, thunder resist in one package.
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10394
By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-06-03 13:05:36
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »ugh..Should i use 8000 gysahl for flame cloak? only other fire resist accessories I have are flame ring and gigas armlet. Only other option I could justify using 8000 gysahl is squall's necklace because I only have 2x att+30 accessories. So it is either 2x moderate fire resist or 3x att+30...
Fire resists are everywhere Id focus on the Ice resist one and death resist accessories for those annoying gravity/hp based moves.
That being said the Fire cloak is pretty awesome, id get that between the two you mentioned because +30 atk accs are gunna be coming in all the time now i figure.
KO resist accessories work for hp based moves? o.O
Yes, for resisting Gravity based attacks.
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10394
By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-06-03 13:06:58
Doing XI's Waughroon Shrine.
Ahriman puts his Airy Shield up.
Ramza -> Throw Stone
Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss
<3 <3
That attention to detail. Goblin Rush hitting 3 times too.
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-06-03 13:08:52
Why is shantotto given 4 star mnk abilities? lol
It has something to do with her Dissidia attacks. Completely stupid but honestly their other choice was to just make her a Viviish monomage.
Carbuncle.Arcksan
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 137
By Carbuncle.Arcksan 2016-06-03 16:21:54
/em saw FFXI on FFRK
Yay, at last so happy !
/em saw 3 dungeons, Windurst path.....
Yay... I'm not from Windurst and don't like it... feel totally disapointed... I thought Vanadiel was more than that...
By Pantafernando 2016-06-03 16:30:43
I liked the Brutal Earring accessory DeNA added im Fatty Choco shop, but with just att+20 I didnt buy it.
I bought the +30 att and mag accessories, that filled all my party slot accessory so I could toss 20 synergy accessories. Now my inventory is much more lighter.
Started playing a few days ago under the suggestion from a linkshell mate. The game is definitely nostalgic, & I am having a blast. It's for iOS, and Android smartphones and tablets. Currently trying to complete these timed events.
Any one else loving the global release of this game? It's been out in Japan for some time. We finally get in on the goodies
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