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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-07 22:19:13
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Jassik said: »
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Hillary is a 70 year old woman and the best you got I'd making fun of her looks. Weak sauce

Trump is 69 and you've never made fun of his looks?

His hair is an abomination. I've made a lot more fun of his moronic ideas than I have of his looks. But, I've yet to hear any coherent criticisms of Hillary besides her family ties. It's all just Email, Benghazi, socialism, something about her looks, etc.

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I could go into her freebie for everyone policies for years if you like...

Please do, I'd like to know about those policies, because I haven't heard crap from her about them.
Then you haven't been reading...
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By Jassik 2015-12-07 22:20:48
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Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
Hillary is a 70 year old woman and the best you got I'd making fun of her looks. Weak sauce

Trump is 69 and you've never made fun of his looks?

His hair is an abomination. I've made a lot more fun of his moronic ideas than I have of his looks. But, I've yet to hear any coherent criticisms of Hillary besides her family ties. It's all just Email, Benghazi, socialism, something about her looks, etc.

Odin.Slore said: »
I could go into her freebie for everyone policies for years if you like...

Please do, I'd like to know about those policies, because I haven't heard crap from her about them.
Then you haven't been reading...

Apparently, she only publishes these freebie policies on neo-con "news" freakout sites?
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By Odin.Slore 2015-12-07 22:25:36
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Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
Hillary is a 70 year old woman and the best you got I'd making fun of her looks. Weak sauce

Trump is 69 and you've never made fun of his looks?

His hair is an abomination. I've made a lot more fun of his moronic ideas than I have of his looks. But, I've yet to hear any coherent criticisms of Hillary besides her family ties. It's all just Email, Benghazi, socialism, something about her looks, etc.

Odin.Slore said: »
I could go into her freebie for everyone policies for years if you like...

Please do, I'd like to know about those policies, because I haven't heard crap from her about them.
Then you haven't been reading...

Apparently, she only publishes these freebie policies on neo-con "news" freakout sites?

Your just going to blindly sing her praises anyway so what is the point exactly?
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By Jassik 2015-12-07 22:27:12
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Odin.Slore said: »
Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jassik said: »
Hillary is a 70 year old woman and the best you got I'd making fun of her looks. Weak sauce

Trump is 69 and you've never made fun of his looks?

His hair is an abomination. I've made a lot more fun of his moronic ideas than I have of his looks. But, I've yet to hear any coherent criticisms of Hillary besides her family ties. It's all just Email, Benghazi, socialism, something about her looks, etc.

Odin.Slore said: »
I could go into her freebie for everyone policies for years if you like...

Please do, I'd like to know about those policies, because I haven't heard crap from her about them.
Then you haven't been reading...

Apparently, she only publishes these freebie policies on neo-con "news" freakout sites?

Your just going to blindly sing her praises anyway so what is the point exactly?

I don't remember ever singing her praises, lol. I'm just curious what has you guys all so angry with her. Is it even real?
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By Odin.Slore 2015-12-07 22:45:10
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Jassik said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
Jassik said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Jassik said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jassik said: »
Hillary is a 70 year old woman and the best you got I'd making fun of her looks. Weak sauce

Trump is 69 and you've never made fun of his looks?

His hair is an abomination. I've made a lot more fun of his moronic ideas than I have of his looks. But, I've yet to hear any coherent criticisms of Hillary besides her family ties. It's all just Email, Benghazi, socialism, something about her looks, etc.

Odin.Slore said: »
I could go into her freebie for everyone policies for years if you like...

Please do, I'd like to know about those policies, because I haven't heard crap from her about them.
Then you haven't been reading...

Apparently, she only publishes these freebie policies on neo-con "news" freakout sites?

Your just going to blindly sing her praises anyway so what is the point exactly?

I don't remember ever singing her praises, lol. I'm just curious what has you guys all so angry with her. Is it even real?

