U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds

You didn't criticize his views. You stated you cannot wait until his view is met with the death penalty.

Link?

I'd be surprised if anyone here could actually understand how a climate model works.

So what happens in 15 years or so when solar activity decreases by 60% bringing in a mini ice age?

I'd be surprised if anyone here could actually understand how a climate model works.

I'm sure you remember the semi-recent news about using modifiers to explain away the hiatus. And I'm sure you're aware that there are still countless variations on climate models.

Scientists have made a discovery about the sun's "heartbeat" that they say indicates that Earth's Northern Hemisphere could experience a deep freeze in 15 years.

The sun has a "solar heartbeat," or cycle of activity, that produces energy that causes sunspots and solar flares. Scientists at Northumbria University in northeast England developed a model that illustrates the history of these heartbeats and that predicts there will be irregularities in them. The model suggests that solar activity will fall by 60% during the 2030s.

According to the Royal Astronomical Society, the researchers studied the sun's magnetic field activity between 1976 and 2008. They compared their predictions with average sunspot numbers, another strong marker of solar activity, the society reported.

The researchers' model showed a 97% level of accuracy, said Valentina Zharkova, a Northumbria University mathematics professor.

So how cold could it get?

The scientists say their findings could mean a deep freeze like the one Great Britain experienced around 1900, when the Thames River froze over.

CNN meteorologist Brandon Miller says the study looks intriguing, but it has not been peer reviewed, or subjected to the scrutiny of the larger scientific community.

"This isn't published research yet," he said. "Our ability to forecast the specifics of a solar cycle is incredibly poor. It's worse than forecasting in a hurricane season."

Doug Biesecker, who works at the Space Weather Prediction Center at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in Boulder, Colorado, agrees with Miller.

He said the research shouldn't give anyone the idea that because the weather may cool, climate change is not something to be worried about.

"It's a very complicated issue," Biesecker, an expert in solar physics, told CNN. "Does the sun have a role in our variable climate? Yes. Is the dominant role? No. Even the concept of the sun being responsible for Europe's mini ice age -- it's not hard-and-fast true."

Bottom line: The research needs a closer look.

I'd be surprised if anyone here could actually understand how a climate model works.

The problem is as has been noted several times before, atmospheric temps have been flat for ~18 years.

Where do you get this stuff? The forcing contribution of co2 has been known for decades. And the last 18 years aren't out of the error range of current models. Just stop. It's almost as bad as anti-vax and anti-gmo rhetoric.

Mostly your view, his is at least rational skepticism, you're just a partisan puppet and a troll.

Where's all that warming we were promised 20 years ago pleebo? Cause it never got here.

Surface temps are different than atmospheric temps. And your graph shows RSS sat data showing no gain for almost 20 years

Awwww Buddy come on now. Stop wearing butthurt on your sleeve.

If you can't read a graph

No one likes having their religion challenged.

No one likes having their religion challenged.

Surface temps are different than atmospheric temps. And your graph shows RSS sat data showing no gain for almost 20 years

Details aside, most if not all alarmist modeling has a critical flaw in its design. That flaw is the overstatement of co2 efficacy. If co2 is modeled on the fact that it is 10 times more potent a modifier on the climate than it actually is, then naturally as co2 rises, temperatures will also rise in any modeling that is done.

The problem is as has been noted several times before, atmospheric temps have been flat for ~18 years. This is critical because in the last 18 years the co2 in the air has been at ever increasing record levels and has been demonstrably proven, atmospheric temps have been flat.

Clearly either there is some other modifier at work mitigating the potency of co2, or the co2 simply isn't as potent as the alarmists think it is. Since the alarmist have yet to accurately predict future warming for 40 years, my bet isn't on their accuracy.