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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-14 12:53:16
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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Cook your steak right and don't ruin it with sauces!

we're talking a filet here, not a ribeye.

we should be enemies.

I stand my ground. Any well-cooked, properly-seasoned prime cut shouldn't need post-cooking saucing!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 12:55:59
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
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Cook your steak right and don't ruin it with sauces!

we're talking a filet here, not a ribeye.

we should be enemies.

I stand my ground. Any well-cooked, properly-seasoned prime cut shouldn't need post-cooking saucing!

How is seasoning any different than sauce in that context? You're still adding artificial flavors to what is supposed to be the pinnacle of carnivorous indulgence.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-14 12:58:17
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does salt & pepper count?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 12:59:21
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does salt & pepper count?

Raw salt would be ok because it has functions outside of its flavor, pepper is a gray area, I guess.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-14 13:02:30
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I really don't give a damn. Eat your steak how you want. XD

I just figured a good food debate should be at least potentially more constructive than where this thread has otherwise gone.

Not a fan of post-cooking sauces because they tend to be heavy and overpower the taste of the meat, where as proper pre-cooking seasoning enhances and compliments said flavor.

And Hollandaise sauce just overpowers the hell out of everything, coating your tongue in fat and deadening flavor.

Have your sauce, though.

Do not, however, overcook a prime cut. If you want beef jerky, buy it in the first place.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-14 13:06:00
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Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 13:06:11
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I really don't give a damn. Eat your steak how you want. XD

I just figured a good food debate should be at least potentially more constructive than where this thread has otherwise gone.

Not a fan of post-cooking sauces because they tend to be heavy and overpower the taste of the meat, where as proper pre-cooking seasoning enhances and compliments said flavor.

And Hollandaise sauce just overpowers the hell out of everything, coating your tongue in fat and deadening flavor.

Have your sauce, though.

Do not, however, overcook a prime cut. If you want beef jerky, buy it in the first place.

Showing your libertarian tendencies more and more Ray
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 13:09:30
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive in nature, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.

Those medications aren't aborting anything, they aren't pregnant if the embryo doesn't implant, they PREVENT pregnancy. You ambiguous use of "abortion" and misreading of the article you link are only the smallest part of your logical fallacy. A spontaneous abortion of pregnancy is called a miscarriage, your article confirms that. This is just like your misuse of infanticide and foeticide.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-14 13:12:47
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I'll add to the confusion: in my language there is no word for miscarriage, it's called abortion too(spontaneous)!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-14 13:14:30
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I really don't give a damn. Eat your steak how you want. XD

I just figured a good food debate should be at least potentially more constructive than where this thread has otherwise gone.

Not a fan of post-cooking sauces because they tend to be heavy and overpower the taste of the meat, where as proper pre-cooking seasoning enhances and compliments said flavor.

And Hollandaise sauce just overpowers the hell out of everything, coating your tongue in fat and deadening flavor.

Have your sauce, though.

Do not, however, overcook a prime cut. If you want beef jerky, buy it in the first place.

Showing your libertarian tendencies more and more Ray

Please. I am clearly a fascist.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-14 13:15:50
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I'll add to the confusion: in my language there is no word for miscarriage, it's called abortion too(spontaneous)!

I'll throw my vote in with muddying the water. I've read medical documents that refer to miscarriages as "spontaenous abortions" as well.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-14 13:16:41
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Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-14 13:18:16
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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I'll add to the confusion: in my language there is no word for miscarriage, it's called abortion too(spontaneous)!

I'll throw my vote in with muddying the water. I've read medical documents that refer to miscarriages as "spontaenous abortions" as well.
maybe there was some "legitimate rape" going on.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-14 13:19:25
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive in nature, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.

Those medications aren't aborting anything, they aren't pregnant if the embryo doesn't implant, they PREVENT pregnancy. You ambiguous use of "abortion" and misreading of the article you link are only the smallest part of your logical fallacy. A spontaneous abortion of pregnancy is called a miscarriage, your article confirms that. This is just like your misuse of infanticide and foeticide.

No! You are incorrect, if the medication alters the uterus so that the egg isn't capable of being implanted, they abort the pregnancy.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-14 13:19:32
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Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!

It's sad because in American law, the result of that debate is the difference between 1st Degree murder and 2nd Degree murder. (Basically execution and life in prison)
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-14 13:20:27
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Old but relevant to abortion and food :D
Taco Bell Launches New 'Morning After' Burrito
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 13:20:52
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive in nature, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.

Those medications aren't aborting anything, they aren't pregnant if the embryo doesn't implant, they PREVENT pregnancy. You ambiguous use of "abortion" and misreading of the article you link are only the smallest part of your logical fallacy. A spontaneous abortion of pregnancy is called a miscarriage, your article confirms that. This is just like your misuse of infanticide and foeticide.

