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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-28 19:19:01
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'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:20:40
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.

What you said could be classified as hate speech though !

You triggered me with the word liberal. I find that offensive I'm a progressive !
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:22:17
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In fact you could argue I'm so liberal progressive I'm out of touch with other liberals.
 
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-08-28 19:23:21
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fonewear said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.

What you said could be classified as hate speech though !

You triggered me with the word liberal. I find that offensive I'm a progressive !
Broad insults aren't allowed have him banned!
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:24:16
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I'm ready to pay more for fruits and vegetables. I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 19:24:54
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'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.

He states facts that aren't facts... Preying on frustrated and angry people. It's really uncanny how much his rhetoric sounds like this guy.
 
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:26:11
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.

He states facts that aren't facts... Preying on frustrated and angry people. It's really uncanny how much his rhetoric sounds like this guy.

You can't cite Hilter without a pic !
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:27:13
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Trump compared to Hitler circle of life is complete.

What's next Bernie Sanders is the next Stalin ?
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 19:29:02
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Godwin!

It was bound to happen eventually, however, the similarity in how the current nativist rhetoric is being expounded and the way it was in that situation is scary to say the least.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 19:30:15
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fonewear said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
'Hate' is just a word liberals throw around when they cannot win the argument. Trump states facts that they cannot refute and it frustrates them terribly. Their only recourse is to call it hate speech to try to get people to not listen to him and to shut him down.

He states facts that aren't facts... Preying on frustrated and angry people. It's really uncanny how much his rhetoric sounds like this guy.

You can't cite Hilter without a pic !



I don't know what the problem is, he seems like a really sweet fella.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:31:49
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Hilter wasn't so bad. You had to get to know the real Hitler the man that loved the outdoors nature etc.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 19:32:50
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What's the saying you got to kill a few million jews if you want to make an omelet ?
 
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-08-28 20:02:21
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Illegal immigrant is not directed towards any specific nation.

Why do you think that mexico is the only place where they come from?
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 20:08:20
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Illegal immigrant is not directed towards any specific nation.

Why do you think that mexico is the only place where they come from?

Considering Trump says the Mexican government is sending them... In reality, most of the hispanic illegal immigrants are coming from central american countries like guatamala, MOST illegal immigrants are not mexican.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-28 20:19:22
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Why do you think the Mexican government isn't sending their worst here illegally. They are a drag on their nearly failed narcostate.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 20:20:23
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Why do you think the Mexican government isn't sending their worst here illegally. They are a drag on their nearly failed narcostate.

Because there is no evidence that they are? I won't discount it as a possibility, but it's hardly fact.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-28 20:39:35
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Why do you think the Mexican government isn't sending their worst here illegally. They are a drag on their nearly failed narcostate.

Because there is no evidence that they are? I won't discount it as a possibility, but it's hardly fact.


Call it a conspiracy theory but I think they are. It makes sense.

Are their best sneaking here illegally?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-28 20:46:32
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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Don't worry Hillary can't lose ! Or if she does they will do a recount circa 2000 !

Randomly jumping off to a topic no one is even talking about.

Let me check the title of the thread...random...carry on !

You know what you do.

Everyone knows what Fone does. Have you not come to grips with it yet?
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 20:46:43
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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Why do you think the Mexican government isn't sending their worst here illegally. They are a drag on their nearly failed narcostate.

Because there is no evidence that they are? I won't discount it as a possibility, but it's hardly fact.


Call it a conspiracy theory but I think they are. It makes sense.

Are their best sneaking here illegally?

It's more than likely a cross-section. People who are seeking work because they can't find any at home to build a better life for their family and some worthless scum looking for a place with nice stuff to steal and rich kids to sell drugs to.

Nothing about a government sneaking criminals into another country makes sense.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-08-28 21:51:24
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I imagine references to godwin's law will become more commonplace in the upcoming years. Half of our government has been taken over by a group that expressive an excessive amount of nationalism, blames all their problems on a minority and just think things will be better if they just...shall we say, go away.

And their leading presidential contender wants to send in government officers and remove them from their home by force. The guy in second place wants to use drones on them.


None of that is really going to happen, but I think the excessive nationalism intrigues me the most. They love this country oh-so much but can't stop trying to break away from it. They love the constitution so much, except for the parts that they don't. If Trump was a more charismatic leader, and not a clown, I might actually be worried.


Also, if anyone wants a giggle, go to yahoo news, pick an article that bashes Trump, then pick an article that bashes Sanders. One of them has angry comments like it's written by a 4th grader, and the other from a college student.


I suppose I should post my question for the barrel of conservative wisdom, Amandarius, here, since the other thread has been delisted.

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I wonder, is there a way for Clinton to be alleviated from this issue without further enraging you?

I wouldn't want to think that you're someone who would pre-determine that she's definitively guilty without being convicted of any crimes, especially since literally no one knows the full story as of yet, which includes you. Listening to various conservatives talk about this for weeks on end now, it seems like there are only two possibilities: either she's guilty or she's being shielded by the democrats/obama/etc. Is the third option that all of this is really about nothing not possible?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-28 22:21:50
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Sweeping generalizations, check.

Troll baiting, check.

General partisan hackery, check.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-08-28 22:55:15
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Nothing wrong with generalizations in this case.

The stigma behind generalizations comes from when you define a specific person based on generalizations without really getting to know the person to begin with. In this case, I'm generally talking about one side of our political spectrum, hence, the use of generalizations. It seems like you've been taught generalizations were bad but was never told why they're bad.

If this isn't allowed, then you literally can't say anything about either side since there isn't a single fact that everyone on either side believes in.

Of course, we all know you're just being a coward and hiding behind political correctness, like usual.

Anyways, I'm more interested in Ama's responses since, unlike you, he isn't scared to own up to his own political beliefs.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-28 23:16:50
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Yes, because anything short of the same old partisan bullcrap makes me a coward. And me hiding behind political correctness? Have we even met? Go back to your hole.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-28 23:22:41
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So after skimming the last few pages am I to understand that wanting illegal immigrants that are also dangerous criminals out of the country equates to hate and racism? Ending an unhealthy relationship with unruly company is neither hateful or racist.
And FFS don't take this out of context and say I implied that all illegal immigrants are dangerous criminals, because I said nothing of the sort.
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