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 Phoenix.Amandarius
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 12:20:41
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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I see them as wrong and as people that make decisions using their emotions.

I would tend to agree with sentiments like that.

It's your broad labeling of entire groups of people that makes me a little uneasy.

So you haven't heard the most prominent liberals in the world demonizing fellow Americans for political gain. The "1%" doesn't sound subhuman to you? How about the tea party? Ever heard horrible things about them directly from the mouths of the most prominent liberals. How about Republicans in general? Have you heard them blamed for every ill of the world? War on women? Do they hate the poor? Racist? How do you feel about racists? I'm sure like most people you find them to be about the most disgusting people in the world; slightly better than people that harm children. Is it hateful to label someone as a racist? I think it is. Ever heard that thrown around as a label for anyone that disagrees with a liberal?

I stand by my statements.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-01-27 12:26:28
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
I stand by my statements.

& I by mine.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-27 12:40:44
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OK Jassik cool story about your wife. Did you ask her a god damn thing about this before you posted your wrong account of the Russian Revolution? Maybe you should have. They seized all property from the wealthy. They killed them or they were forced to flee. The people took it upon themselves to divide the land and property amongst the people as they saw fit. No one denies this. It is history. It is the entire basis of the beginning of the Soviet union. NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Stop talking out of your ***.

The people overthrew the monarchy in favor of a communist government. The "wealthy" were aristocrats, they were wealthy because they were monarchs, they practiced serfdom, that's not "wealthy" bubba, that's fascism. The media didn't propagate hatred toward the successful and incite the masses to seize their wealth. A radical group overthrew a monarchy with public support.

There is no way you don't understand the difference and are still able to operate a computer, so you are obviously trolling intentionally.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-27 12:42:48
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
This is precisely why when you see a minority of people being demonized you should stand against the hate because when it becomes acceptable to demonize them; they become devalued, less than human. Horrible atrocities always follow.

What minority? The 1% or conservatives because your next few paragraphs talk about republicans/conservatives not the 1%.

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We are repeating history.
We are not even close to the Bolshevik Revolution or French revolution.

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Everyday the Democrats sound more and more like horrible Marxists. Just last week he governor of New York states Conservatives aren't welcome in New York; labeling Conservatives horribly. The mayor of New York ran his entire campaign on hate speech towards those with wealth. They are intolerant of anyone that disagrees with them. Their language promotes hate and inspires the worst in people. It feeds off of the insecurities, the hate, the jealousy in all of us. It's bad news. This road always ends the same.
This paragraph demonizes democrats. You are doing the same thing that you don't want Democrats to do.

When did liberal become associated with Marxism/socialism/communism? Many decades ago when Republicans first started to use it to demonize those dirty, liberal, hippy democrats. This word association you seem fine with.

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This goes all the way to the top, Obama. Have you ever in your life heard a President so divisive. Can you show me once, Clinton, either Bush, just cutting down political opposition so harshly and negatively as President Obama? This constant demonization coming right from the top has Americans at each others throats all day every day. The left walks around all day in a constant state of pissed off and wouldn't bat an eye if they heard of some unspeakable violence happening to someone they disagree with.
Yes, each president for decades has made divisive comments about the opposition. This is not new. And I agree it is not a good thing. It is not a good thing on both sides, not just the side you don't like.

Something pops up in the news and it's "blame the other side game". Both parties play it and both parties followers consume it. Which means nothing gets solved and we all lose.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-27 12:43:46
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
The "1%" doesn't sound subhuman to you?

Seemed really subhuman when all my classmates were fighting over scholarships.

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How about the tea party? Ever heard horrible things about them directly from the mouths of the most prominent liberals.

You mean things like centering stump speeches around painting anyone on government assistance as a leech while taking farm subsidies themselves?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-27 13:02:33
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We've now entered the persecution phase of the thread. Everyone grab your nails and crosses and please form a line behind Amand. A ravenous gang of liberals will be with you shortly.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-27 13:54:11
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How does the 1% come off as sounding "sub-human"? The very term means the pinnacle.

However, it's statements like that, that make these threads so entertaining.

Why is there so much mention of the Bolshevik revolution and no mention of the Mensheviks?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 13:55:50
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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OK Jassik cool story about your wife. Did you ask her a god damn thing about this before you posted your wrong account of the Russian Revolution? Maybe you should have. They seized all property from the wealthy. They killed them or they were forced to flee. The people took it upon themselves to divide the land and property amongst the people as they saw fit. No one denies this. It is history. It is the entire basis of the beginning of the Soviet union. NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Stop talking out of your ***.

The people overthrew the monarchy in favor of a communist government. The "wealthy" were aristocrats, they were wealthy because they were monarchs, they practiced serfdom, that's not "wealthy" bubba, that's fascism. The media didn't propagate hatred toward the successful and incite the masses to seize their wealth. A radical group overthrew a monarchy with public support.

There is no way you don't understand the difference and are still able to operate a computer, so you are obviously trolling intentionally.

