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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-28 10:59:52
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fonewear said: »
Or was it a black man with a fetish for white women. I don't remember.

It was a Chinese man with a Black Fetish for White Filipino Dwarfs.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-28 11:53:19
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Yeah, I'm really bored with the whole Climate Change debate. Everyone with a brain knows it's happening and is impacted in a not-insignificant way by human activity. And everyone with a financial stake in it not being true funnels money and propaganda to the opposition. This pattern has happened in every environmental issue for the last 100 years. Atomic Testing and the Lead Industry being the most prominent examples.

At this point the only thing I can say to Altimaomega, conservative sheep that he is, always mewling the shepherd's [FoxNews] talking points is that the Shepherd does not protect his flock because he cares for them; he protects his flock because he intends to harvest the wool and meat. You think on that. (Monumental task thinking will be)

Your right everyone with a brain does know whats going to happen prices are gonna continue to go up for power, food, and water. all because sheep like you will blindly follow science and you'll pay the price in the end. Currently I'm in the process of installing a 3.5Kw solar and wind grid-tie and battery bank. I'm doing this not because of global warming but because in 2-3 years it should pay for itself since my electric bill is INSANE and only getting worse.

Very few people can actually afford to do this since the initial cost is still quite high and it still won't cover your whole electric bill. However, when the shepherd starts butchering his herd I'll still have my power, food, and water. Will you?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-28 11:55:31
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conservatives: prepping for doomsday since 1955!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-28 11:59:23
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Science is teh dumbs guys that's why I'm installing all this neat-o technology that is totally not the result of any scientific endeavor.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-28 12:02:01
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Science is teh dumbs guys that's why I'm installing all this neat-o technology that is totally not the result of any scientific endeavor.

When you treat science as infallible faith it is.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-28 12:04:07
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Seems science is only infallible when you don't agree with the results, or, in your case, when you're wholly incapable of actually understanding the results.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-28 12:08:37
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Altimaomega said: »
However, when the shepherd starts butchering his herd I'll still have my power, food, and water. Will you?

Yeah...I'm sure no one will notice yours is the only house with the lights on in the neighborhood >.>
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-28 12:14:05
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
However, when the shepherd starts butchering his herd I'll still have my power, food, and water. Will you?

Yeah...I'm sure no one will notice yours is the only house with the lights on in the neighborhood >.>

Something, something, "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street", something, something....
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-28 12:24:35
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
However, when the shepherd starts butchering his herd I'll still have my power, food, and water. Will you?

Yeah...I'm sure no one will notice yours is the only house with the lights on in the neighborhood >.>

He's likely got guns too!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-28 12:24:44
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Altimaomega said: »
3.5Kw

That's not enough!!!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 12:25:45
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Science is teh dumbs guys that's why I'm installing all this neat-o technology that is totally not the result of any scientific endeavor.
No, conservatives install solar panels and other alternative energy equipment on their property to reduce their energy bill.

In some cases (like mine, but only because I have enough property to do it) we sell the energy back to the company/county. My investment will be paid off next year.

Has nothing to do with the perceived science of global warming or climate science that this technology is in connection with. Pure expense reduction and/or additional income.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:29:08
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
As for the *** you posted: it seems like the corporations that are reaping profits out the *** are going to pass the tax to the end consumer, instead of cutting into their ridiculously high bottom line (like they should).

Not to mention that I've always considered regular gas taxes to be asinine in the first place, and an unstable state based income (hello problems the Governator had).

That's not even getting into the stupidity that is carbon credits, but hey.
Let me ask you this then: Do you consider a 7% Net Profit to be, as you put it, a ridiculously high bottom line?

Heck, they pay federal income tax at a higher percentage then that.

Oh wait, I forgot, you believe that they don't pay federal income tax......

Considering that's still like 32 billion dollars (if the source I just looked up quick is accurate, don't really care to double check it with this massive headache).

http://news.exxonmobil.com/press-release/exxon-mobil-corporation-announces-estimated-fourth-quarter-2013-results

I'm sure it's probably in your report too, but too lazy to read the whole thing.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:29:53
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
17.5 trillion dollars of debt about to come back and hit the U.S. across its arrogant face, and yet people argue about the weather.

U.S.A.!
God damn you say some stupid ***sometimes, how do you propose this is happening?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-28 12:30:26
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
However, when the shepherd starts butchering his herd I'll still have my power, food, and water. Will you?