My problem is with her policies like most democrat candidates Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing, its free everything. Now do not get me wrong, I am not anti-poor or anti-disadvantaged. I support short term welfare and assistance programs but I am a realist. I live in NY I see people living off this ***for generations, its like a family heirloom in some places. I also have family from Scotland where my Mom came from, I have seen the free healthcare at work, it has it's pluses. I on the other hand are tired of paying for this stuff and her policies are going to cost me more. Do not throw up that democrat meme where it says we pay something like $36 a year for welfare because it is dead wrong especially in NY. I do not think we need more gun control we need to enforce our laws already written. I can go on and on. Stop with free everything, what ever happened to working for what you got instead of having everything handed to you, $15 hr min wage is a prime example, lets raise the minimum wage for all these people with no education, work ethic, etc instead of people showing initiative and saying they want more than a McJob. People who do not want to work and live off the system piss me off to no extreme. Sorry
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By Odin.Slore 2015-12-07 22:46:38
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When minimum wage goes up the cost of everything goes up, which means I pay more for my goods and services because McDontwannawork refuses to get an education.
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By Jassik 2015-12-07 23:11:23
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My problem is with her policies like most democrat candidates Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing, its free everything.
I don't remember her saying free anything, those programs aren't cheap and definitely need some work. Some people abuse them, sure, but have you see the actual statistics? Most people that get assistance get it for 6 months or less.
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I also have family from Scotland where my Mom came from, I have seen the free healthcare at work, it has it's pluses.
I'm not sure what Scotland's system is like, but there's nothing that says we have to adopt anyone else's system exactly. We're already paying more than most countries with single payer healthcare, and that doesn't have to be a deprivatization. People could always purchase better insurance that covers more or gets around waits. The current system isn't working and it's miles ahead of the old system.
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I on the other hand are tired of paying for this stuff and her policies are going to cost me more. Do not throw up that democrat meme where it says we pay something like $36 a year for welfare because it is dead wrong especially in NY.
I'm going to look into that, because I've never heard of individual states costing more for federal programs. If you're talking about a state program, you really should focus on state officials, not national ones.
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I do not think we need more gun control we need to enforce our laws already written.
The ones that are already written and properly enforced in most areas would have no impact on mass shootings and do nothing to impact domestic terrorism. What laws in place that aren't being enforced are you talking about?
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I can go on and on. Stop with free everything, what ever happened to working for what you got instead of having everything handed to you, $15 hr min wage is a prime example, lets raise the minimum wage for all these people with no education, work ethic, etc instead of people showing initiative and saying they want more than a McJob. People who do not want to work and live off the system piss me off to no extreme. Sorry
I really think you have a tainted view of what those in poverty are living like. All we see on TV is a bunch of people with iPhones and XBones bitching about not being able to get a job and needing help. Those people are out there, for sure, but I've lived all over this country, and I've seen almost none of them. What I have seen are the single mothers struggling to feed their kids, people injured or disabled by corrupt companies who are unable to work, and more than a few young people who get picked up for pot at age 16, tried as adults with little or no representation, unable to get a good job because of a record.
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By Enuyasha 2015-12-07 23:15:21
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When minimum wage goes up the cost of everything goes up, which means I pay more for my goods and services because McDontwannawork refuses to get an education.
You actually pay more because corporatefuckbag doesnt want to lose profits paying his workers.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-08 05:58:46
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guardian report

Interesting leaked ISIS documents outlining plans of the Islamic state.
Two questions:

1) Did Edward Snowden leak the documents?
2) Who reads what ISIS's "master plan" is? We all know it already, it's: Kill all infidels/enforce their kind of Islam religion/rule the world by force. How hard is that?
No it's from a journalist that researched the IS for years. It is actually interesting because it outlines how they're not just some random barbarians scouring through the land, they actually aim to build a functional(in their idea)country. Obviously so far no one is recognizing said self-proclaimed country, but they have plans about economy, education, military, trade, and so forth.
It's a political manifesto of their ideal theocracy.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 07:11:28
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When minimum wage goes up the cost of everything goes up, which means I pay more for my goods and services because McDontwannawork refuses to get an education.

Oh wow, so much ignorance in one statement, kudos.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-08 07:34:28
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Trump calls to shut down Muslim immigration, and wins the internet on yet another day.

Progressive reaction....

Actually Christie called him ridiculous and J Bush demented.

So what's your point?
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 07:38:32
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Don't mind Slore. He's not a bad guy as far as I can tell. He just falls into the category of people that mistakenly believe that because they're likely being screwed over by the system themselves while working hard for a living, that people with less than them must clearly be lazy and not working as hard, therefore since they already don't have enough because of said system, they don't want to give anything up to someone they perceive as lazy.

And they're too busy working their *** off for said system to realize they're being gamed from the top down, not the bottom up.