You don't know what you are talking about and insulting me doesn't make you right. It just shows the weakness in your inexplicable incorrect version of this history that you are claiming for no other reason than to argue. You can prevent all of this foolishness by perhaps "learning" about it. You won't find a single source to refute what I said and you can quietly learn and I won't even embarrass you anymore.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-01-27 13:56:15
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
How does the 1% come off as sounding "sub-human"? The very term means the pinnacle.

However, it's statements like that, that make these threads so entertaining.

Why is there so much mention of the Bolshevik revolution and no mention of the Mensheviks?

I wanted to keep it quiet and broad to catch Aman doing what he's accusing Jassik of, which is apparent. He's got the effect but there are no causes leading up to it other than dirty, poor people as of right now, according to him.

EDIT: Sorry. I'm history geekin' a little. I really can't wait to read Aman's thoughts on the Russian Realist movement too!

Sarcasm tags! I refuse!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-27 14:17:47
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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How does the 1% come off as sounding "sub-human"? The very term means the pinnacle.

However, it's statements like that, that make these threads so entertaining.

Why is there so much mention of the Bolshevik revolution and no mention of the Mensheviks?

I wanted to keep it quiet and broad to catch Aman doing what he's accusing Jassik of, which is apparent. He's got the effect but there are no causes leading up to it other than dirty, poor people as of right now, according to him.

EDIT: Sorry. I'm history geekin' a little. I really can't wait to read Aman's thoughts on the Russian Realist movement too!

Sarcasm tags! I refuse!

Like the coupling of "Liberals" and "Socialist" as being the same; with respect to the yet unmentioned by name "February Revolution"? When they are in fact two distinctly separate ideologies.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 14:19:11
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Sorry guys I just think that demonizing small groups of people and blaming them for all of the ills of the world always leads to something very bad. You can choose to ignore history or assume that you are somehow smarter than every generation that has ever lived and completely insusceptible to propaganda; but you are not and you prove it everyday. Coming from a Liberal, mockery is the sincerest form of flattery; so I appreciate all of your sarcasm and absence of debate.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-01-27 14:27:23
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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How does the 1% come off as sounding "sub-human"? The very term means the pinnacle.

However, it's statements like that, that make these threads so entertaining.

Why is there so much mention of the Bolshevik revolution and no mention of the Mensheviks?

I wanted to keep it quiet and broad to catch Aman doing what he's accusing Jassik of, which is apparent. He's got the effect but there are no causes leading up to it other than dirty, poor people as of right now, according to him.

EDIT: Sorry. I'm history geekin' a little. I really can't wait to read Aman's thoughts on the Russian Realist movement too!

Sarcasm tags! I refuse!

Like the coupling of "Liberals" and "Socialist" as being the same; with respect to the yet unmentioned by name "February Revolution"? When they are in fact two distinctly separate ideologies.

I was more or less going down the path of the revolving door of political parties, the reformation of the Duma from one session to the next, appeasement of Czar Nickolas while holding his feet to the fire for reform, ousting of their constitution, etc.

I'm going to have to read up on all this crap again. Not sure it's worth it for a FFXIAH argument though.

Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
You can choose to ignore history or assume that you are somehow smarter than every generation that has ever lived and completely insusceptible to propaganda; but you are not and you prove it everyday.

We could very easily say the same for you.

Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Coming from a Liberal, mockery is the sincerest form of flattery; so I appreciate all of your sarcasm and absence of debate.

You had plenty of opportunities to jump in, if you actually knew what you were talking about. You revealed your own ignorance.

Please, I would still love to hear anything you have to say about the Russian Realist Movement. Literature and art. Gogogogo! They are, after all, one of the best indicators of the social climate of a bygone era.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-27 14:35:52
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nobody is blaming all the world's ills on the rich. some people blame many of the US's problems on them, but not all of that is wrong either. socialistic media outlets push to narrow the income gap by increasing the wages at the bottom or asking the wealthy to pay more taxes to accommodate. i haven't heard anyone seriously debating what you're arguing erroneously against.

all of that aside, this article was a reaction to a rich guy comparing socialist leaning news publications as persecuting the rich like the nazi's persecuted the jews. it would be laughable if it wasn't so insulting to the Jews.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-27 14:36:10
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Not once in your little persecution rants did you assign even the slightest inkling of responsibility to your so-called "demonized" groups.

If the 1% don't want to be seen as villains, perhaps they should pay more attention to the disparity around them (there are some that do) or not wrap their opinions in incendiary rhetoric such as the OP.

If the Tea Party would not like to seen as racist or stupid, perhaps they should have attempted to distance themselves from those elements more thoroughly.

If Republicans would not like to be seen as woman haters, perhaps they should preoccupy themselves with something other than abortion or birth control.

that's why those cries of victimization will never be taken seriously because you will never admit a problem exists on both ends.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-01-27 14:47:07
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Well... he's still at it and being disowned by his old company and the tech industry in general.

Can't find his post(?) article (?) op-ed (?) to Bloomberg but...

