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Merit Point Adjustments
 Bismarck.Snprphnx
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-05-30 07:11:47
Quote: [dev1210] Merit Point Category Expansion
A new entry, Maximum Merit Points, will be added to the “HP/MP” merit point category.
Placing one point in this category adjusts the character’s maximum number of merit points by one, up to a possible fifteen.
The maximum number of points that can be spent in the following general categories will be increased.
Category Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
HP/MP 15 → 45
Attributes 24 → 45
Combat Skills 32 → 56
Magic Skills 32 → 48
The maximum number of points that can be spent in the following specific categories will be increased.
Category Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
Specific Attributes 12 → 15
Guarding, Parrying, Shield, and Evasion skills 4 → 8
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-30 07:22:49
Yay for everyone to be capped 15/15 on HP/MP/Merit points now.
Plus, it looks like we get 1 more stat to max out.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2014-05-30 07:23:22
I do hope they also raise the caps. Example as a magic user you can have +16 skill in a category. I would love to raise my staff skill to the heavens as well as dark magic. Not just take the extra points and put them in Geo or bard singing.
But we shall see.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mirathyl 2014-05-30 07:26:14
We're gonna have way more than that too, I hope this update comes soon. Looks like we're getting a lot of things they've been pestered years for finally.
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By Bismarck.Dubai 2014-05-30 07:32:33
Most probably the old categories will be raised as well. Won't make if it doesn't.
By Pantafernando 2014-05-30 07:33:51
Its very nice SE doing this right now.
After i demerited 2 mules from 12 points in INT and redid all those merits (96 if iirc) in DEX...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-30 07:33:58
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »I do hope they also raise the caps. Example as a magic user you can have +16 skill in a category. I would love to raise my staff skill to the heavens as well as dark magic. Not just take the extra points and put them in Geo or bard singing.
But we shall see. Quote: The maximum number of points that can be spent in the following specific categories will be increased.
Category Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
Specific Attributes 12 → 15
Guarding, Parrying, Shield, and Evasion skills 4 → 8 Only Attributes and the 4 combat skills are being increased.
These changes only increase the number of total increases spent in these areas.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-05-30 07:34:27
I'm just happy with the merit cap increase. Rest is gravy.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-05-30 07:35:33
It's good, but when it was announced I thought the cap on job merits would be raised too. Boo.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-05-30 08:05:52
the cap on HP and MP logically has to be raised for there to be the potential of 45 upgrades in total.
35HP merits and 10MP merits here I come! (dat Oneiros Ring)
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-05-30 08:20:12
the cap on HP and MP logically has to be raised for there to be the potential of 45 upgrades in total.
35HP merits and 10MP merits here I come! (dat Oneiros Ring)
Nope. Pretty clear right there. 15 HP 15 MP 15 Merit. They aren't raising the cap on HP or MP.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-05-30 08:30:11
the cap on HP and MP logically has to be raised for there to be the potential of 45 upgrades in total.
35HP merits and 10MP merits here I come! (dat Oneiros Ring)
Nope. Pretty clear right there. 15 HP 15 MP 15 Merit. They aren't raising the cap on HP or MP. Ah well, still, Oneiros Ring!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2014-05-30 09:53:40
So we're using Merit Points to increase our Maximum Merit Points?
Oh SE.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-05-30 10:03:44
Quetzalcoatl.Zubis said: »So we're using Merit Points to increase our Maximum Merit Points?
Oh SE.
1st merit point increase costs 31 merit points.
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2014-05-30 10:05:01
Reading and comprehending what has been read is proven to be difficult for many it seems.
I'm having trouble with that myself. From what I read it sounded like they were letting us open up 15 extra merits to add to our totals but if you look at the numbers that doesn't make sense. Does each max merit point open up a category or something? Otherwise why go from 32 - 56 combat skill merits if we can only upgrade 15 of them?
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-05-30 10:14:18
Reading and comprehending what has been read is proven to be difficult for many it seems.
