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By fonewear 2015-08-28 10:58:54
When you guys solve racism can you present it to me in form of Powerpoint. I'd love to see it !
By Bloodrose 2015-08-28 11:00:52
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 11:01:14
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »Yup, but whatcha gonna do?
Be ever aware of my own biases and take every opportunity to visualize scenarios from a perspective other than my own. Outside of myself, there isn't much you can do. Most people just aren't willing to step outside themselves and try to see things from a different perspective.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:01:33
Long as there isn't a lot of words I don't read too well !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-28 11:01:36
I'm aware of my racial biases and I actively try to keep them in check. Why not try to get rid of said biases?
It's really not that difficult. I managed to do it, it's called "not caring anymore."
Yeah, no, we're not talking about the rate crimes are committed, some groups are more likely to commit certain crimes. We're talking about the difference in how they are policed and prosecuted when they are committed at the same rate, like recreational drug use. Can you give an example with a source please? I'm interested in this, not trying to argue about it.
What bias do you think I'm referring to? I'm talking about things like short-term lenders, which are far more prolific in black neighborhoods than white ones. Those businesses are geared towards poorer people who need to get those loans.
It is not racial-profiling, it is where their customers live at. Those businesses do not target only people of a specific race...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-08-28 11:02:10
The problem isn't racists, it's an institutionalized bias towards minoritys which puts them at a disadvantage that people deny exists. There are no biases, institutionalized or not, towards minorities in today's world where we reward people based on the color of their skin.
Case in Point: Obama. Case in fricking point Katrina reporting dept.
Pic of a black dude wading through waist deep water with a box on his shoulder reported as a looter.
Pic of a white dude wading through waist deep water towing a bulging plastic bag behind him reported as foraging.
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By Bloodrose 2015-08-28 11:02:13
Pie charts with ice cream graphs.
The low point in the graph is when the ice cream melts.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:02:44
I tend to be biased towards white bread and not the darker brown bread does that make me racist ?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-28 11:03:36
The problem isn't racists, it's an institutionalized bias towards minoritys which puts them at a disadvantage that people deny exists. There are no biases, institutionalized or not, towards minorities in today's world where we reward people based on the color of their skin.
Case in Point: Obama. Case in fricking point Katrina reporting dept.
Pic of a black dude wading through waist deep water with a box on his shoulder reported as a looter.
Pic of a white dude wading through waist deep water towing a bulging plastic bag behind him reported as foraging. Source or GTFO.
By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:03:53
The only way to end racism is to stop being white !
We're getting there. Give it 3-4 more generations.
By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:03:56
The problem isn't racists, it's an institutionalized bias towards minoritys which puts them at a disadvantage that people deny exists. There are no biases, institutionalized or not, towards minorities in today's world where we reward people based on the color of their skin.
Case in Point: Obama. Case in fricking point Katrina reporting dept.
Pic of a black dude wading through waist deep water with a box on his shoulder reported as a looter.
Pic of a white dude wading through waist deep water towing a bulging plastic bag behind him reported as foraging.
You're living in the past man that racism happened 10 years ago !
By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:04:51
I tend to be biased towards white bread and not the darker brown bread does that make me racist ?
No but it may give you beriberi if you switch to an all-rice diet and maintain your light-grain bias.
Gotta get that thiamin, yo!
By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:05:46
We all know that God is racist why else would he send a hurricane to the poorest black parts of Alabama and Louisiana !
By Bloodrose 2015-08-28 11:06:17
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-28 11:07:13
We all know that God is racist why else would he send a hurricane to the poorest black parts of Alabama and Louisiana ! Please, we all know the Bush Administration's weather machine was what caused Katrina.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-08-28 11:07:16
The problem isn't racists, it's an institutionalized bias towards minoritys which puts them at a disadvantage that people deny exists. There are no biases, institutionalized or not, towards minorities in today's world where we reward people based on the color of their skin.
Case in Point: Obama. Case in fricking point Katrina reporting dept.