No! You are incorrect, if the medication alters the uterus so that the egg isn't capable of being implanted, they abort the pregnancy.

Again, in order for it to be an "abortion" the egg has to already be implanted. Nobody besides you cares about your incredible misunderstanding of basic time scales, either, adios.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-14 13:21:07
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
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Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!

It's sad because in American law, the result of that debate is the difference between 1st Degree murder and 2nd Degree murder. (Basically execution and life in prison)

Ehhh. More like life in prison with or without parole.

We kill so few people on death row anymore.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 13:28:00
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!

It's sad because in American law, the result of that debate is the difference between 1st Degree murder and 2nd Degree murder. (Basically execution and life in prison)

Ehhh. More like life in prison with or without parole.

We kill so few people on death row anymore.

I can't say that's a bad thing, look how many of the people on death row were proven innocent after they were executed.
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By Odin.Liela 2014-07-14 13:29:54
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I like medium chunky salsa on my steaks. De-friggin-licious! Sorry, Ramyrez. But the power of salsa compels me!
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-14 13:32:22
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive in nature, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.

Those medications aren't aborting anything, they aren't pregnant if the embryo doesn't implant, they PREVENT pregnancy. You ambiguous use of "abortion" and misreading of the article you link are only the smallest part of your logical fallacy. A spontaneous abortion of pregnancy is called a miscarriage, your article confirms that. This is just like your misuse of infanticide and foeticide.

No! You are incorrect, if the medication alters the uterus so that the egg isn't capable of being implanted, they abort the pregnancy.

Again, in order for it to be an "abortion" the egg has to already be implanted. Nobody besides you cares about your incredible misunderstanding of basic time scales, either, adios.

In order to perform the procedure commonly refereed to as "an abortion" there must be an implanted egg to remove, but "abortion" is the termination of pregnancy either induced or spontaneous, and the egg does not need to be implanted for someone to be pregnant.
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By fonewear 2014-07-14 13:33:45
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I like my eggs scrambled (insert terrible joke here)
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-14 13:34:20
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Maybe we're splitting hairs over the difference between "abortion" which is the termination of pregnancy and "an abortion" meaning the medical procedure people frequently seek out to induce the termination of their pregnancy (abortion).

Either way, these medications are abortive in nature, because they are capable of terminating pregnancy at it's earliest stages.

Those medications aren't aborting anything, they aren't pregnant if the embryo doesn't implant, they PREVENT pregnancy. You ambiguous use of "abortion" and misreading of the article you link are only the smallest part of your logical fallacy. A spontaneous abortion of pregnancy is called a miscarriage, your article confirms that. This is just like your misuse of infanticide and foeticide.

No! You are incorrect, if the medication alters the uterus so that the egg isn't capable of being implanted, they abort the pregnancy.

Again, in order for it to be an "abortion" the egg has to already be implanted. Nobody besides you cares about your incredible misunderstanding of basic time scales, either, adios.

In order to perform the procedure commonly refereed to as "an abortion" there must be an implanted egg to remove, but "abortion" is the termination of pregnancy either induced or spontaneous, and the egg does not need to be implanted for someone to be pregnant.

Yes, actually, the embryo does have to be implanted for it to be a pregnancy. When will you bother to learn the most basic parts of the debates you enter?

edit: terminology, an egg cannot implant regardless of medicine.
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By Leviathan.Redherring 2014-07-14 13:35:03
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
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Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!

It's sad because in American law, the result of that debate is the difference between 1st Degree murder and 2nd Degree murder. (Basically execution and life in prison)

that depends on on what your definition of word is is.
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By fonewear 2014-07-14 13:35:25
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Leviathan.Redherring said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Now we just need to have a debate about the meaning of spontaneous!

It's sad because in American law, the result of that debate is the difference between 1st Degree murder and 2nd Degree murder. (Basically execution and life in prison)

that depends on on what your definition of word is is.

Bill Clinton is that you ?


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By driderk 2014-07-14 13:36:30
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Siren.Mosin said: »
does salt & pepper count?

EVOO, Maldon's smoked sea salt flakes, and fresh cracked pepper. That is all.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-14 13:37:57
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
In order to perform the procedure commonly refereed to as "an abortion" there must be an implanted egg to remove, but "abortion" is the termination of pregnancy either induced or spontaneous, and the egg does not need to be implanted for someone to be pregnant.
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By fonewear 2014-07-14 13:39:35
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This thread depends on the definition of the word definition.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-14 13:42:30
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Don't like the meaning of words Pleebo? Just change em...

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-14 13:44:58
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Can you abort hysteric pregnancy?
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