I'm having trouble with that myself. From what I read it sounded like they were letting us open up 15 extra merits to add to our totals but if you look at the numbers that doesn't make sense. Does each max merit point open up a category or something? Otherwise why go from 32 - 56 combat skill merits if we can only upgrade 15 of them? From how I read it, they are only increasing specific attributes to 15 (eg STR, DEX, MND) whereas combat skills will still only go up to 8 so now we'll be able to max out 7 categories.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-05-30 10:31:04
Gives us more merits into weapon skills or something really new and exciting.
Any less-drastic change bores me and strikes me as just something else I need to grind through when I'm already grinding merits out the wazoo for key items.
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By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2014-05-30 10:38:59
Gives us more merits into weapon skills or something really new and exciting.
Any less-drastic change bores me and strikes me as just something else I need to grind through when I'm already grinding merits out the wazoo for key items. Double the amount of merits possible at least. I can agree with that. At least that'll allow you to buff more WSs and unlock more
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By Ragnarok.Exavion 2014-05-30 11:06:28
Yeah its frustrating to keep building lights and then its time to spend merits.
The biggest problem I have is *nobody* uses keys and if they want in alliance as chest popper its for about 15 mins then they go zombie mode. I always end up nuking, opening all the red chests, and pulling. Kind of makes it more trouble then its worth.
I know merits are "Extremely easy" but with all the key items and now with 45!!! cap on stats its becoming almost as grindy as dynamis.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-30 14:52:37
This seems moderately silly. Between this and iLevel gear, at what point would it be simpler for SE to just unlock further levels? Because that's effectively what the stuff simulates.
If I recall correctly, player level is stored as a hexadecimal value, so there's no reason it can't reach 256 (presumably there's no such thing as level 0, though Wild Rabbits in Ronfaure and similar mobs may be coded as such).
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2014-05-30 14:53:24
I think they just don't want to have to deal w/ subjobs anymore than they already have when increasing to 99
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-30 14:55:08
Ah, that's a point; I'd forgotten about the issues subjobs could pose.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2014-05-30 16:01:05
Didn't they ask if they should make the cap 100 instead of 99 a few years back? The playerbase voted for 99 IRC.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-30 16:03:16
Quetzalcoatl.Zubis said: »Didn't they ask if they should make the cap 100 instead of 99 a few years back? The playerbase voted for 99 IRC. Never heard of that, but after years of suffering from Level 5 Petrify, I'd probably lobby to have the level cap at 99 just to avoid it.
I'm actually amazed SE hasn't populated Adoulin with Level 3 ObnoxiousStatusAilment mobs.
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By Valefor.Blizz 2014-05-30 16:30:02
Merits open up is ok i guess would be better to be able to store merits like job points and have 200 in reserve. Or better increase merits in the weaponskill area. And i dont know if i read this right but are peoples assumption of best exp gain is abby exp. You are just going to double your work abby does not give job points and addolin exp solo with trust magic is faster exp per hr. 30 merits should only take you 35 min.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-05-30 16:38:33
Quetzalcoatl.Zubis said: »Didn't they ask if they should make the cap 100 instead of 99 a few years back? The playerbase voted for 99 IRC.
They actually admitted the vote came out favoring 100, but it hadn't occurred to them this would involve people getting level 50 subjob JAs/Spells, so they reneged.
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By Asura.Dakenx 2014-05-30 17:01:41
I think they just don't want to have to deal w/ subjobs anymore than they already have when increasing to 99
It might be odd but if that is their reasoning just cap our subs at level 49. Would be nice to see the stat vomit off gear and just see natural stats on armor. I would also like to see us get Job Traits up to 119. Jobs like THF need a new tier of Evasion Bonus for example.
Quote: [dev1210] Merit Point Category Expansion
A new entry, Maximum Merit Points, will be added to the “HP/MP” merit point category.
Placing one point in this category adjusts the character’s maximum number of merit points by one, up to a possible fifteen.
The maximum number of points that can be spent in the following general categories will be increased.
Category Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
HP/MP 15 → 45
Attributes 24 → 45
Combat Skills 32 → 56
Magic Skills 32 → 48
The maximum number of points that can be spent in the following specific categories will be increased.
Category Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
Specific Attributes 12 → 15
Guarding, Parrying, Shield, and Evasion skills 4 → 8
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If you wish to discuss or submit feedback on this topic, please use the [dev1210] tag.
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