Pic of a black dude wading through waist deep water with a box on his shoulder reported as a looter.
Pic of a white dude wading through waist deep water towing a bulging plastic bag behind him reported as foraging. Source or GTFO. I am not going to look for 10 year old photos nor the story that pointed those two out to me. Sorry.
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By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:08:52
I do recall the image(s) to which she's referring.
Edit: In fairness, not the same tag line writer on the two photos, so there's some wiggle room in there about whether it's racism or just the way one person worded it over another. But incidental or not, there it is. As someone who has written such things for the AP, however, I can tell you in writing taglines for such photos during a disaster such as that where everyone is struggling, I would think twice before saying an individual child wading in waste-deep water is "looting."
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 11:09:33
I'm aware of my racial biases and I actively try to keep them in check. Why not try to get rid of said biases?
It's really not that difficult. I managed to do it, it's called "not caring anymore."
Yeah, no, we're not talking about the rate crimes are committed, some groups are more likely to commit certain crimes. We're talking about the difference in how they are policed and prosecuted when they are committed at the same rate, like recreational drug use. Can you give an example with a source please? I'm interested in this, not trying to argue about it.
What bias do you think I'm referring to? I'm talking about things like short-term lenders, which are far more prolific in black neighborhoods than white ones. Those businesses are geared towards poorer people who need to get those loans.
It is not racial-profiling, it is where their customers live at. Those businesses do not target only people of a specific race...
You can't get rid of biases, they're a product of your life experience. You can be aware of them and keep them in check.
NY Time article
Poor people with poor financial skills are their target customers. That's who they are targeting. There are just far more of them in poor black neighborhoods and far fewer traditional banks. They also advertise more heavily on Spanish language TV and hip-hop radio for example.
By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:11:33
I'm so biased that I don't even realize that I'm biased !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-28 11:12:04
I do recall the image(s) to which she's referring.
So, two different articles by two different news sources proves what again?
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 11:12:36
So, two different articles by two different news sources proves what again?
That biases exist.
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By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:13:08
The only way to be unbiased is to stop existing damn it !
I'm sure the non existence people would like that !
By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:13:35
So, two different articles by two different news sources proves what again?
See my edit.
Also, all I'm saying is I recall what she's talking about.
Edit: both of you, for that matter!
By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:14:57
The only way to be unbiased is to stop existing damn it !
I'm sure the non existence people would like that !
Be bias all day. You're right, you can't help your initial reaction to a circumstance because of your upbringing and life experiences.
Just be aware of it and try not to do anyone else wrong because of it.
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By Ramyrez 2015-08-28 11:15:38
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »You must be bored then :P
Is there any other reason to be posting here?
By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:16:42
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »You must be bored then :P
Is there any other reason to be posting here?
You might earn a no life badge !
By fonewear 2015-08-28 11:17:45
Anyways there is important politcal news today Donald Trump's hair is real !
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-proves-his-hair-is-real/
Donald Trump's campaign has been promising specifics for weeks now, recently releasing a detailed immigration plan. At a speech in Greenville, South Carolina on Thursday, a crowd of about 1,400 heard one more specific: The hair is real.
Trump opened his speech by reading aloud from a New York Times article about staunchly anti-Trump stories published by Hispanic media outlets. He took issue with story's opening line: "Ricardo Sánchez, known as 'El Mandril' on his Spanish drive-time radio show in Los Angeles, has taken to calling Donald J. Trump 'El hombre del peluquín' -- the man of the toupee."
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz to protest Iran deal together in DC
Trump wanted to prove that he did not, in fact, wear a toupee.
"It's my hair!" Trump exclaimed to the laughing crowd. "I swear! Come here. Just come on up here. They're going to let you. You have to do an inspection, this is getting crazy."
He brought Mary Margaret Bannister, the South Carolina House Majority leader's wife, on stage and let her touch the most famous hairstyle in the 2016 presidential race. The woman did as she was told and went to the microphone and said, "Yes, I believe it is."
