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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:55:43
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Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.

What *** truth was there?

That this woman was uncomfortable with someone different from her and she threw a hissy fit?

The truth that a man doesn't belong in a woman's locker room.

Hey those are gender fighting words !
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:57:09
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I don't expect you to know everything I've ever said, but you hardly ever put any thought into what I say.

Inversely, by merely speaking to you, most of us around here give entirely too much thought to what you say, and goad you into saying more.

You're a *** throwback, Nausi. And you're stupid enough to take that as a complement, I'm sure.
And there we go again. Attempt to have a conversation with you and it almost instantly degrades into insults. You have no patience for discussion. It almost like your brain has an aversion to critical thinking.

Nausi, there's nothing left to say with you.

Just because you're not actively practicing a religion doesn't mean you're not holding to idiotic, old-fashioned notions clung to by religions. All you know how to do is stand around playing your thinly-veiled Men's Rights *** like you're actually somehow oppressed by anyone or anything.

"Oh no, my precious freedoms are being eroded!"

No. No they *** aren't. Get over yourself.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 10:57:32
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Gay people can already get married, they just need to get married like the rest of us do, (to a person of the opposite sex). Marriage means something, I support what it means. It really doesn't mean I don't think gay people should be afforded protections like those strait people do through marriage, but it isn't "marriage". They shouldn't be allowed to force everyone else to affirm their lifestyle by forcing them to recognize it as a "marriage".

Historically, marriage was a union of families for the purpose of diplomacy. Even in the west, marriage wasn't an official relationship outside of monarchy until just a few hundred years ago. If you're arguing for what "marriage" means, it's literally the joining of two or more entities. It's not defined as a religious or legal contract and the gender and quantity of participants isn't mentioned outside of extremely contemporary laws.

So, if 20 years from now, some minority or zealots decide they're going to define marriage as the union of a one man and one squirrel and declare that you are welcome to get married just like the rest of them, I'm sure you'd pitch a fit over that.

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Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.

What *** truth was there?

That this woman was uncomfortable with someone different from her and she threw a hissy fit?

The truth that a man doesn't belong in a woman's locker room.

And you get to decide what constitutes a man or woman?
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:58:39
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.

What *** truth was there?

That this woman was uncomfortable with someone different from her and she threw a hissy fit?

The truth that a man doesn't belong in a woman's locker room.

The truth is that she's not a man in her eyes, and as such isn't any more of a threat to anyone in there than they are to her, and statistically speaking, chances are that she's in bigger danger going into the men's room than anyone else could ever be with her in the women's room.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:01:19
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And you get to decide what constitutes a man or woman?

Just don't bother. He's going to do the extremely literal "biologically a man means a man no matter what, duh!" argument and won't be moved.

The past century of psychological, sexual, and neurochemical research and advancement has no place in Nausi's world. It's not simply digested into easy-to-understand soundbites, so he's elected to just be against it on principle.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:03:56
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How can you guys talk about Hillary when there is a Planet Fitness transgender scandal !


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/planet-fitness-revokes-womans-membership-transgender-complaint/story?id=29465983




A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.

Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man."

The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today.

"I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure."

Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said.

"And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said.

"He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'"

When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies.

"I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man."

She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled."

On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately.

"They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it."

Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."

The statement continued, "The manner in which this member expressed her concerns about the policy exhibited behavior that management at the Midland club deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was cancelled."

Gosselin added, "As our statement outlines, her membership was not cancelled as a result of complaints about our policy, as we welcome all feedback from our members. Rather, it was the manner in which her concerns were expressed that club management felt was inappropriate, which resulted in the cancellation."
Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.
Wait, I thought we had this discussion already. Women would never get upset seeing a man who identifies as a woman in their bathroom/changing room.

She must be a bigot for not accepting his identification as a woman.
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:04:47
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There will be no justice till Obama passes a transgender bathroom law !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:06:56
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 11:07:47
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

Biology has a pretty flexible view of gender, bud. Might want to do some research.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-03-09 11:08:08
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I support Planet Fitness' decision to kick out all annoying people.... the other members don't want to listen to people endlessly gripe about ***while they are trying to spin class yoga...or whatever

if she wants to protest she can go paint a *** sign and stand outside like all the other half wits....
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:08:37
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Wait, I thought we had this discussion already. Women would never get upset seeing a man who identifies as a woman in their bathroom/changing room.

She must be a bigot for not accepting his identification as a woman.

