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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-18 14:57:22
So when you get cancer essentially your body has initiated a coup, the chemotherapy are the WMDs you've decided to use despite Obama drawing a red line on that type of funny business and McCain wants to arm the rebels who are in this case trying to destabilize your body.
By fonewear 2015-02-18 14:57:35
I am a lot nicer when I'm drunk. I feel at one with the world.
Sorta like this:
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-18 15:00:07
Altima and I aren't fighting. I *must* be sober. No, you are sober when you are fighting.
You must be drunk since you aren't.
At least we know you aren't a mean drunk... As much as I get red-faced from alcohol consumption, and the amount of it I can consume, and have consumed in the past (4 full pitchers of Molson Canadian, 2 shots of tequila, 12 straight shots of rum, roughly 12 rum n cokes, and other miscellaneous drinks) I've never been drunk.
Edit: That was all in a single night of roughly 3-4 hours of partying for a friend's 18th birthday before we traipsed across the street to a strip club.
By fonewear 2015-02-18 15:02:46
Or this:
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By fonewear 2015-02-18 15:03:59
I've actually driven a lawn mower drunk it was as amazing as you expect it would be !
By Altimaomega 2015-02-18 15:04:24
That was sarcasm? I can tell with most people, but for you, sometimes it's hard to tell.
Because certain posters on this site berate me and turn my sarcasm into what they can use against me. Of all people you should understand this the most. I do understand it, but I also understand that you have made posts that would not make what you said sarcastic but an actual point. That's why I'm questioning it.
Wanna point one of those out? I'm sure it was me against 6 people and my words got twisted as usual. Here you go
What exactly is wrong with my statement other than I pointed out why people have been comparing you to Pleebo? For one thing, you used the CDC information wrong, for another thing, you accused me of failing to understand your point, which you failed to understand yourself. You still countered later that vaccines are bad and that we shouldn't give them to children, even though the immunities from vaccines do not get passed to children that way. The CDC that you linked even stated as such.
I was trying to be polite to you at the time and drop it, but you ended up insulting me later on by calling me a libertard....
My whole point was to point out Vacs immunities are passed to children. Quote: After receiving the whooping cough vaccine, your body will create protective antibodies (proteins produced by the body to fight off diseases) and pass some of them to your baby before birth. That was literally the first thing that poped up in my search.
I later said Not All Vaccines are bad, but when do we draw the line that too much is being given to children at such young age's. I didn't call you a libertard.. I just stated why other people have been.. Problem is, that's not how vaccines work. What is passed from the mother to the child is protective proteins but not the actual white blood cells that know what to fight when the virus gets into the system.
To put it in warring terms, let's say that your body is a country, and the virus is an invading army. What the mother gives you through birth are brick walls. What your body provides during the invasion are tanks to battle the invading army.
I know that this is a poor example, and somebody would probably explain this better than me, but I hope you get the general idea.
So you are saying baby's are unable to make tanks to defend the brick walls the mother has provided. I'm not a doctor.. but that sounds totally wrong. It was a decent analogy just not correct.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-18 15:07:06
That was sarcasm? I can tell with most people, but for you, sometimes it's hard to tell.
Because certain posters on this site berate me and turn my sarcasm into what they can use against me. Of all people you should understand this the most. I do understand it, but I also understand that you have made posts that would not make what you said sarcastic but an actual point. That's why I'm questioning it.
Wanna point one of those out? I'm sure it was me against 6 people and my words got twisted as usual. Here you go
What exactly is wrong with my statement other than I pointed out why people have been comparing you to Pleebo? For one thing, you used the CDC information wrong, for another thing, you accused me of failing to understand your point, which you failed to understand yourself. You still countered later that vaccines are bad and that we shouldn't give them to children, even though the immunities from vaccines do not get passed to children that way. The CDC that you linked even stated as such.
I was trying to be polite to you at the time and drop it, but you ended up insulting me later on by calling me a libertard....
