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FCC approves first step of ending net neutrality
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-05-15 11:47:25
FCC takes first steps to internet reclassification
Please, discuss.
Personally, despite the empty promises from Tom Wheeler*, I'm seeing this as the first step to regulation and corporatization of the internet for the interests of cable and information conglomerates.
*Prior to working at the FCC, Wheeler worked as a venture capitalist and lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry, with positions including President of the National Cable Television Association (NCTA) and CEO of the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association (CTIA).
Basically, the FCC is being run now by a puppet of the telecommunication industry.
What conflict of interest?
Edit: Also, if the FCC starts sticking its nose into things, what gets regulated? What doesn't? Censorship is a dirty word itself and the FCC already flexes far too much muscle over artistic/personal freedom of expression.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-05-15 12:02:10
Because i hate clicking links in here to news articles...
The Federal Communications Commission voted Thursday in favor of a preliminary proposal that could allow Internet "fast lanes."
Under the proposed rules, Internet providers would be allowed to charge companies like Netflix in exchange for delivering content to customers at faster speeds.
The proposed set of rules center on "net neutrality," the question of whether Internet providers should have to treat all online traffic equally.
The debate "isn't whether the Internet should be open, but how and when we should have rules in place," FCC chairman Tom Wheeler said at the vote on Thursday.
That "how" is the center of the heated debate between content creators and broadband Internet providers.
Wheeler has insisted that he won't allow anyone to "divide the Internet between 'haves' and 'have nots.'" His plan won't let providers block content or make it extremely slow -- or otherwise "act in a commercially unreasonable manner."
The FCC will seek public comment on the full proposal, which has not yet been posted, for 120 days. The commission has said it is considering two main options.
Should the Internet be classified as a telecommunications service?
First, the FCC is considering reclassifying Internet as a "telecommunications service." That would put it in a regulatory category similar to utilities like electricity and phone service.
Internet providers would have to offer customers equal access, and they would be subject to more regulation from the FCC. (Since 2002 the FCC has considered broadband Internet an "information service," which limits the commission's ability to regulate and doesn't mandate equal service for all.)
This is sometimes called the "nuclear option," and critics have questioned whether the FCC is truly considering this method -- but Wheeler has insisted that it's on the table.
Should the FCC be able to regulate the Internet on a case-by-case basis?
The second method would give the FCC less regulatory power in the Internet realm.
Under this option, the FCC wouldn't change the Internet's status as an information service. But the commission would use authority it's granted in Section 706 of the Telecommunication Act, which requires the group to spur competition in the space.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-05-15 12:02:53
its all about control and money
By MrIdea 2014-05-15 12:07:40
I like this, but it wont work.
Too much money in it staying declassified.
Classification of internet as telecom utility would mean it would fall under the universal utilities rights which mandates universal rights to access and market regulation.
Basically means there would then be a super basic 56k for free provisioning.
Pro; regulation.
Con; taxpayers will be responsible for the infrastructure of cable when really this is an attempt to subsidize cable infrastructure making it cheaper then fiber optics.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 15:11:30
Why not just annex all forms of communications and be done with it.
Heck, why not just annex all businesses and absorb them into the government.
And this country isn't changing to socialism at all...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 15:32:38
This country hasn't been under the capitalist economic system in the last 5 years.
We are in that transition phase between capitalism and socialism.
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By Jetackuu 2014-05-15 15:34:14
Oh look the neocon thinks he knows things, but yet doesn't even understand the words he's saying.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-05-15 15:34:40
Why do they pretend that the internet is somehow broken and they need to fix it?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 15:41:37
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Why do they pretend that the internet is somehow broken and they need to fix it? Because it's easier to control a country by limiting information to it's people.
It's a good thing for liberals that this is happening during a conservative administration
Oh wai...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 16:00:06
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Why do they pretend that the internet is somehow broken and they need to fix it? Because it's easier to control a country by limiting information to it's people.
From the article ...
Quote: "Reclassification doesn’t really mean ISPs become utilities. It just means they have to operate by a set of rules that prohibit them from blocking or slowing certain content."
You didn't even bother to read it =/ If you don't think the federal government won't abuse their powers, I have a beachfront property to sell you in Montana...
Or are you going to say the abuse of powers doesn't exist in the government?
inb4 Jet defending overreaching governmental powers to control our lives daily
By Jetackuu 2014-05-15 16:02:00
I'd say inb4 King not knowing what he's talking about, but it's way too late for that.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-15 16:05:20
"Conflict of Interests" sums up the United States government better than anything else.
This country hasn't been under the capitalist economic system in the last 5 years.
We are in that transition phase between capitalism and socialism.
We haven't been a capitalist nation since we learned pure capitalism doesn't work in the late 19th and 20th century during the Carnegie boom days.
