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soooooo why people job coach??
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 20:53:36
Nightfyre said: How is 20% (the actual number assuming WS @ 100TP) not a significant increase in a game of 0.5% increases? 20% is a fair chunk of damage. All told, Hagun alone is easily a 12% increase to a SAM's DPS from Onimaru. That's pretty big in FFXI. Reread what I wrote. Its when sams claim it makes there ws like 50% higher or soemthing. ANd really Onimaru lol cmon.
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By Unicorn.Smurfo 2009-10-14 21:07:14
Hoshiku said: especially the taru pld bit on a mob known for having tp moves that do more damage than max taru hp. (The only thing that might be worse would be a taru nin :P ) Pure *** right here, i've tanked through that zone as taru war, pld and nin and never died to incinerate once. Competent mages will barfira. My taru pld btw can max at 1635hp and thats missing about 200hp off of what my blood-tanking max potentially could be, much more than most generic lvl 75 pld of other races however generic lvl 75 pld of other races tend to not care about hp so much and can be found wearing lolpurple armors and such. Even at lvl 65ish or w/e u would fight those god awful crawlers, tarudins can still achieve plenty of hp to get by.
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By Asura.Hit 2009-10-14 21:10:55
Smurfo said: Hoshiku said: especially the taru pld bit on a mob known for having tp moves that do more damage than max taru hp. (The only thing that might be worse would be a taru nin :P ) Pure *** right here, i've tanked through that zone as taru war, pld and nin and never died to incinerate once. Competent mages will barfira. My taru pld btw can max at 1635hp and thats missing about 200hp off of what my blood-tanking max potentially could be, much more than most generic lvl 75 pld of other races however generic lvl 75 pld of other races tend to not care about hp so much and can be found wearing lolpurple armors and such. Even at lvl 65ish or w/e u would fight those god awful crawlers, tarudins can still achieve plenty of hp to get by. And you have the added benefit that taru are cute doing anything.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-14 21:37:15
Dasva said: Reread what I wrote. Its when sams claim it makes there ws like 50% higher or soemthing. ANd really Onimaru lol cmon. Gotcha. And yeah, Oni. It's a common GKT pre-Hagun. Inexpensive, decent, lets you put your gil towards Hagun. Hit said: And you have the added benefit that taru are cute doing anything. Dude, they waddle. :<
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 21:41:19
Nightfyre said: Dasva said: Reread what I wrote. Its when sams claim it makes there ws like 50% higher or soemthing. ANd really Onimaru lol cmon. Gotcha. And yeah, Oni. It's a common GKT pre-Hagun. Inexpensive, decent, lets you put your gil towards Hagun. Maybe but it still sucks. I'd preferr one that could idk actually compare to it well at least to those open enough to admit that hagun can be beat lol. I swear there are people out there that could see a gkt with 100 dmg that said +100% ws dmg and would still be like thats no hagun...
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By Unicorn.Smurfo 2009-10-14 21:51:51
Hit said: Smurfo said: Hoshiku said: especially the taru pld bit on a mob known for having tp moves that do more damage than max taru hp. (The only thing that might be worse would be a taru nin :P ) Pure *** right here, i've tanked through that zone as taru war, pld and nin and never died to incinerate once. Competent mages will barfira. My taru pld btw can max at 1635hp and thats missing about 200hp off of what my blood-tanking max potentially could be, much more than most generic lvl 75 pld of other races however generic lvl 75 pld of other races tend to not care about hp so much and can be found wearing lolpurple armors and such. Even at lvl 65ish or w/e u would fight those god awful crawlers, tarudins can still achieve plenty of hp to get by. And you have the added benefit that taru are cute doing anything. Exactly, i still wonder why there are haters when we are obviously far more advanced pixel images than them and can compensate pretty much any lack of natural stats we may have in comparison.
