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Random Politics & Religion #00
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:01:27
There's no form of I don't want to adopt, but I want a child of my own.
You have to admit it's an incredibly selfish mindset.
"I have love to give, but not to that wretched cast-off child; obviously his mother didn't want him for a reason, amirite?" It's ok man. I understand that it conflicts with your core beliefs.
By volkom 2015-04-06 14:05:07
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Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:05:09
Nothing more for you being a picky little ***today, no. How is it being picky when you seem to have completely disregarded the article you wanted to "get back to"? lol...
The majority of us are in and or are familiar with the U.S. I didn't call it the "sole offender". But it applies.
Like I said. You're just being a nitpicker.
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-04-06 14:06:31
There's no form of I don't want to adopt, but I want a child of my own.
You have to admit it's an incredibly selfish mindset.
"I have love to give, but not to that wretched cast-off child; obviously his mother didn't want him for a reason, amirite?" It is selfish. So? No one has a personal obligation to look after someone elses child. We do as a society, which we do a pretty horrible job of, but not a personal obligation.
You'd be better off working out some idea on how to reduce the number of unwanted children to begin with.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:08:59
You'd be better off working out some idea on how to reduce the number of unwanted children to begin with. Send them off to war.
By volkom 2015-04-06 14:09:50
we should have a personal obligation to tell the annoying whiny shits to be quiet and sit still in a restaurant or at least get their parents to.
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Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-04-06 14:12:48
Nothing more for you being a picky little ***today, no. How is it being picky when you seem to have completely disregarded the article you wanted to "get back to"? lol...
The majority of us are in and or are familiar with the U.S. I didn't call it the "sole offender". But it applies.
Like I said. You're just being a nitpicker. Do you even read your own posts? You specifically listed the U.S. outsourcing surrogacy to India a sthe issue and the article in question didn't even mention em. The article itself had more to do with India itself and the lack of regulation it has regarding surrogacy and the pitfalls related. That seemed to range from issues that from technicalites that prevent couples from obtaining said babies, the poor treatment of women and the social stigma it carries as well as issues of fears of treating children as commodities by picking and choosing in some situations.
You seemed to have made it about something more personal to you than anything.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:12:57
You'd be better off working out some idea on how to reduce the number of unwanted children to begin with.
Birth control, education, reducing the stigmatization of abortion, cutting cultural and religious pressure to breed like rabbits, stop incentivizing having children through tax benefits and the like...the list goes on.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:13:48
You seemed to have made it about something more personal to you than anything.
And when I tried to redirect you went right back to nitpicking me instead of discussing the article, so...sod off.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:14:37
Nothing more for you being a picky little ***today, no. How is it being picky when you seem to have completely disregarded the article you wanted to "get back to"? lol...
The majority of us are in and or are familiar with the U.S. I didn't call it the "sole offender". But it applies.
Like I said. You're just being a nitpicker. Do you even read your own posts? You specifically listed the U.S. outsourcing surrogacy to India a sthe issue and the article in question didn't even mention em. The article itself had more to do with India itself and the lack of regulation it has regarding surrogacy and the pitfalls related. That seemed to range from issues that from technicalites that prevent couples from obtaining said babies, the poor treatment of women and the social stigma it carries as well as issues of fears of treating children as commodities by picking and choosing in some situations.
You seemed to have made it about something more personal to you than anything. And Oprah.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:15:12
I never brought that *** into anything.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:15:47
You'd be better off working out some idea on how to reduce the number of unwanted children to begin with.
Birth control, education, reducing the stigmatization of abortion, cutting cultural and religious pressure to breed like rabbits, stop incentivizing having children through tax benefits and the like...the list goes on. That seems like a lot of work no one is really willing to do.
Let's just send them over to Iraq.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:17:10
I hear Kony could use more children. Tell him to pony up.
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Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-04-06 14:17:19
You'd be better off working out some idea on how to reduce the number of unwanted children to begin with.
