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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:06:32
How was that an insult again?
Edit: You know what, never mind. It's almost like talking to somebody who's sole purpose today is to try to get me banned.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-05 11:07:45
Hillary was creepy as ever.
Bernie went on an hour long spiel about campaign finance reform. A man truly after my heart. Too bad he's a socialist, or I'd totally vote for him.
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-05 11:13:32
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:19:22
Looks like another gun debate brewing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:19:43
didn't seem coherent enough to be considered journalism.
Like 99% of the partisan articles posted here. ftfy.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:25:12
Well, I haven't seen an article without partisan bias in forever, so it's all the same. Reuters articles are generally unbiased.
Rarely, CNN also.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-05 11:28:09
Fiorina left off debate stage
Quote: Carly Fiorina has been excluded from Saturday's Republican debate in Manchester, New Hampshire, ABC News announced on Thursday.
The former Hewlett-Packard CEO has lagged her GOP rivals in national and state-level polls, but she complained in an open letter to the Republican National Committee on Wednesday that the debate process is "broken" and urged the RNC to intervene on her behalf.
“Networks are making up these debate rules as they go along — not to be able to fit candidates on the stage — but arbitrarily to decide which candidates make for the best TV in their opinion," she wrote. "Now it is time for the RNC to act in the best interest of the Party that it represents.”
ABC News will not hold an undercard debate for the bottom tier of the winnowing field. Qualifications for the main debate stage included ranking among the top three in the Iowa caucuses, top six in New Hampshire polls or top six nationally.
With Fiorina excluded, the lineup for Saturday's debate includes: Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Marco Rubio, and Donald Trump.
Looks like ABC is sticking with its plan and leaving Carly Fiorina off the stage. Its probably not the right thing to do, but all she has done in the last couple of undercards is talk about her plan to reduce the tax code to 3 pages, while not including what is actually going to be in those 3 pages.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:40:25
I would point out sexism, but nobody would listen, unless ABC did something like leaving a prominent woman off the stage also...oh wait.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-05 11:50:01
Fiorina has been nearly last place in the polls. Her closest competitor was Rand Paul who dropped out.
Why does she deserve to be on stage again?? If you can barely break 5% in the polls you're already treading water.
By Altimaomega 2016-02-05 11:53:34
Looks like the A-10's stellar performance against ISIS has earned it another 3 years of service The A-10 is a Beast! They just need to make a new upgraded model and call it a day.
He was unarmed..
Altima, Finicum got what was coming to'im, and you know it. All I know is they shot a guy with his hands up after shooting at his truck.
first bad move. Second bad move was trying to force his way through a police roadblock. Third bad move was making a series of sudden moves in an attempt to draw his gun. Fourth bad move was not listening to and OBEYING police officers' orders. Do you work for the government? Why lie for them? I don't understand the hate here..
I know it's hard for you to understand, but if you present yourself as a threat to the police, you are asking to either be tasered or killed, especially if the officers in question are already sick of your ***. Yup, it's hard for me to understand why having your hands in the air is considered a threat nowadays. Even harder to believe people that are to protect and serve are so quick to shoot unarmed people.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:55:30
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Fiorina has been nearly last place in the polls. Her closest competitor was Rand Paul who dropped out.
Why does she deserve to be on stage again?? If you can barely break 5% in the polls you're already treading water. So, silence her just because?
It's not like there is any possibility for her to, you know, gain popularity. Don't forget, Cruz was at one time riding 5% of the polls at one time too. Look where it got him.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 11:59:43
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Fiorina has been nearly last place in the polls. Her closest competitor was Rand Paul who dropped out.
Why does she deserve to be on stage again?? If you can barely break 5% in the polls you're already treading water. So, silence her just because?
It's not like there is any possibility for her to, you know, gain popularity. Don't forget, Cruz was at one time riding 5% of the polls at one time too. Look where it got him. Ideally, the best way to silence Carliar Fiorina would be to try her in Colorado as an accessory to murder as part of Robert Lewis Dear's trial. How was she an accessory to the crime?
Why not just try you instead? Fiorina is just as much of an accessory to that crime as you are.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-05 11:59:48
Except we've had tons of debates already, the crowded stage does no justice to candidates who get less to time to make their case, Fiorina has had numerous debates to up her game and she's failed to meet the standard. Time to get culled.
Christie and Bush are up next. This is now practically a four way race between Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Carson.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-05 12:07:27
I would have let her debate one last time, get blown out in NH and if she didn't drop out, then yes I would have culled her from the future debates. I would do the same thing with Christie and Bush. Bush has a chance to finish higher in NH, but if he doesn't finish higher than Rubio he is done. Fiorina isn't even competitive.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-02-05 12:09:27
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Carson Pft.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-05 12:12:35
Real Clear Politics has Fiorina at an average of %2.2. That's less than Kaisch for crying out loud. Carson's at 7.8% and only has over 10% in the PPP poll.