The only thing that trickles down is the ***.

The sad irony is that Slore and people who tend to talk like he does are mad at the same exact system, they're just largely mistaken about where the blame lies because, well. That's exactly what the people sitting on fat stacks of cash and laughing at them want.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 07:40:07
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The only thing that trickles down is the ***.
Saving that.

On another note, it reminds me of the story of the cookie.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 07:41:51
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Trump calls to shut down Muslim immigration, and wins the internet on yet another day.

Progressive reaction....

Actually Christie called him ridiculous and J Bush demented.

So what's your point?

Even *** Cheney -- who is basically the icon of everything wrong with American politics and the corporate corruption that's seized it -- said Trump is being a douchenozzle*.

Pretty sure you've simply outted yourself as the scared xenophobe we've always known you to be. You're being played like a violin in a sonata we've all heard before.


*I might be paraphrasing.
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By fonewear 2015-12-08 07:43:35
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Trump is the only choice though. You want a socialist or a feminist running the country...
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 07:45:24
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Trump is the only choice though. You want a socialist or a feminist running the country...

Yes?
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 07:46:07
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Trump is the only choice though. You want a socialist or a feminist running the country...

I'd take either over Trump.
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By fonewear 2015-12-08 07:47:34
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Feminism is more dangerous than Trump though. It has ruined a generation of men.

Trump isn't dangerous no more so than Hillary.

All the crazy ***he says is just that. He probably doesn't even believe most of it. He likes the attention.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 07:49:00
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Feminism is more dangerous than Trump though. It has ruined a generation of men.

If it were anyone else, I'd probably say something more.

But I know you're just trying to watch the internet burn, so I'm not indulging you this morning.

Here. Have a picture from my favorite episode of The Simpsons instead.

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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 07:49:30
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Feminism is more dangerous than Trump though. It has ruined a generation of men.

Trump isn't dangerous no more so than Hillary.

Considering Trump could initiate the next world war, because he's an idiot, going to have to disagree sir.
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By fonewear 2015-12-08 07:50:54
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War will happen no matter who is in charge. Look at Obama he really doesn't want to send more troops to Syria but he did.


The standard is to blame the last President so you don't look like a war monger.
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 07:51:45
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War will happen no matter who is in charge. Look at Obama he really doesn't want to send more troops to Syria but he did.


The standard is to blame the last President so you don't look like a war monger.

Time will tell, won't it?
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By fonewear 2015-12-08 07:52:41
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It's going to happen my bet is sooner rather than later. The longer we wait the more troops it is going to take.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 07:52:52
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The standard is to blame the last President so you don't look like a war monger.

Do we really have to dance around the fact that Trump has literally gone full Godwin at this point and -- what's infinitely worse -- is that there are thousands of Americans vocally supporting him?
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By fonewear 2015-12-08 07:58:46
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I find it outrageous that people like Bernie Sanders have support. The young dumb college kids. Same ones paying 30k a year for a women's study degree. Those are the people that think they will get "free college". No one seems to care when he says outrageous things.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-08 08:00:17
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Edit: gonna make a new topic actually
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 08:04:49
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I find it outrageous that people like Bernie Sanders have support. The young dumb college kids. Same ones paying 30k a year for a women's study degree. Those are the people that think they will get "free college". No one seems to care when he says outrageous things.

Aside from his switch to a harsher attitude towards guns (which is more pandering than anything) what has he said that's "outrageous?"
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By Jetackuu 2015-12-08 08:05:11
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fonewear said: »
The standard is to blame the last President so you don't look like a war monger.

Do we really have to dance around the fact that Trump has literally gone full Godwin at this point and -- what's infinitely worse -- is that there are thousands of Americans vocally supporting him?

Dumb people.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-08 08:06:58
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I find outrageous that there's people who truely believe there exist anything worse than Trump.

Seriously, there's something wrong with people when they actually get behind this clown.

You can disagree with all the politicians in the world, but there's having an unfavourable party in charge and having a complete whacko that will just destroy your country.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-08 08:07:59
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I find it outrageous that people like Bernie Sanders have support. The young dumb college kids. Same ones paying 30k a year for a women's study degree. Those are the people that think they will get "free college". No one seems to care when he says outrageous things.

Aside from his switch to a harsher attitude towards guns (which is more pandering than anything) what has he said that's "outrageous?"

"Raise taxes on rich people."
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