The big problem with raw capitalism/libertarianism economic systems is that once an individual reaches a critical mass of power and influence, the free market no longer works because it ceases to be a free market.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 16:09:20
I'd say inb4 King not knowing what he's talking about, but it's way too late for that. oh right, you are still under the delusion that Obama is a neo-conservative.
I don't know why I keep forgetting that...
By Jetackuu 2014-05-15 16:10:07
I'd say inb4 King not knowing what he's talking about, but it's way too late for that. oh right, you are still under the delusion that Obama is a centrist, and nowhere near being a socialist.
I don't know why I keep ignoring that... ftfy
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-05-15 16:19:52
If anyone can't see how important this is, then let it be known. I'm more than willing to personally spend my own time helping people figure out why this is so critical and what will happen if it isn't stopped.
This is NOT a partisan issue. All of us should be able to get behind this, I mean, unless you are a giant ISP anyway.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-15 16:54:05
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »If anyone can't see how important this is, then let it be known. I'm more than willing to personally spend my own time helping people figure out why this is so critical and what will happen if it isn't stopped.
This is NOT a partisan issue. All of us should be able to get behind this, I mean, unless you are a giant ISP anyway.
I've already submitted a public complaint for the hearing, a lot of youtube videos have information on how to do that, and what words you should use. I don't advocate saying stuff you don't believe in, but legalspeak is a tricky business, so don't shy away from using the proper terminology suggested.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-05-15 17:11:30
I have a binary outlook and can't understand that liberal and conservative are modified by authoritarian and libertarian views.
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By volkom 2014-05-15 17:12:15
Like 15-25 years from now when/if I have kids and when they're competent enough to hold a conversation, I'm going to be like
"I remember the days when the internet was the invention of human ingenuity in which everyone could communicate and collaborate on anything and everything and we were only tied down by the limits of our imagination in which what we could show the world, now its just a cesspool of government and corporation dickery."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-15 17:46:17
I'm sorry everyone, I can't understand myself, so I'm projecting intelligence where there is none. I do apologize to everyone for not even understanding myself and also for my continuous lies.
What is true about me can be found Here.ftfy
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By Shiva.Arana 2014-05-15 17:48:15
Why does every *** thread on this forum have to turn into a *** measuring competition between neocons and libtards. The mods used to care about derailing is that not a thing anymore?
By Yzzerdd 2014-05-15 17:52:36
I'd say inb4 King not knowing what he's talking about, but it's way too late for that. oh right, you are still under the delusion that Obama is a neo-conservative.
I don't know why I keep forgetting that...
Dude you post in like every single thread, but it shows how you post without understanding the OP.
You know post count doesn't mean anything to anyone but yourself, right?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-05-15 17:53:22
I wouldn't want their job, regardless. I get tired of reading it as it is.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-15 17:53:59
The story as reported by Reuters:
Quote: U.S. regulators on Thursday advanced a "net neutrality" proposal that would ban Internet providers from blocking or slowing down access to websites but may let them charge content companies for faster and more reliable delivery of their traffic to users.
For four months now, the public can weigh in on the rules proposed by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in what promises to be an intense tug-of-war between some tech companies and consumer advocates on one side and Republicans and broadband providers on the other, over the extent to which the agency can regulate Internet traffic. Amid protests, U.S. FCC proposes new 'net neutrality' rules
So basically it's the same *** loophole they put in place with credit cards. You can't charge more for using a credit card, but you are allowed to give a cash discount and eventually this has now led to separate prices for cash or credit. Ultimately making the whole thing moot.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-05-15 18:42:04
Why does every *** thread on this forum have to turn into a *** measuring competition between neocons and libtards. The mods used to care about derailing is that not a thing anymore?
i think its ignored because the (most often) mindless rants by certain ppl are what keep the threads going..
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By fonewear 2014-05-15 18:44:51
Why does every *** thread on this forum have to turn into a *** measuring competition between neocons and libtards. The mods used to care about derailing is that not a thing anymore?
You must be new here.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-05-15 19:27:11
Why does every *** thread on this forum have to turn into a *** measuring competition between neocons and libtards. The mods used to care about derailing is that not a thing anymore?
Because some people are obsessed with King.
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By Fumiku 2014-05-15 22:26:40
Alright someone put this in laymen terms for me....Google translate go!
FCC takes first steps to internet reclassification
Please, discuss.
Personally, despite the empty promises from Tom Wheeler*, I'm seeing this as the first step to regulation and corporatization of the internet for the interests of cable and information conglomerates.
*Prior to working at the FCC, Wheeler worked as a venture capitalist and lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry, with positions including President of the National Cable Television Association (NCTA) and CEO of the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association (CTIA).
Basically, the FCC is being run now by a puppet of the telecommunication industry.
What conflict of interest?
Edit: Also, if the FCC starts sticking its nose into things, what gets regulated? What doesn't? Censorship is a dirty word itself and the FCC already flexes far too much muscle over artistic/personal freedom of expression.
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