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Mass rise in children crossing into the US
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-07-16 10:20:16
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Tell businesses to stop hiring them and they'll tell you to go *** yourself.
Hey! We'll tell you more politely than that!
What makes me chuckle diabolically is people complaining that minimum wage isn't a "livable wage"
when there are people making half of that and still sending billions of dollars home every year...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-16 10:20:27
What person in the US isn't immune to chicken pox at this point? Jesus! Our parents and previous generations basically had pox parties to circumvent that for our childhoods, and now they have a vaccine doled out.
Either way, wouldn't you think that if the illegal children were allowed to stay, they would be routinely vaccinated also? I really don't get the entire disease panic button.
Really? You don't understand why keeping out infectious diseases is desirable?
Why would you think they would get vaccinated? Part of being "illegal" is hiding out from authorities. I mean, do you really think that when the govt places them in a city or town, they take residence right where they're instructed to?
Do you understand that you inundate yourself with sensationalist BS, and project your paranoia all over AH?
Since you're screaming hypothetical, if they're already in holding centers and in a state of limbo, wouldn't the smart solution be to vaccinate? If not the government, why not Unicef, the Red Cross, etc.?
Also, contracting chicken pox? Who in the US is likely to contract chicken pox as an adult nowadays? Some remote Appalachian hermits in a town run by Memaw and Uncle-Daddy?
It's not sensationalist. It's a legitimate concern, they regulate fruits and vegetables coming across to maintain ecosystems, this is pretty similar except it's to prevent outbreaks.
Do you not understand that when you refer to americans as "uncle-daddy" and "memaw" you only confirm how much contempt you have for you're own countrymen? Lots of people never got chicken pox as a kid, it's pretty dangerous as an adult, but who cares about them right?
How many illegal children are you gonna house and stay home and teach so that the rest of us don't have to be burdened?
How many of your uneducated, unvaccinated hillbilly countrymen or mistreated, neglected city youths are you going to house and take care of?
Your arguments lose all their persuasiveness when you realize we have the same problems right here at home and you want nothing to do with them, either.
You just want to sit comfortably and tell everyone else to *** off.
Frankly, I say let's take in the immigrants willing to do hard work for an honest wage, give them their shots and get them on their way to a real life, and start exporting the by-choice unemployed white trash and gang bangers down to Mexico. They'll do well with the cartel-run societies.
Should countries even have boarders?
I mean does citizenship have any privileges? Does it mean anything to be American? I'd guess not for you.
By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:20:55
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-07-16 10:21:24
Also please explain to me how my logic dictates that Americans should be quarantined? I have no idea how you get there. I simply think that the administration should not be facilitating an invasion of illegals, some of which carry dangerous infectious diseases into the country. Because 500,000 Americans get the chicken pox every year.
Edit: used to be 4 million but that damn vaccine worked
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By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:23:05
It's an election year nothing will be done about immigration.
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By Anna Ruthven 2014-07-16 10:23:40
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Sums up the mentality of the people who post in comments sections on news sites.
Ill Eagles ***. Are you a patriot?
Well come on down, fellow American, and adopt an eagle!
All our eagles are vaccinated and registered as Democrats. No undocumented or ill eagles here!
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By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:24:32
Eagles I love that one song they do.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-16 10:26:26
What person in the US isn't immune to chicken pox at this point? Jesus! Our parents and previous generations basically had pox parties to circumvent that for our childhoods, and now they have a vaccine doled out.
Either way, wouldn't you think that if the illegal children were allowed to stay, they would be routinely vaccinated also? I really don't get the entire disease panic button.
Really? You don't understand why keeping out infectious diseases is desirable?
Why would you think they would get vaccinated? Part of being "illegal" is hiding out from authorities. I mean, do you really think that when the govt places them in a city or town, they take residence right where they're instructed to?
Do you understand that you inundate yourself with sensationalist BS, and project your paranoia all over AH?
Since you're screaming hypothetical, if they're already in holding centers and in a state of limbo, wouldn't the smart solution be to vaccinate? If not the government, why not Unicef, the Red Cross, etc.?
Also, contracting chicken pox? Who in the US is likely to contract chicken pox as an adult nowadays? Some remote Appalachian hermits in a town run by Memaw and Uncle-Daddy?
It's not sensationalist. It's a legitimate concern, they regulate fruits and vegetables coming across to maintain ecosystems, this is pretty similar except it's to prevent outbreaks.