Birth control, education, reducing the stigmatization of abortion, cutting cultural and religious pressure to breed like rabbits, stop incentivizing having children through tax benefits and the like...the list goes on. I suggested to go work on it not regurgitate ideas we've all discussed here before and are aware of.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:17:30
Let's just send them over to Iraq.
Nope.
I hear Kony could use more children. Tell him to pony up.
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-04-06 14:18:29
You seemed to have made it about something more personal to you than anything.
And when I tried to redirect you went right back to nitpicking me instead of discussing the article, so...sod off. You tried to redirect into something that was never there in the first place?
Just because someone doesn't agree with you or isn't saying something you like doesn't mean that they are nitpicking you. I simply pointed the obvious out.
By volkom 2015-04-06 14:26:06
Why can't parents who want a kid have a kid. If they want their genetic goop in the child then they should have the option to birth it naturally or through a surrogate mom. If they just want a kid, then they should adopt.
As for the surrogate mom, its her body and she should be fully aware of the risks and complications involved before doing so. It shouldn't be a profession but should be a medical option w/ an agreement with a willing person. But if people just have kids with no desire to keep them, then they should be liable to support the child until adulthood even if they aren't living together
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:27:30
Missing out on a golden opportunity.
Warlords needs soldiers, the children need some place to go, gotta free up the resources they're using up with no decent future in sight, and the U.S. desperately needs money. I don't think you're going to find a better solution.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:32:27
Mandatory military service for kids who turn 18 that aren't adopted. Keeps them from turning to a life of crime on the streets.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 14:40:37
Mandatory military service for kids who turn 18 that aren't adopted. Keeps them from turning to a life of crime on the streets.
Mandatory military service for all!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-04-06 14:42:31
Mandatory military service for kids who turn 18 that aren't adopted. Keeps them from turning to a life of crime on the streets.
Well, while we're on authoritarian methods, why not go to India and procure us some children? Apaches, Black Hawks and soldiers all with one objective at hand: To kidnap as many children as possible and bring them to the United States! Brown children for every American. It's out GOD GIVEN duty to imbue these children with the tenets of:
-Freedom
-Democracy
-Liberty
-Crippling Obesity
-Diabetes
-Heart Failure
And that my friends is a mission I'd enlist for.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 14:56:56
Use what you have first.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-04-06 14:59:27
We're busy trying to get rid of them all. Why else do you think we use Chemtrails, poison the water, put preservatives in food and elect Democrats to office.
Phase II of repopulating America has begun.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-06 15:06:07
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
We're busy trying to get rid of them all. Why else do you think we use Chemtrails, poison the water, put preservatives in food and elect Democrats to office.
Phase II of repopulating America has begun.
It's all an elaborate ploy; it's been eight centuries in the making, but we're going to put god damn Indians in North America, just where we Europeans said they'd be.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 15:19:04
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »We're busy trying to get rid of them all. Why else do you think we use Chemtrails, poison the water, put preservatives in food and elect Democrats to office.
Phase II of repopulating America has begun. It's all an elaborate ploy; it's been eight centuries in the making, but we're going to put god damn Indians in North America, just where we Europeans said they'd be.
QFT.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 15:25:55
Summary of today's discussion:
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-04-06 15:46:15
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By fonewear 2015-04-06 17:21:09
I hear Kony could use more children. Tell him to pony up.
Speaking of Kony:
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By fonewear 2015-04-06 17:23:50
Mandatory military service for kids who turn 18 that aren't adopted. Keeps them from turning to a life of crime on the streets.
Mandatory military service for all!
Long as I can kill all the Arabs I can stand till I can stands no more !
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By fonewear 2015-04-06 17:33:49
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
We're busy trying to get rid of them all. Why else do you think we use Chemtrails, poison the water, put preservatives in food and elect Democrats to office.
Phase II of repopulating America has begun.
It's all an elaborate ploy; it's been eight centuries in the making, but we're going to put god damn Indians in North America, just where we Europeans said they'd be.
Thank you, come again !
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