Again. It'd just be a damn shame if people had to stop and take half a second to consider maybe the world doesn't revolve around them and maybe that person has every right that they do to be there.

I get upset when I drive down the road and see private business with Christian scripture quoted on their signs. Do I go in and tell them how to handle their business?

No. I just don't give them any business.

If this woman doesn't like that this gym embraces open-mindedness among its clients, she is free to go the *** away.

This is that free market you people love so much at play, isn't it?
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:08:39
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

But Biology can't tell your body how to feel Chaos ! It's about feeling and touching and rubbing !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:10:14
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

Biology has a pretty flexible view of gender, bud. Might want to do some research.
XX and XY. Wow that's pretty flexible.
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:10:23
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Sometimes I feel like a girl especially when I watch Lifetime movies.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:11:15
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
XX and XY. Wow that's pretty flexible.


Again with the ignoraning decades upon decades of research into psychological and neurological fields just to try to play the simple genetics card.

It's an awfully simple genetic mechanism in the formation of life that flips the penis-or-not switch. And those same things go into developing our psyche and the way we think and feel. Not to mention all the various mutations those genes can undergo.

The human body as a whole, however, is quite complex.

Sometimes all those biological switches don't turn in the same direction. That's really all there is to it.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:12:09
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

But Biology can't tell your body how to feel Chaos ! It's about feeling and touching and rubbing !
Do you even feel, bro?

Thank god I don't have to deal with this stuff, lol.

It's funny how warped the American liberal mind has become.
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:12:39
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I'm going to start using women's restroom if they complain I'll just say I identify myself as a woman.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 11:13:55
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

Biology has a pretty flexible view of gender, bud. Might want to do some research.
XX and XY. Wow that's pretty flexible.

Mammals make up a nearly non-existent portion of the biological spectrum, and gender isn't a rigid archetype across 99%+ of biology. Did you forget there are also XXY humans and humans born with multiple genitalia?
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:15:07
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Not like women are doing anything in there I haven't watched on the internet anyways !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:16:21
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XXY is a mutation. It only takes one sperm cell and one egg to create life. When biology has mutated enough where it requires 3 or more sets of chromosomes to create life (egg, sperm, and other), I'll buy into this nonsense. Until then have fun.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:16:51
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Biology, no longer an indicator of gender. Wow. From people who supposedly preach tolerance and science, just wow.

But Biology can't tell your body how to feel Chaos ! It's about feeling and touching and rubbing !
Do you even feel, bro?

Thank god I don't have to deal with this stuff, lol.

It's funny how warped the American liberal mind has become.

Chaosx, the nationality hipster.

Still an American, but downplaying it like a mofo and acting like he's somehow better.
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:17:03
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Chaos you need to feel more and think less !

My body tells me a Hispanic woman living in a male body. I'm just waiting for the right moment to escape !
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:17:36
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Chaos you need to feel more and think less !

In this instance, I don't think he can put any less thought into things.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 11:18:15
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XXY is a mutation. It only takes one sperm cell and one egg to create life. When biology has mutated enough where it requires 3 or more sets of chromosomes to create life (egg, sperm, and other), I'll buy into this nonsense. Until then have fun.

Mutations and genetic defects are common.

Look at Down's alone, for ***'s sake.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 11:18:30
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XXY is a mutation. It only takes one sperm cell and one egg to create life. When biology has mutated enough where it requires 3 or more sets of chromosomes to create life (egg, sperm, and other), I'll buy into this nonsense. Until then have fun.

Spoken by someone who clearly has no understanding of genetics or mutation...
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 11:21:31
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We didn't have Biology in school it was replaced with Women's History.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-09 11:21:50
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wow slow news day. one of you guys do out & do something super stupid, you'll make the news today, & we can all have a good laugh.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:25:02
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Ramyrez said: »
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Chaos you need to feel more and think less !

In this instance, I don't think he can put any less thought into things.
Nobody is putting any thought into this. It's all about feelings.

Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
XXY is a mutation. It only takes one sperm cell and one egg to create life. When biology has mutated enough where it requires 3 or more sets of chromosomes to create life (egg, sperm, and other), I'll buy into this nonsense. Until then have fun.

Mutations and genetic defects are common.

Look at Down's alone, for ***'s sake.
Defect being the key word.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-09 11:25:58
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fonewear said: »
We didn't have Biology in school it was replaced with Women's History.
Sounds like college.
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