Do you not understand that when you refer to americans as "uncle-daddy" and "memaw" you only confirm how much contempt you have for you're own countrymen? Lots of people never got chicken pox as a kid, it's pretty dangerous as an adult, but who cares about them right?
How many illegal children are you gonna house and stay home and teach so that the rest of us don't have to be burdened?
How many of your uneducated, unvaccinated hillbilly countrymen or mistreated, neglected city youths are you going to house and take care of?
Your arguments lose all their persuasiveness when you realize we have the same problems right here at home and you want nothing to do with them, either.
You just want to sit comfortably and tell everyone else to *** off.
Frankly, I say let's take in the immigrants willing to do hard work for an honest wage, give them their shots and get them on their way to a real life, and start exporting the by-choice unemployed white trash and gang bangers down to Mexico. They'll do well with the cartel-run societies. Should countries even have boarders? Only if they are ships?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:27:02
Should countries even have boarders?
No. They shouldn't.
But then, people shouldn't kill each other.
People shouldn't let others suffer needlessly.
People shouldn't be trying to kill each other over matters of religion.
People shouldn't be power-hungry dictators who murder their own civillians while smiling bright smiles for the international news cameras.
There are a lot of things that should be that aren't, and a lot of things that shouldn't be that are.
But I don't really expect you to do anything but respond with spiteful quips about this being "idealic nonsense".
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By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:28:41
Should countries even have boarders?
No. They shouldn't.
But then, people shouldn't kill each other.
People shouldn't let others suffer needlessly.
People shouldn't be trying to kill each other over matters of religion.
People shouldn't be power-hungry dictators who murder their own civillians while smiling bright smiles for the international news cameras.
There are a lot of things that should be that aren't, and a lot of things that shouldn't be that are.
But I don't really expect you to do anything but respond with spiteful quips about this being "idealic nonsense".
Your hippie ideals intrigue me can you make them into a song ?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-07-16 10:33:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Tell businesses to stop hiring them and they'll tell you to go *** yourself.
Hey! We'll tell you more politely than that!
What makes me chuckle diabolically is people complaining that minimum wage isn't a "livable wage"
when there are people making half of that and still sending billions of dollars home every year...
Living in an illegally subdivided apartment stacked 9-10 in a room with limited utilities, poor diet of crap and hopelessness. That's if you even have a place and aren't sleeping under a freeway.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-16 10:34:41
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:35:41
Should countries even have boarders?
No. They shouldn't.
But then, people shouldn't kill each other.
People shouldn't let others suffer needlessly.
People shouldn't be trying to kill each other over matters of religion.
People shouldn't be power-hungry dictators who murder their own civillians while smiling bright smiles for the international news cameras.
There are a lot of things that should be that aren't, and a lot of things that shouldn't be that are.
But I don't really expect you to do anything but respond with spiteful quips about this being "idealic nonsense".
Your hippie ideals intrigue me can you make them into a song ?
*** hippies. They're useless.
There's a difference between thinking the world is able to work toward a peaceful global society and not bathing, playing hackey sack, getting stoned, and thinking Jerry Garcia had all the answers.
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By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:35:54
I feel like holding hands and singing Kumbaya with my illegal immigrant friends.
I wouldn't say world peace is laughable wait actually I would.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:37:37
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
We (the US citizens) are the major contributor to Latin & South America's drug cartels essentially controlling their countries. They're armed with weapons made in the USA. They're shipping their drugs to the USA and sitting on fat mansions built with bricks of American bills.
Pablo Escobar is the patron saint of the day south of the border.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-16 10:38:36
Should countries even have boarders?
Idealistic nonsense.
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
We (the US citizens) are the major contributor to Latin & South America's drug cartels essentially controlling their countries. They're armed with weapons made in the USA. They're shipping their drugs to the USA and sitting on fat mansions built with bricks of American bills.
Pablo Escobar is the patron saint of the day south of the border.
So, we deserve it?
By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:38:40
Hey I have a prescription for my pot. I get nervous sometimes.
Pot is the solution and the problem !
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-16 10:43:41
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
you glossed over me saying this is our problem.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-16 10:44:50
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
well they shouldn't.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:46:18
Should countries even have boarders?
Idealistic nonsense.
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
We (the US citizens) are the major contributor to Latin & South America's drug cartels essentially controlling their countries. They're armed with weapons made in the USA. They're shipping their drugs to the USA and sitting on fat mansions built with bricks of American bills.