My whole point was to point out Vacs immunities are passed to children. Quote: After receiving the whooping cough vaccine, your body will create protective antibodies (proteins produced by the body to fight off diseases) and pass some of them to your baby before birth. That was literally the first thing that poped up in my search.
I later said Not All Vaccines are bad, but when do we draw the line that too much is being given to children at such young age's. I didn't call you a libertard.. I just stated why other people have been.. Problem is, that's not how vaccines work. What is passed from the mother to the child is protective proteins but not the actual white blood cells that know what to fight when the virus gets into the system.
To put it in warring terms, let's say that your body is a country, and the virus is an invading army. What the mother gives you through birth are brick walls. What your body provides during the invasion are tanks to battle the invading army.
I know that this is a poor example, and somebody would probably explain this better than me, but I hope you get the general idea.
So you are saying baby's are unable to make tanks to defend the brick walls the mother has provided. I'm not a doctor.. but that sounds totally wrong. It was a decent analogy just not correct. Let me ask you this then: What fights the virus; the proteins or the white blood cells?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-18 15:07:55
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »So when you get cancer essentially your body has initiated a coup, the chemotherapy are the WMDs you've decided to use despite Obama drawing a red line on that type of funny business and McCain wants to arm the rebels who are in this case trying to destabilize your body. Look, I tried to make a reasonable analogy that would be simple to understand and that's the first thing that pop'd in my mind.
I even said that it was a poor example too....
By Bloodrose 2015-02-18 15:09:05
Clearly misread.
Also plural is "babies"
What he's saying, is that the white blood cells (tanks) are provided by the body. The protective proteins (the brick walls) transferred from mother to in-utero child are there to supplement the defenses and offenses of the white blood cells by protecting the white cells and showing them what is to be eliminated.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-02-18 15:35:02
Breast milk contains a range of immune cells, including white blood cells. Immune proteins and cells work in a concerted effort to stave off infection. It's not really an either/or type thing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-18 15:48:55
Breast milk contains a range of immune cells, including white blood cells. Immune proteins and cells work in a concerted effort to stave off infection. It's not really an either/or type thing.
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By fonewear 2015-02-18 15:49:52
Breast milk contains a range of immune cells, including white blood cells. Immune proteins and cells work in a concerted effort to stave off infection. It's not really an either/or type thing.
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By fonewear 2015-02-18 15:57:18
Not that you should( you definitely should) search breastfeeding on youtube and read the comments
It makes P and R looks somewhat sophisticated and civil by comparison !
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2015-02-18 16:10:58
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-18 16:39:09
search breastfeeding on youtube Wait, wouldn't that be porn?
By Bloodrose 2015-02-18 16:56:33
search breastfeeding on youtube Wait, wouldn't that be porn? Depends on context of the video. Most mothers who breastfeed do so privately, or cover up under a blanket.
However, in the context of filming, the purpose would be to show the act in a pornographic context rather than maternal.
By fonewear 2015-02-18 17:22:09
search breastfeeding on youtube Wait, wouldn't that be porn?
No but it should be !
By fonewear 2015-02-18 17:40:54
Obama we aren't at war....yet !
As always let Hillary deal with the terrorists.
Love how people are dying in record amounts in Middle East and headline news is anti vaccination and how damn cold it is in winter !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-18 17:46:32
Love how people are dying record amounts in Middle East and headline news is anti vaccination and how damn cold it is in winter !
I wish I ran a clickbait news site. I would change your words to say, "Scientists say vaccines are causing record deaths in the Middle East due to the Common Cold."
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By fonewear 2015-02-18 17:49:40
Buzzfeed leads the nation in click bait.
By Jetackuu 2015-02-18 18:51:21
Knowingly putting a child at risk for an infection outside of a controlled situation by doctors is negligence at best. So whenever someone takes their kids shopping, to a movie, to school playing outside, to a public restroom anywhere people are they are being negligent? YouTube Video Placeholder
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-18 20:18:51
Let's go steal some smallpox samples from the CDC and have smallpox parties for all the neighborhood children. That'll show Big Medicine who's boss!
