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Skcnm20 solo can it be done?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-07-16 16:33:50
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Sorry to derail.

I remember when I was trying to do these right after the update o was having troubles getting the trusts to come in to the bcnm with me. If i summoned them outside they'd despawn upon entering and if I tried to summon them once in the arena it wouldn't allow it. Wasted ~3orbs that way trying to get it to work. X.x

So before I give it a try again, what is the proper way to bring them along.
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By Presidentmerman 2014-07-16 16:38:30
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Summon outside, never had an issue myself.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-07-16 16:41:54
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I think they just didn't want to be seen fighting with a PUP.

If nothing else I probably messed up somewhere.
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By Ramuh.Zeroenna 2014-07-16 17:36:38
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The Kindred one is really hard on BLU, yawn or sheep song would not stick long enough. Tried bringing a BST friend and we just got it handed to us. Kindreds line of sight is way to far to not get agro on master before pets.
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By Carbuncle.Bukadan 2014-07-16 17:51:44
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i can 2 box difficult as whm and monk or sam. id imagine you can do normal at least solo with whm trusts. a good dt set is a requirement, but if you dont have one yet you should be working on that before even attempting solo battles of any kind lol. should have one for all jobs 50%pdt/50%mdtw/shell.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-07-16 17:57:59
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Presidentmerman said: »
Summon outside, never had an issue myself.
This actually works? Because I`ve notice since the update that buffs are wearing on entry because the areas are level capped, where as before the update this didn't happen. So trust npc`s dont despawn if called outside?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-16 18:08:51
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I was soloing leg papers last night and trusts weren't despawning if I called them outside.
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By tarupowa 2014-07-16 18:11:38
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I solo chapters 1-5 on blue mage on normal without much difficulty, i just pop trusts before entering. i only use them for buffs really like the bards and moogle for mp. I just sleep all them and then take the most dangerous down first. not too hard.
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By Bariman 2014-07-16 18:14:52
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Demons aren't really resistant to darkness. They have natural movement speed and magic damage taken- bonuses but no real resistance to darkness. I have had no problems landing Dream flower on Kindred Spirits on normal despite duoing/soloing it many times. Sheep song has bad duration, but I have no idea why yawn wouldn't work as an alternative.

As for MP on BLU, most fights feature a monster you can aspir so MP drainkiss is awesome. Mhammer would be better with magic damage+ gear but it wakes monsters up and has a long recast. I usually kill in order of: What I can't sleep >> Most dangerous >> anything else. Leaving WHMs (benediction) or another mage alive til last to serve as an MP battery.
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By Ramuh.Zeroenna 2014-07-16 18:17:38
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Well i will have to try dream flower then. Not sure where i was getting the thought thinking that the dark sleep would resist.
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-07-16 18:24:49
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Soling on PUP is easy and PUP Deal out crazy dmg
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-07-16 18:56:15
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Ramuh.Zeroenna said: »
The Kindred one is really hard on BLU, yawn or sheep song would not stick long enough. Tried bringing a BST friend and we just got it handed to us. Kindreds line of sight is way to far to not get agro on master before pets.


Kindred is by far the hardest for most jobs capable of soloing these, not only because sleep's off the table but you have two substantial sources of magic damage and astral flow. IMO the trick is to just plan on dying to AF; kill the two melee, force AF, and kill the last two without trusts. Pull them back not only for safe RR (obviously) but to avoid putting the BLM in melee range; I find keeping ranged attackers at range (thus killing RNG and BLM last, no matter the SKCNM) was the key to doing these consistently without sleep pre-trusts.
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By Bariman 2014-07-16 19:15:27
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Sleep shouldn't be off the table unless you are doing D or higher which I would not recommend solo. Depending on MP consumption you can /RUN for diamond dust (SMN always uses Shiva for AF) and you can silence or stun lock the blm with sudden lunge during manafont.
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-07-17 01:01:02
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Presidentmerman said: »
Summon outside, never had an issue myself.
This actually works? Because I`ve notice since the update that buffs are wearing on entry because the areas are level capped, where as before the update this didn't happen. So trust npc`s dont despawn if called outside?

Im interested on how this works because when I try to summon inside I get the "cant be summoned here ***" msg.

Kindred skcnm ive solod on normal mode using pld/rdm pld/dnc with not too much difficulty just take remedy with you.
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-17 01:17:14
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You need to summon before you enter. I don't know why really because buffs wear upon entry, so I figured NPCs would vanish as well but that isn't the case.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-07-17 07:18:30
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Carbuncle.Sambb said: »
Asura.Calatilla said: »
Presidentmerman said: »
Summon outside, never had an issue myself.
This actually works? Because I`ve notice since the update that buffs are wearing on entry because the areas are level capped, where as before the update this didn't happen. So trust npc`s dont despawn if called outside?