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Donald Trump: Touch my hair -- it's real
This wasn't the first time Trump has revved up campaign crowds by proving his hair's authenticity. He also had a supporter join him on stage to touch his hair at a New Hampshire event in June.
Thursday's speech was hosted by the Upstate Chamber Coalition, and campaign officials said that tickets sold out five days after the event was announced. The event featured classic Trump call and response. When he mentioned Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina's Republican home state senator and one of Trump's 2016 rivals, the crowd booed heavily.
"[Graham's] out of control. Poll came out the other day and he was at zero. Zero! Even Pataki was higher. Pataki was at zero with an arrow up!" Trump said, referring to former New York Gov. George Pataki, another GOP 2016 candidate.
"I want to see the man win," said Rick Routzahn, of Myrtle Beach. Routzahn, who works in home repair, traveled to the event hoping to become a full-time volunteer for the campaign. He was wearing a customized baseball shirt with Trump emblazoned on the back. "No offense, a lot of us have a disdain for you media guys. If he's taking any of you on, it would be like, 'Yeah, go get 'em!'"
At times, Trump acted like a stand-up comedian, especially when referring to his immigration plan.
"They buy a ladder at Home Depot, and they're over the wall," Trump said, referring to the Southern border. "People aren't going over my wall."
After the speech and a private meet-and-greet with local VIP's, Trump took questions from reporters.
"I believe very strongly in the Second Amendment," Trump said, in response to a question on gun violencein connection to the shootings of two journalists in Virginia. "We have people with mental disabilities, mental problems. It's too bad somebody can't figure it out. We have a serious mental problem."
He did not specify what his solution would be. Trump also announced that he would be holding a joint event with one of his rivals for the GOP nomination, Sen. Ted Cruz, in Washington to protest the Iran deal. In a statement, the Cruz campaign confirmed the event said its specifics are still being worked out.
Trump played down recent reports that he was beginning to seek out donations, after claiming for months that he didn't need anybody's money. He even said during the speech, to a partial standing ovation, that he wouldn't be controlled by lobbyists.
Politico reported that Trump attended a fundraiser for a super PAC trying to get him elected.
"All I do is some meet and greets," Trump said. "People ask me would I come and say hello. As you know, other than the little donations where people send in seven dollars and twenty dollars and even, you know, in some cases, hundreds of dollars. All I will do, on some occasions, I will do a meet and greet."
Anna Teasley came to the event as an undecided voter. She co-owns a paper distribution business with her husband in Easley, a suburb of Greenville, where she's lived for the last 30 years. Teasley says she came to the event out of "curiosity."
"It bothers me," Teasley said when asked about Trump's interactions with Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly. "It seems almost like an attack. But that's Trump. He is who he is. I think that might've been a little bit aggressive."
Teasley did go on to say, however, "He's shaking things up. We need a big shakeup."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-28 11:18:24
You can't get rid of biases, they're a product of your life experience. You can be aware of them and keep them in check. So, basically you are calling me a racist even though I made no racial remarks or comments. Or even hinted at anything racial towards anyone. Or even have any evidence that I have racial tendencies towards any specific group of people.
But I'm racist because you think that people cannot get rid of racial biases. Because you didn't try.
Got it.
Poor people with poor financial skills are their target customers. That's who they are targeting. There are just far more of them in poor black neighborhoods and far fewer traditional banks. They also advertise more heavily on Spanish language TV and hip-hop radio for example. Again, those businesses do not target specific people based on the color of their skin, which is what you accused them of doing.
Racism isn't just the words that are used, it's the disparities in our legal system, the way body language is interpreted, even financial institutions.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-28 11:18:34
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »Asura.Floppyseconds said: »Yup, but whatcha gonna do?
Be ever aware of my own biases and take every opportunity to visualize scenarios from a perspective other than my own. Outside of myself, there isn't much you can do.
You must be bored then :P
My free time comes in spurts, but I do a lot of community service work, and I see this stuff first hand.
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