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-18 20:25:24
Let's go steal some smallpox samples from the CDC and have smallpox parties for all the neighborhood children. That'll show Big Medicine who's boss! Mmmmm... that's good sarcasm!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-19 07:45:52
More than 40% of the donors in Clinton's campaign are foreigners
Quote: More than 40 percent of the top donors to the Clinton family foundation are based in foreign countries, which could lead to conflict-of-interest questions for Hillary Clinton as she prepares to launch her campaign for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.
The charity that now bears Hillary Clinton’s name along with her husband and daughter has received millions of dollars in donations from foreign governments, businesses, individuals and nongovernment organizations around the globe, according to an analysis of 10 years of contributions by McClatchy. Many of them gave as recently as 2014.
The governments of Saudi Arabia and Norway each contributed $10 million to $25 million.
Mohammed Al-Amoudi, a billionaire businessman who lives in Ethiopia and Saudi Arabia, retired German race car driver Michael Schumacher, and Denis O’Brien, the Irish chairman of Digicel phone company, each donated between $5 million and $10 million.
A London-based children’s charity and a Nairobi-based organization trying to improving agriculture in Africa each gave between $1 million and $5 million.
Canada’s Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development agency gave between $250,000 and $500,000 last year. The government agency is pushing for approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, which had been under review by the State Department when Hillary Clinton was secretary.
In total, at least 70 of the 168 donors contributing more than $1 million each are foreign individuals or entities. Twenty-one of them contributed in 2014.
Of the seven top donors giving more than $25 million each, four were foreign.
Hillary Clinton, 67, is already the presumed front-runner for her party’s nomination, though she continues to be dogged by complaints about her high-priced speeches and ties to Wall Street.
Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in New York, said the foreign donations or “everything that looks like big bucks” will make it more difficult for Clinton to relate to the middle-class voters she needs to woo.
“As much as she wants to build a firewall between her and the foundation, it’s not going to work when perception is nine-tenths of politics,” he said.
“The Clinton Foundation is a philanthropy, period,” said Craig Minassian, chief communications officer for the foundation.
“As with other global charities, the Clinton Foundation receives the support of individuals, organizations and governments from all over the world because our programs are improving the lives of millions of people by strengthening health systems, improving access to lifesaving medicines, helping communities confront the effects of climate change, creating economic opportunity and reducing childhood obesity and other preventable diseases,” Minassian said.
“The bottom line: These contributions are helping improve the lives of millions of people across the world for which we are grateful,” he said.
Hillary Clinton’s personal spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that the foundation began accepting foreign donations again after reducing that number considerably after Clinton left the secretary of state’s office.
“The alarming rate at which these contributions are now coming in presents a massive conflict-of-interest problem for her,” said Michael Short, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee. “When that 3 a.m. phone call comes, do voters really want to have a president on the line who took truckloads of cash from other countries? Absolutely not.”
America Rising, a conservative opposition research group, called on the Clinton Foundation to return all its donations from foreign governments and pledge not to accept them in the future.
Foreign nationals have been prohibited from donating money to U.S. campaigns since 1966, though government watchdog groups say that elections may be vulnerable to foreign influence through new committees whose donations are secret.
Foreign contributions to charities such as the Clinton Foundation are allowed.
Sheila Krumholz, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, which studies money in politics, said it’s easier than ever for foreign individuals to influence a U.S. campaign through groups that are not required to disclose their donors. But she said the Clinton Foundation is of slightly less concern because it has disclosed the names of their donors.
Still, she said, there is a potential problem with foreign donors to the foundation. “There are a lot of high-rolling foreign donors,” she said. “This isn’t a boys or girls club. This is a major international force.”