Im interested on how this works because when I try to summon inside I get the "cant be summoned here ***" msg.

This is probably because of the enmity mechanics of BCNM's. You can't summon NPC's when you have enmity - and I'm pretty sure that when you enter a BCNM, you automatically have enmity just from being there. As others have said, you have to summon Trusts outside before you go in.
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By Pantafernando 2014-07-17 07:32:24
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Carbuncle.Sambb said: »
Asura.Calatilla said: »
Presidentmerman said: »
Summon outside, never had an issue myself.
This actually works? Because I`ve notice since the update that buffs are wearing on entry because the areas are level capped, where as before the update this didn't happen. So trust npc`s dont despawn if called outside?

Im interested on how this works because when I try to summon inside I get the "cant be summoned here ***" msg.

This is probably because of the enmity mechanics of BCNM's. You can't summon NPC's when you have enmity - and I'm pretty sure that when you enter a BCNM, you automatically have enmity just from being there. As others have said, you have to summon Trusts outside before you go in.

In every battlefield you need to first aggro the oponent before the fight.

If you consider trusts as players, they need to be called before entering, as the battlefield is an instanced place, and technically none can join that once is started. But you can dc and get back in the same instance.
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By Zoltar 2014-07-17 09:02:07
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Anyone tried to solo SKC10 The Worm's Turn?

Have 119 bst/smn, was thinking with trusts it might not be too bad...
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-07-17 10:19:38
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Zoltar said: »
Anyone tried to solo SKC10 The Worm's Turn?

Have 119 bst/smn, was thinking with trusts it might not be too bad...
I havent done it personally but I know a RDM in my ls that solo`s it. RDM/BLM Sleepga all the worms, nuke the main one then -ga > sleepga > -ga the smaller ones.
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By Carbuncle.Bukadan 2014-07-17 10:30:40
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yea idk why people are obsessed with bst and smn solos at this point especially when trusts exist. just go melee with mage/buff trusts or black/red mage/scholar with moogle/buff trusts. or if you can two box you dont even need trusts.
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By Ravenn42 2014-07-17 11:07:44
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Carbuncle.Bukadan said: »
yea idk why people are obsessed with bst and smn solos at this point especially when trusts exist. just go melee with mage/buff trusts or black/red mage/scholar with moogle/buff trusts. or if you can two box you dont even need trusts.

Bst have no place in endgame so this OBSESSED thing your talking about hold no value.
All we are trying to do is play the job we love and have spent time and money building.
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By Zoltar 2014-07-17 13:04:50
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Zoltar said: »
Anyone tried to solo SKC10 The Worm's Turn?

Have 119 bst/smn, was thinking with trusts it might not be too bad...
I havent done it personally but I know a RDM in my ls that solo`s it. RDM/BLM Sleepga all the worms, nuke the main one then -ga > sleepga > -ga the smaller ones.

Thanks, I'm gonna give this a whirl on Blm/Rdm and see if I can do it...don't have 99 rdm unfortunately
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-07-17 14:00:57
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Otherwise BST would probably be a viable option.

I'm not saying that this would guarantee success, but I'd choose a pet that can withstand nukes (Gooey Gerard or perhaps Caring Kiyomaro) and send them into the arena first to grab hate. Then I'd pull the pet back to one side of the arena to a relatively safe position (so that any ~aga spells that land on your pet won't hit you and your trusts at the same time) and use the Stay command. While the mobs are nuking your pet, you and your trusts can focus on killing one mob at a time. Be careful of using Trusts that use AoE moves. Naturally you'll need to keep a close eye on your pet's HP and keep plenty of Dawn Mulsums handy for when your reward timer is down.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-07-20 06:36:44
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tarupowa said: »
I solo chapters 1-5 on blue mage on normal without much difficulty, i just pop trusts before entering. i only use them for buffs really like the bards and moogle for mp. I just sleep all them and then take the most dangerous down first. not too hard.
Any chance you can post your gear sets? I just tried Demo Squad on Easy setting and got full resist on sleep.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2015-03-20 20:07:03
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By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2015-03-20 20:24:46
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Send me a tell when you go Jos, I'll lend a hand. I haven't seen BB in a long time.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2015-03-20 20:28:16
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Thx. Guys. I was raped hard. Summoned pet and trust . Took 1 step got rushed then ate a astral flow. I am pressing charges.