Yeah...I'm sure no one will notice yours is the only house with the lights on in the neighborhood >.>

He's likely got guns too!

everyone has guns in america...

are you going to be the guy crouched down hiding in the shadows along the tree line or the black silhouette that stands out like a Balinese shadow puppet in a house lit up like a christmas tree?
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:31:01
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
17.5 trillion dollars of debt about to come back and hit the U.S. across its arrogant face, and yet people argue about the weather.

U.S.A.!
A very large portion of it will only hit across the faces of US citizens though.

Technically, all of it, because not only did we loan the money to ourselves, we elected the idiots who wasted the money in the first place.

Fiscal Responsibility is a dirty word to those in power in Washington D.C. now.

and it's a myth by those who preach it, as they have no actual intention of implementing it, just political prancing in order to cut welfare programs, and deregulate big business, because that works out sooooo well. (to be fair though, both sides are guilty of deregulation).
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-08-28 12:32:25
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You act like solar energy is a conservative ideal lol... It's not. It's also dependent on where you live, how much land you have and if you have the capital to make the initial investment. Some people are blocked by simple HOA by-laws. Oh well sorry you can't install those in the front of your home... Oh you can't get enough light on the back? Too bad!
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:34:12
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
That's true, the whole world has an increasing rate of Desertification, which kind of proves the thesis of Climate Change.

For California though, there's several places in the North part of the state that now have no running water because of the drought. If you think that's typical okay.
Wait, what?

California is always in a "drought" and they have no policies in regards to water conservation?

Heck, all of the wildfires there should be basis enough for water conservation.

What sort of political idiots run the place there?

They've always been good at hiring actors as politicians instead of people with any solid, good plans...
To be fair, the Governator was actually a rather decent governor in the terms of trying, I'd have to read more into his actual policies, but he even went as far as to use his image to try to get more tourism to Cali, I mean damn.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-28 12:34:35
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Solar energy in its current form has trade offs. They aren't environment friendly to make, and they don't have a very long lifespan before needing replacement.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:34:47
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Siren.Mosin said: »
let's leave cigarettes out of this. *** yuppies already have me paying 20$ a pack for no reason.
should be 40
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-28 12:35:36
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
No, conservatives install solar panels and other alternative energy equipment on their property to reduce their energy bill.

In some cases (like mine, but only because I have enough property to do it) we sell the energy back to the company/county. My investment will be paid off next year.

Has nothing to do with the perceived science of global warming or climate science that this technology is in connection with. Pure expense reduction and/or additional income.
Mmm, wasn't the point but regardless, this point could be extended to any conservation effort associated with climate change yet the conservative/denier pushback continues since they insist on making it a political issue when it can plainly be reduced to simple conservation.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-28 12:36:58
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Jetackuu said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
let's leave cigarettes out of this. *** yuppies already have me paying 20$ a pack for no reason.
should be 40

*** your mother.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 12:39:15
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
As for the *** you posted: it seems like the corporations that are reaping profits out the *** are going to pass the tax to the end consumer, instead of cutting into their ridiculously high bottom line (like they should).

Not to mention that I've always considered regular gas taxes to be asinine in the first place, and an unstable state based income (hello problems the Governator had).

That's not even getting into the stupidity that is carbon credits, but hey.
Let me ask you this then: Do you consider a 7% Net Profit to be, as you put it, a ridiculously high bottom line?

Heck, they pay federal income tax at a higher percentage then that.

Oh wait, I forgot, you believe that they don't pay federal income tax......

Considering that's still like 32 billion dollars (if the source I just looked up quick is accurate, don't really care to double check it with this massive headache).

http://news.exxonmobil.com/press-release/exxon-mobil-corporation-announces-estimated-fourth-quarter-2013-results

I'm sure it's probably in your report too, but too lazy to read the whole thing.
You have the Cliff's notes version.

7% net income is still 7% net income. That means that for every $1 they receive, 93 cents is automatically taken as part of their expenses.

Not exactly "reaping profits" or have a "ridiculously high bottom line."

Most companies can't grow on only a 7% profit. Exxon Mobil can because of the amount of business they do, but it is still a smaller percentage than the average business does.