Former President Bill Clinton founded the charity, then called the William J. Clinton Foundation, in 2001 to address issues around the world, including health care, climate change and economic development.
The foundation agreed to disclose the names of donors after President Barack Obama tapped Clinton to be secretary of state in 2009 to address questions about potential conflicts of interest between fundraising and her role as the nation’s top diplomat. It also agreed to a closer review of donations from foreign entities, which led to few donations from overseas.
After leaving the State Department in 2013, Clinton joined the foundation, which changed its name to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation after the couple and their daughter.
Pat Griffin, a legislative director in Bill Clinton’s administration who serves as the academic director for the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies at American University, said the donors are giving to the foundation because of the work it does.
“It’s hard to imagine it’s to get credit and chits with Clinton,” he said. “They are principally giving for what it does. That gets lost in this debate.”
But Giffin said Clinton would have to come up with a way to separate herself from the foreign donations to the foundation if she runs for president.
The foundation is not required to publicly release its donors. A foundation spokesman said that the organization continued to release donor information after Clinton left the State Department to be transparent.
The foundation website indicated that 65,499 individuals or entities donated since 2004, though it does not include exact donation amounts; does not give dates beyond indicating who gave in 2014; and does not identify information about the donors such as addresses or employers.
The list includes many of the Clintons’ longtime friends and political supporters and prominent Democratic donors as well as the foreign individuals and entities.
Donors that gave between $500,000 to $1 million include the Alibaba Group, a Chinese e-commerce company that provides sales services; the Taiwan Economic and Cultural Office; and two British banks, Barclays PLC and HSBC Holdings, that have been under investigation by the Justice Department.
I'm sure this is perfectly ok to do with the usual liberals, since Clinton is the one accepting the donations. God forbid if this happens to a Republican....
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-02-19 07:46:41
She's a woman of the people, King.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-19 07:51:59
Never mind that she has already raised at least $260 million from foreign donors. That amount could very easily be over $500 million.
Romney raised a total of $992 million for the 2012 election. Obama raised just over a billion.
Clinton has raised a fourth of those amounts just on foreign money alone. Conflicts of interest anyone?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-19 08:25:00
I spoke about price tags on public service elections and how it is a misrepresentation for the american people and holds more power of influence and recognition of favored party's.
Money should be taken out of elections. Only the american people's vote should choose who represents with free and fair elections. Does anyone else find it disturbing that only millionaire and billionaires are serving? Wake up and stop voting for Republicans and Democrats.
By fonewear 2015-02-19 08:44:10
Obama is holding a three day summit to stop ISIS. On the 4th day he will come riding in a white horse to personally stop them.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-02-19 08:46:33
Wake up and stop voting for Republicans and Democrats.
So... Liberals, then?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-19 08:46:41
I spoke about price tags on public service elections and how it is a misrepresentation for the american people and holds more power of influence and recognition of favored party's. You mentioned it, but like everything else you talk about, you fail to grasp the actual problem, which is the amount of money being donated to these people.
You are focusing only on the wealth of the candidate, while everyone else is focusing on the contributions to the candidate...
Money should be taken out of elections. So, how else are people supposed to get informed opinions on the candidates again? By your opinion, they should go back to the old way where people are told who to vote for by interested individuals, instead of having the candidate's message go straight to the voter. Isn't that counterproductive to your argument?
Only the american people's vote should choose who represents with free and fair elections. Tell us again that the wealthy are the only one's controlling the vote, so we can laugh at your face again.
Does anyone else find it disturbing that only millionaire and billionaires are serving? So? Are you saying that wealthy and successful individuals are not qualified to lead, and some homeless drug addict is more qualified than a successful businesswoman?
Wake up and stop voting for Republicans and Democrats. Like who? Libertarians are more xenophobic than Rs and Ds. Socialists/Fascists are more controlling. Any of the other independent party have no clue as to what they are doing. Then there's your party, the party of the Flower-head.
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