Pablo Escobar is the patron saint of the day south of the border.
So, we deserve it?
You're the one always screaming about personal responsibility.
By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:48:17
So when I go to Taco Bell am I contributing to illegal immigration ?
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-07-16 10:48:22
So, it's come to this!
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-16 10:48:46
You're the one always screaming about personal responsibility.
only when it conveniently fits an argument, apparently.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-16 10:50:13
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
you glossed over me saying this is our problem.
We have our own problems, we should fix those before we agree to absorb the problems of other countries.
By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:50:29
Best way to solve the drug problem...Just say no !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-16 10:51:29
Should countries even have boarders?
Idealistic nonsense.
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
We (the US citizens) are the major contributor to Latin & South America's drug cartels essentially controlling their countries. They're armed with weapons made in the USA. They're shipping their drugs to the USA and sitting on fat mansions built with bricks of American bills.
Pablo Escobar is the patron saint of the day south of the border.
So, we deserve it?
You're the one always screaming about personal responsibility.
Please explain to me in detail how we control the countries in latin and south america?
By fonewear 2014-07-16 10:52:16
If the old Lakers can avoid drugs there is hope for us all !
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:52:18
Best way to solve the drug problem...Just say no !
Thanks Nancy Reagan.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-16 10:52:59
Should countries even have boarders?
Idealistic nonsense.
Grow up, we should fix our own before we take on someone else's.
we made this problem wanting all of latin america's precious drugs, btw. we are culpable when the consequences of our actions comes a knockin' on the door.
I tried to say this before and everyone just sort of ignored it.
We (the US citizens) are the major contributor to Latin & South America's drug cartels essentially controlling their countries. They're armed with weapons made in the USA. They're shipping their drugs to the USA and sitting on fat mansions built with bricks of American bills.
Pablo Escobar is the patron saint of the day south of the border.
So, we deserve it?
You're the one always screaming about personal responsibility.
Please explain to me in detail how we control the countries in latin and south america?
You can't grasp that their problems -- that is, the narcoculture and cartel power they're fleeing -- is caused entirely by the actions of Americans?
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-07-16 10:53:25
Where's Oliver North when we need him?
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Quote: Immigrant Children Crossing into the US
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — As many as 1,200 children who were detained while trying to enter the U.S. illegally will be taken to Fort Sill this week as federal officials try to find their families or place them with a sponsor, federal and military officials said Monday.
The unaccompanied minors, most of them teenagers from Central America, will start arriving at Fort Sill from Arizona starting Friday, according to Fort Sill and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The children and teens are among the more than 47,000 unaccompanied minors taken into custody at the border since October.
Federal authorities plan to use a holding facility in Nogales, Arizona, as a way station where the children will be vaccinated and checked medically before being sent to Fort Sill and other housing facilities in Texas and California.
Fort Sill said it will temporarily hold between 600 and 1,200 minors in vacant housing at the Army post for up to four months, or as long as directed. DHHS’s Administration for Children and Families will be responsible for their care.
“Fort Sill will provide a vacant facility historically used by soldiers set apart from main post that offers sleeping quarters, bathing and toilet facilities, as well as multi-purpose gathering space,” Keith Pannell and Nancy Elliott, spokespeople for Fort Sill, said in a statement released Monday.
Oklahoma’s congressional delegation criticized the plan, saying military bases shouldn’t be used for such purposes.
“Using Fort Sill and other military bases to house illegal immigrants is simply an inappropriate use of military facilities,” said Republican Rep. Tom Cole, whose district includes the Army post about 85 miles southwest of Oklahoma City. “Moreover, I am concerned that what begins as an emergency measure could, over time, evolve into a permanent juvenile detention center for those who have entered the country illegally.”
The move is part of the Unaccompanied Alien Children program, which provides foster care, group homes and residential treatment centers for minors who try to cross the border without their parents or guardians. It also provides classroom education, health care, vocational training and legal services, according to DHHS’s website.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security last month started flying immigrants in the U.S. illegally to Arizona from the Rio Grande Valley in Texas after the number of immigrants — including more than 48,000 children traveling on their own — overwhelmed the Border Patrol there.
Immigrant families were flown from Texas and released in Arizona, then told to report to a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office near where they were traveling within 15 days. ICE has said the immigrants were mostly families from Central America fleeing extreme poverty and violence.
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