But let me ask you this, since you consider businesses to be bad and evil: What makes them evil, and how do you quantify it? Remember that your answer cannot include any human factors in it, as it has been stated many times that corporations and companies are not human. You have to quantify evil by removing the humans out of it.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:41:16
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
let's leave cigarettes out of this. *** yuppies already have me paying 20$ a pack for no reason.
should be 40

*** your mother.
You can if you want, but I honestly can't recommend doing so.

fine, $80 a pack.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:41:53
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
As for the *** you posted: it seems like the corporations that are reaping profits out the *** are going to pass the tax to the end consumer, instead of cutting into their ridiculously high bottom line (like they should).

Not to mention that I've always considered regular gas taxes to be asinine in the first place, and an unstable state based income (hello problems the Governator had).

That's not even getting into the stupidity that is carbon credits, but hey.
Let me ask you this then: Do you consider a 7% Net Profit to be, as you put it, a ridiculously high bottom line?

Heck, they pay federal income tax at a higher percentage then that.

Oh wait, I forgot, you believe that they don't pay federal income tax......

Considering that's still like 32 billion dollars (if the source I just looked up quick is accurate, don't really care to double check it with this massive headache).

http://news.exxonmobil.com/press-release/exxon-mobil-corporation-announces-estimated-fourth-quarter-2013-results

I'm sure it's probably in your report too, but too lazy to read the whole thing.
You have the Cliff's notes version.

7% net income is still 7% net income. That means that for every $1 they receive, 93 cents is automatically taken as part of their expenses.

Not exactly "reaping profits" or have a "ridiculously high bottom line."

Most companies can't grow on only a 7% profit. Exxon Mobil can because of the amount of business they do, but it is still a smaller percentage than the average business does.

But let me ask you this, since you consider businesses to be bad and evil: What makes them evil, and how do you quantify it? Remember that your answer cannot include any human factors in it, as it has been stated many times that corporations and companies are not human. You have to quantify evil by removing the humans out of it.

I don't give a *** if it's .01%, 32 billion dollars is reaping profits.

I'd say polluting the world, and avoiding taxes that are levied against you for that pollution is a pretty good indicator of not being "good" but we're getting into some fuzzy ***here.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-28 12:42:08
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I honestly can't recommend doing so.

she wasn't that good?

I don't mind...
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:43:34
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Solar energy in its current form has trade offs. They aren't environment friendly to make, and they don't have a very long lifespan before needing replacement.

Yet it's getting better all the time, like the research Solyndra did, makes them use a fraction of the silicon in the process, unfortunately prices for that dropped right when they finished, and they couldn't compete anymore, so they went under. But you know "conspiracy" etc.
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By fonewear 2014-08-28 12:44:16
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Extra nicotine in my cigarettes please !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 12:45:33
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You act like solar energy is a conservative ideal lol... It's not. It's also dependent on where you live, how much land you have and if you have the capital to make the initial investment. Some people are blocked by simple HOA by-laws. Oh well sorry you can't install those in the front of your home... Oh you can't get enough light on the back? Too bad!
Didn't say that it was. I was trying to show judgmental reasoning in why conservatives install this.

Liberals do it to be all touchy/feely and think they are saving the world.

Conservatives are more practical and do this to conserve costs and energy consumption, sometimes even providing energy to the community.

I'm sorry that you automatically assumed that I was making this into a conservative only idea.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-28 12:45:44
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Jetackuu said: »
I honestly can't recommend doing so.

she wasn't that good?

I don't mind...
Not as good as yours.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 12:48:40
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
No, conservatives install solar panels and other alternative energy equipment on their property to reduce their energy bill.

In some cases (like mine, but only because I have enough property to do it) we sell the energy back to the company/county. My investment will be paid off next year.

Has nothing to do with the perceived science of global warming or climate science that this technology is in connection with. Pure expense reduction and/or additional income.
Mmm, wasn't the point but regardless, this point could be extended to any conservation effort associated with climate change yet the conservative/denier pushback continues since they insist on making it a political issue when it can plainly be reduced to simple conservation.
All we ask is undeniable proof that climate change is not a natural occurring event, is 100% man made, and the policies in place would reverse (assuming) said man made events. Scientists have yet to even provide any of these three requests, and that's why most of us are skeptical of the whole science.

You are trying to force this down our throats before you can prove anything. That is just as bad as passing a law just to read what's in it.....oh wai....
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