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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-06-26 15:54:45
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
Square Enix know we don't like nerf, and should just buff us, maybe make Hakagure a job trait ? TP bonus as a job trait would only be fair for sam.

TP Bonus Trait 9000 at all times?

I approve.

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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-26 16:09:43
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when it makes the difference between eating pizza or meat, or when you can skip a madrigal and get a minuet, that's when Amano is worth using over other options, but Koga is still ahead on anything you really bring sam to. The point being, it's just not as far ahead as spreadsheets lead you do believe, and it's by far the least forgiving.


Nope uncapped attack/capped accuracy amano using rcb is weaker than the same setup using sushi+koga.

I was talking specifically about Tsuru/Masa, phrasing wasn't great it seems.
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By Carbuncle.Killkenny 2014-06-26 16:13:36
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Odin.Jassik said: »
The point being, it's just not as far ahead as spreadsheets lead you do believe, and it's by far the least forgiving.

Yes, for about 5-10 seconds every 180 seconds your damage is lowered. Koga is still a long way ahead of the other options even when that is taken into account.

By least forgiving I'm assuming it means you just need to put a split seconds worth of thought into when you meditate.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-26 16:16:12
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You have to meditate about when to meditate.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-26 16:18:14
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You all lying keeping AM3 is VERY HARD on sam, therefore we need more buff to keep up with mnk, and to a lesser extent pup.
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By Carbuncle.Killkenny 2014-06-26 16:26:11
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I just find it hilarious when people without mythics repeatedly lecture on the difficulties of maintaining AM and how you need to adjust your playstyle.

The reality is, you just don't WS until you hit 3000tp when AM3 is off and you have more than a couple of WS left before you stop fighting. Rocket science.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-26 16:30:36
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Carbuncle.Killkenny said: »
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I just find it hilarious when people without mythics repeatedly lecture on the difficulties of maintaining AM and how you need to adjust your playstyle.

The reality is, you just don't WS until you hit 3000tp when AM3 is off and you have more than a couple of WS left before you stop fighting. Rocket science.


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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-06-26 16:31:15
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Reapplying aftermath on PUP is a joke. If you're struggling with it on a 2H weapon there's a much greater issue afoot
 
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-06-26 17:48:37
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Apparently they gave us unresisted sc damage so we could keep up with mnk, we should all be thankfull to Pchan for posting his damage calculation and have mnk and pup on top of everything else on official forum.


Also if you wanna make a 119 wpn for sam, make koga or use tsurumaru anything else isn't worth the effort.
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2014-06-26 18:07:43
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Serious question, I've just came back after a lengthy break and 119'd my Amano the other day, I've been doing af and relic 109 and have not done any SoA content at all and don't even know where to start. Is Amano still a nice weapon or am I an undesirable DD now? I have no intention of making a Koga as it requires more time and gil than I have but I would like to believe Amano wasn't a waste of my time.
Seems all everyone wants is MNKs and RNGs for stuff but I could be mistaken.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-06-26 18:11:09
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Ragnarok.Tingil said: »
Serious question, I've just came back after a lengthy break and 119'd my Amano the other day, I've been doing af and relic 109 and have not done any SoA content at all and don't even know where to start. Is Amano still a nice weapon or am I an undesirable DD now? I have no intention of making a Koga as it requires more time and gil than I have but I would like to believe Amano wasn't a waste of my time.
Seems all everyone wants is MNKs and RNGs for stuff but I could be mistaken.

Amano is good if you dont suck.
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By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2014-06-26 18:13:25
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Ultimate weapon? An oldie but goodie of course takes that distinction.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17813/soboro-sukehiro
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-26 18:22:24
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Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »
Ultimate weapon? An oldie but goodie of course takes that distinction.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17813/soboro-sukehiro
Why hit 2-3 times when you can hit... get this... when you can hit... 2-4 times!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-26 18:29:38
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What's better than 2-4? 2-5
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-26 18:31:42
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Odin.Jassik said: »
What's better than 2-4? 2-5
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By Pantafernando 2014-06-26 18:38:05
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Odin.Jassik said: »
What's better than 2-4? 2-5

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17440/kraken-club
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By Cerberus.Reiden 2014-06-26 18:47:26
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if SE reduced HMP trial at least by half, then i would 119 my masa just to do it. I still like the model ; ;
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-26 18:59:34
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yorcia 1-5b


this was done using Shinsoku, TP drain is really good
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-26 20:17:15
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
yorcia 1-5b


this was done using Shinsoku, TP drain is really good
What were you fighting? And honestly what were you using? lol
edit: also, how did you get that picture?
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-06-26 20:56:24
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if it isn't Jubu's samurai, gtfo, the end ...
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-26 21:25:02
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Ragnarok.Drewbles said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
yorcia 1-5b


this was done using Shinsoku, TP drain is really good
What were you fighting? And honestly what were you using? lol
edit: also, how did you get that picture?

Against mnk's and thf's, he could have been using basically any of the high end 119 options, sam tears yorcia to pieces now.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-26 21:28:08
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wow not a single person asking why I brought a GEO and THF to yorcia. you disappoint me AH

(ps the answer is becuz I can AND I'D BRING A RDM TOO IF I HAD ONE)
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-26 21:31:19
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I dunno what's wrong with the GEO. o.O And I just assumed the THF was a buyer you brought along that you allowed to DD or something. :p
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-26 21:54:35
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
I dunno what's wrong with the GEO. o.O And I just assumed the THF was a buyer you brought along that you allowed to DD or something. :p
Same lol, Geo is awesome in that zone for def down, blind, and a few nukes. And I mean zone isn't hard with those sam numbers lol
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-26 23:40:50
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
wow not a single person asking why I brought a GEO and THF to yorcia. you disappoint me AH

(ps the answer is becuz I can AND I'D BRING A RDM TOO IF I HAD ONE)


I was more interested in asking how to get dps data with sb D;
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-26 23:56:43
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
wow not a single person asking why I brought a GEO and THF to yorcia. you disappoint me AH

(ps the answer is becuz I can AND I'D BRING A RDM TOO IF I HAD ONE)


I was more interested in asking how to get dps data with sb D;
Yup thats what I was aksing
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-26 23:59:04
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you mean it isn't just normally like that


Odin.Llewelyn said: »
I dunno what's wrong with the GEO. o.O And I just assumed the THF was a buyer you brought along that you allowed to DD or something. :p

*** if I know, I love GEO, but from the looks of some threads around here lately I assumed I was in the minority. THF was a mule and we like to think it makes +2s drop more often .-.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-27 00:00:54
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Yeah, the dps data on mine is visible by default. Not sure what's up with your guys'.
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-06-27 00:14:19
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I think GEO lost some popularity after initial ilvl patch made original Delves more trivial, but I still like it. You'd think you'd see them more with the RNG bandwagon too since you don't have to stand in AoE garbage

Also, thirded about the DPS thing. Mines just always been there.