I mean at least he can claim to be over 10% somewhere.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-05 12:19:59
I said she wasn't competitive, but I don't think the networks should decide who is in and who is out. I get that it has been hard for all of them this year to figure out a way to get 15 candidates on a debate stage while trying to remain impartial, but let the election process weed out the pretenders.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-02-05 12:33:32
Over the last nine months, Fiorina crisscrossed the state and held 138 town halls, rallies and meet-and-greets, among the most appearances for a GOP candidate.
not very informative la times article
after finishing with less than 2% of the vote Fiorina skipped her own caucus party because of an incoming blizzard.
By Altimaomega 2016-02-05 12:34:33
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/french-pm-defends-emergency-rule-says-terror-threat-124428639--business.html
Quote: PARIS (Reuters) - Thousands of house searches since November's Islamist attacks in Paris have helped foil another terrorist plot, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said on Friday as his government sought to extend emergency rule.
"The terrorist threat is here, and here to last," Valls told the National Assembly, where the government is asking lawmakers to extend the state of emergency to the end of May and amend the Constitution so people convicted on terror charges can be stripped of their citizenship.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-02-05 12:35:13
Looks like the A-10's stellar performance against ISIS has earned it another 3 years of service The A-10 is a Beast! They just need to make a new upgraded model and call it a day. Again we agree on something.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-02-05 12:47:47
Lindsey Graham: Cruz worse than Obama
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Quote: How much does Lindsey Graham dislike Ted Cruz? Count the ways.
On the question of foreign policy, the Texas senator is "just as wrong as Obama, if not worse," Graham told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday.
"In Ted Cruz's world, dictators do very well," he continued, comparing his colleague's foreign policy to that of Ron Paul, the former congressman, Republican presidential candidate and long-time leading libertarian.
Asked why his fellow senators are reputed to have such a distaste for Cruz, Graham accused the winner of the Iowa GOP caucuses of being an "opportunist" to his core -- one who "gets ahead at our expense" and will "run down other Republicans" to advance his own ambitions.
Not that Graham -- who has endorsed Jeb Bush -- is warming to Donald Trump, whose foreign policy prescriptions he described as "gibberish."
"I don't know if anybody's worse than Trump," Graham told Blitzer, rolling out a familiar burn: "If you're a Republican and your choice is Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a general election," he said, "it's the difference between poisoned or shot -- you're still dead."
What about a potential independent run by Michael Bloomberg?
Graham rejected the billionaire former New York City mayor -- who is considering a third-party run for president -- out of hand.
"I'm gonna support the Republican nominee," Graham said, and if it's Trump or Cruz, "I'm gonna buy a ticket on the Titanic."
Asked who, of the three highest-finishing GOP candidates in Iowa, he preferred, Graham chose Marco Rubio.
"Marco," he said, "has a worldview consistent with reason and reality versus the other two."
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-05 12:57:35
Quote: "I don't know if anybody's worse than Trump," Graham told Blitzer, rolling out a familiar burn: "If you're a Republican and your choice is Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a general election," he said, "it's the difference between poisoned or shot -- you're still dead."
lulz
According to this forum, a statement like this would make Lindsey Graham a liberal, Clinton supporter.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 12:58:50
What's wrong with Cruz's foreign policy stances?
Namely:
Quote: Fighting ISIS is more important than fighting Assad. (Oct 2015)
US should not engage in nation building in Afghanistan. (Oct 2015)
Don't let world courts bind American sovereignty. (Sep 2015)
Cuba is oppressive but never misses chance to propagandize. (Oct 2014)
Vigorous sanctions against Putin; help eastern Ukraine. (Jul 2014)
America is indispensable; our allies need our leadership. (Jun 2014)
Sanctions on Putin for Ukraine: tyrants respond to weakness. (Mar 2014)
US has a responsibility to defend our values abroad. (Mar 2014)
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-05 12:59:58
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-05 13:04:19
If I said what Lindsey Graham did KN, you'd call me a Hillary sycophant yet here's a senior member of the GOP calling half the lineup ***.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-05 13:07:58
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Except we've had tons of debates already, the crowded stage does no justice to candidates who get less to time to make their case, Fiorina has had numerous debates to up her game and she's failed to meet the standard. Time to get culled.
Christie and Bush are up next. This is now practically a four way race between Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Carson. Fiorina also had numerous chances to backpedal on her claims concerning a certain set of hoax videos, but didn't. Hence why she should be standing trial right next to Robert Lewis Dear, who cited her rhetoric for his mass murder.
Yes, because that makes perfect sense. If I go shooting up an orphanage and quote one of your posts while doing it, should you be tried for murder too?
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