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By Asura.Hit 2009-10-14 21:58:53
Nightfyre said: Dasva said: Reread what I wrote. Its when sams claim it makes there ws like 50% higher or soemthing. ANd really Onimaru lol cmon. Gotcha. And yeah, Oni. It's a common GKT pre-Hagun. Inexpensive, decent, lets you put your gil towards Hagun. Hit said: And you have the added benefit that taru are cute doing anything. Dude, they waddle. :< So much of the cuteness is derived from that sexy little waddle, i'm an elvaan myself, but i can appreciate a taru :P
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-14 22:04:24
Ajido/Shantotto/Zonpa-Zippa = Sexiest pixels alive. Just sayin.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 22:10:09
Ninian said: Ajido/Shantotto/Zonpa-Zippa = Sexiest pixels alive. Just sayin. Prishe too!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-14 22:10:19
Dasva said: Maybe but it still sucks. I'd preferr one that could idk actually compare to it well at least to those open enough to admit that hagun can be beat lol. I swear there are people out there that could see a gkt with 100 dmg that said +100% ws dmg and would still be like thats no hagun... Damn I'm slow tonight. 5-hit Rindomaru is competitive with the right augments, sure, but I don't think somebody who's still saving up for a Hagun would have the gear to pull it off. Been a while since I looked at the numbers required though. 6-hit, Oni is going to pull ahead of Rindo. If there are any other inexpensive and competitive options I'm all ears.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 22:16:51
Nightfyre said: Dasva said: Maybe but it still sucks. I'd preferr one that could idk actually compare to it well at least to those open enough to admit that hagun can be beat lol. I swear there are people out there that could see a gkt with 100 dmg that said +100% ws dmg and would still be like thats no hagun... Damn I'm slow tonight. 5-hit Rindomaru is competitive with the right augments, sure, but I don't think somebody who's still saving up for a Hagun would have the gear to pull it off. Been a while since I looked at the numbers required though. 6-hit, Oni is going to pull ahead of Rindo. If there are any other inexpensive and competitive options I'm all ears. Damn you and your inexpensive clause. Well those super high store tp +5% dmg ones with some acc in there are nice. Um not cheap but the cerb ZNM one. <.< >.> Futsuno.... relic.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-14 22:23:57
What are you guys doing. This isn't a thread about gear choices, this thread is about Shantotto and Prishe, get with the times.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-10-14 22:25:18
Shantotto is lame but Prishe is awesome sauce
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 22:29:00
Ninian said: What are you guys doing. This isn't a thread about gear choices, this thread is about Shantotto and Prishe, get with the times. Fact. We still need to start that fanclub
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By Asura.Hit 2009-10-14 22:30:39
Dasva said: [quote=Ninian]What are you guys doing. This isn't a thread about gear choices, this thread is about Shantotto and Prishe, get with the times. more of this?
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-14 22:33:11
Oh right! The Shantotto fanclub! I actually need to make a website for it, but for now a thread will have to do!
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-14 22:35:20
Ninian said: Oh right! The Shantotto fanclub! I actually need to make a website for it, but for now a thread will have to do! Do it and PM me the link!
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-14 22:37:20
Dasva said: Ninian said: Oh right! The Shantotto fanclub! I actually need to make a website for it, but for now a thread will have to do! Do it and PM me the link! So totally on making it sometime in the near future. Also need to make a clay figure of Shantotto for that contest. :s
what has happened to the game? Nowdays people would rather sit and tell you how to do job then focus on having fun and doing there own damn job. I get it if someone are doing stupid stuff pulling multiple links time after time,not curing and whole pt dies, nuking too much pulling hate dying etc where they are messing up party flow or xp/hr and just doing dumb stuff yes they need advice on how not to mess up there and everyones xp but jesus this is crazy! So I had a pt the other day on my WHM with a blu brd pld drk and a war. I take my xtra char out to do haste rotation and cure while I rest we go good for over 30min then all of a sudden the dark wants to start complaining they want haste. Unknown to me at the time the drk pld and war are all is same shell so it makes since later when they wanna sit there and triple team me.Fighting eruca yes slow is a pain but so is incinerate I'm doing barfira auspice curing the drk after souleater (NO they didn't turn it off after ws) and since the drk is TA the pld yes they got hit with incinerate from time to time and slowed. PLD says well stop hasting me and just haste the drk then. Now I have nothing against taru PLDS but..Waiting till hp is close or under half to cure yourself when mob doing a move like incinerate is just retarded Especially when you keep going close to dying when it lands.WE were getting more than decent xp with no rests no stops so I don't see what the hell the problem was the drk wasn't stunning rarely using absorb spells didn't see too many drains after hit with incinerate but did I sit there and tell them what to do NO. I just laughed at how stupid they were to my self..
With 2 chars out there healing I still run low on MP. So I rest with main while extra heals pt so i can recoup MP there is no way in hell we woulda did as well as we did with any whm out there alone so why can't people just be happy with what they get. So instead I'm called emo for saying I didn't have mp at the time and pld needs more than drk then of course it goes to what gimpy gear cause my main whm has electrum earrings and egg ammo while my extra char whm 75 has ether serket hedgehog bomb for ammo but yet omg my main didn't have serket... no wonder you suck omg nooo not an mp egg in ammo slot nooo. People need to focus more on being a party and thinking of the party rather than there damn e-peen ohh noez I'm falling behind on my parser. If you get a party and things are going good STFU!! enjoy the pt enjoy the XP if people dying, getting others killed or ask then by all means say something give advice but omg that is crazy to dog someone else out because 1 pt member isn't getting haste. If you were in this party you are free to leave your 2 cents you know who u are but bottom line is there are different perspectives to each side my job as whm is to keep tank alive keep pt members cured, barspell like i did, auspice, and manage my damn MP so we can keep chaining not use all before we hit chain3 IF you can't understand that then you should go play WOW or some other game. PLD job is to keep mob on him as much as he can cure himself and manage mp see a trend here? MP management is key I'm sure alot of you have pt with plds who cure themselves more than needed and then is outta mp or doesn't cure themselves often enough and becomes an MP sponge bottom line is you need to work together to maximize xp/hr
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