Criminals rarely have guns over here because if they get caught they won't get a gun charge tacked on, they also don't need to worry about normal citizens shooting them
Cops don't shoot unless they really have to so that is also less of a worry
In countries like Japan and the UK they don't even carry guns
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Hey, if I lived in a house with crazy people then I wouldn't keep knives on the counter. you'd be better off moving to a different house. Jetackuu said: » That's not "troll bait" I never have trolled, try harder. Okay then. Prove it. Why do you think the UK is more *** up than America? Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Jetackuu said: » Asura.Floppyseconds said: » What doesn't add up? It is pretty established that people who don't own guns in all these other countries. Don't have these massacres like we do. Where every year or few months there is another mass shooting in the news. Those other countries are also vastly different than ours. There's a reason their frequency is increasing btw. It doesn't matter how different they are. That is not a response to countries without guns don't have massacres like America. There is no real response besides the ease of access to guns is the reason there is a ease of access to massacres. Do tell, why is their frequency going up? More crazy people? Hey, if I lived in a house with crazy people then I wouldn't keep knives on the counter. The frequency is up due to the celebrity status it gives. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Because Americans are being conditioned to fear EVERYTHING? And don't make it a left/right shitdribble. Across the board you're supposed to be completely terrified of everything. Last night I couldn't get any sleep, Vladimir Putin was cackling in my sleep in Russian. (Rants in 'Murican).
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: » In countries like Japan and the UK they don't even carry guns Small correction, but in the wake of the London Riots a few years ago the Government passed law allowing officers to carry firearms "during periods of heightened tension and/or unrest". This right has yet to be activated, but it's now in writing. Jetackuu said: » Aeyela said: » Jetackuu said: » I gave you a lot of respect, you didn't return it. Move on. Your definition of respect is as hilariously pathetic as your pro-gun views. I suppose this concludes proceedings. Don't you have your own countries problems to complain about? Guys:  Stop trying to get P+R killed. It doesn't have a gun to defend itself from the mods with.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Criminals rarely have guns over here because if they get caught they won't get a gun charge tacked on, they also don't need to worry about normal citizens shooting them there's only 10 million people over there.... that's one of our smaller cities...
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » What doesn't add up? It is pretty established that people who don't own guns in all these other countries. Don't have these massacres like we do. Where every year or few months there is another mass shooting in the news. Seems like it adds up to me. What is this likely would have used explosives ***? Explosives worked out well at Columbine. It is not like people go "oh I lost point and shoot so I better learn how to make bombs". IMO It's a cultural thing. Guns have been an inherent part of American history. Our concept of guns are seen more as a tool of empowerment that can make a hero (or villain) of one's devotion or will. Unfortunately it works both ways when it comes to motives of a more nefarious nature. But if we look at Japan for example, weapons in general are seen more as an internal force, that merely works as an extension of your body and mind. Which may explain why shootings aren't very common, yet stabbings are more prolific when it comes to crime.
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Scottish, and the Welsh language. I could go on and on about why the UK is *** up, but I'd rather hear it from him first. Aeyela said: » Bismarck.Dracondria said: » In countries like Japan and the UK they don't even carry guns Small correction, but in the wake of the London Riots a few years ago the Government passed law allowing officers to carry firearms "during periods of heightened tension and/or unrest". This right has yet to be activated, but it's now in writing. 'Normally they don't, but they have access to them in special circumstances' Better? Jetackuu said: » Personally I find a country that can have their Parliament dismantled at any time by their Monarch severely messed up. It doesn't quite work like that but okay. Any other reasons?
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Siren.Mosin said: » Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Criminals rarely have guns over here because if they get caught they won't get a gun charge tacked on, they also don't need to worry about normal citizens shooting them there's only 10 million people over there.... that's one of our smaller cities... So what? You have far more murders and gun crime in one of those cities than our entire country.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Aeyela said: » Bismarck.Dracondria said: » In countries like Japan and the UK they don't even carry guns Small correction, but in the wake of the London Riots a few years ago the Government passed law allowing officers to carry firearms "during periods of heightened tension and/or unrest". This right has yet to be activated, but it's now in writing. 'Normally they don't, but they have access to them in special circumstances' Better? Much! The only time I've seen armed Police anywhere in the UK is when we had the London Tube bombings and all the major rail stations across the UK had armed police on patrol for a few weeks. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » I know, I know. But hating the Scots and Welsh accents is a thing, you know. I think a good start to preventing massacres is media groups not making tragedy porn of these kind of events. One thing that seems to be a recurring element in these shootings is the assailant is someone that is at odds with their existence and perhaps through their living conditions or sheer lack of care, put their mental condition to that where they want to literally go down with a bang. Make their woes and story be heard throughout the nation; glorified or vindicated as twisted as that sounds. And in their own way, news casters do that over and over and over again.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: » So what? You have far more murders and gun crime in one of those cities than our entire country. so what works well for 10 million people does not equate to working well for 30x that amount of people, spread across 200x the amount of land. you think you could disarm the entire EU and half the eastern block peacefully?
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Jetackuu said: » Do I need another? Need? None. We're now just conversing. I'm curious what things you consider *** up about the UK; especially curious to see how many of my own personal check list you might tick off. Siren.Mosin said: » you think you could disarm the entire EU and half the eastern block peacefully? You couldn't. Just putin it out there.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Criminals rarely have guns over here because if they get caught they won't get a gun charge tacked on, they also don't need to worry about normal citizens shooting them there's only 10 million people over there.... that's one of our smaller cities... So what? You have far more murders and gun crime in one of those cities than our entire country. To really make heads or tails of that kind of data, you need to take crime rates of various degrees per capita. Chicago has been in the limelight recently over dozens of people being shot and killed over the course of a week; and yet because it's such an enormous city, it pales in comparison to the murder rate per capita of say Atlanta. In reality, Chicago doesn't have a gun problem; they have a gang problem.
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Artemicion said: » Chicago doesn't have a gun problem; they have a gang problem. with some of the most stringent weapon regulations in the nation...
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