HuffPo reference

Which links to this Bloomberg article about it, but neither gives his current foolishness.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-01-27 14:54:04
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If the 1% don't want to be seen as villains

but we like being the villains... what's the point of growing a sinister handlebar mustache if people don't run the other way in terror?

/steals candy from a baby and starts eating it.

though I do see your point about the republicans...maybe we should take down the sign on the door of the clubhouse...

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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 15:24:03
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Not once in your little persecution rants did you assign even the slightest inkling of responsibility to your so-called "demonized" groups.

If the 1% don't want to be seen as villains, perhaps they should pay more attention to the disparity around them (there are some that do) or not wrap their opinions in incendiary rhetoric such as the OP.

If the Tea Party would not like to seen as racist or stupid, perhaps they should have attempted to distance themselves from those elements more thoroughly.

If Republicans would not like to be seen as woman haters, perhaps they should preoccupy themselves with something other than abortion or birth control.

that's why those cries of victimization will never be taken seriously because you will never admit a problem exists on both ends.

How do you fight back against slanderous hateful vague accusations? Pleebo prove you are not a racist. Go.

Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-27 15:29:09
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Don't you know Amand? Liberals are by their definition
perfect
and as such,
they have to educate us poor working and less perfect folks like us on the things that they are. The world will never be the same without them and we should all bow to their wisdom and truth as is them.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-01-27 15:35:21
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Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.

Coming from the party so interested in destroying sex ed programs that would help to stem unplanned pregnancies, refuse to allow gay couples to raise children on account of religion and have nothing to say on reforming our adoption programs that'd keep children out of orphanages.

It's all about the children till they get born, then *** em. Bootstraps your way up the ladder.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 15:43:34
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Prolife has nothing to do with party. Those that support barbaric abortion practices will find themselves on the wring side of history just as those the don't support the rights if gay couples will be. But don't be latching onto Democrats as long time supporters of gay rights. It's been their position for about a year and a half when they sought to score political points suddenly.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-27 15:51:21
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Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.

You prefer abortions after child birth??
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-27 15:53:30
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
But don't be latching onto Democrats as long time supporters of gay rights. It's been their position for about a year and a half when they sought to score political points suddenly.


This ***is comedic gold.

There sure wasn't a Democratic president 20yrs ago who signed into law a policy that kept the military from discriminating against gays, lesbians and bisexuals. Also, Pub.L. 103–160 (10 U.S.C. § 654) wasn't signed into law until sometime last year according to you.


Bahamut.Kara said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.

You prefer abortions after child birth??


Infanticide is the traditional way of offing undesired children.

Hell, in Texas some people view it as crime that is not equal to murder:
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In 2009, Texas state representative Jessica Farrar proposed legislation that would define infanticide as a distinct and lesser crime than homicide. Under the terms of the proposed legislation, if jurors concluded that a mother's "judgment was impaired as a result of the effects of giving birth or the effects of lactation following the birth," they would be allowed to convict her of the crime of infanticide, rather than murder. The maximum penalty for infanticide would be two years in prison. Farrar's introduction of this bill prompted liberal bioethics scholar Jacob M. Appel to call her "the bravest politician in America."

So I guess one could conclude that to neo-cons infanticide is preferable to abortion.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-27 16:01:54
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
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Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.

You prefer abortions after child birth??

Abortions at anytime during pregnancy, late term, partial birth, etc. I know you know what I meant let's not get silly.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-27 16:04:34
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So I guess one could conclude that to neo-cons infanticide is preferable to abortion.
Would be true if it wasn't for the fact that she is the Democratic Caucus Leader in the Texas House of Representatives.

But wait, if a democrat attempts to pass a bill in a state run by Republicans, is that now a neo-con idea, even though it was defeated by the Republicans in power?
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By Zecilus 2014-01-27 16:06:58
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Would that be the same president that signed the Defense of Marriage Act into law Zerowone?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-27 16:10:18
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Would that be the same president that signed the Defense of Marriage Act into law?

Hey now, the point was that Democrats have been pandering to the LGBT community well before last year as someone stated. At the same time, which came first? DoMA or Don't Ask Don't Tell? Sometimes you got to appease the religious right. It's the politics of the business and the business of politics.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-27 16:12:43
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So I guess one could conclude that to neo-cons infanticide is preferable to abortion.
Would be true if it wasn't for the fact that she is the Democratic Caucus Leader in the Texas House of Representatives.

But wait, if a democrat attempts to pass a bill in a state run by Republicans, is that now a neo-con idea, even though it was defeated by the Republicans in power?

Your lack of a sense of humor is amazing.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-01-27 16:13:30
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If someone doesn't want kids, what makes you think they're going to take care of them if you force them to have a child? The mantra of the loudest prolifers is to slash public assistance programs and to force babies to be born alongside education cuts and complete removal of proven checks against unplanned pregnancy.

A recipe for starving youths who will end up in our legal system. Wonderful.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-27 16:14:26
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Prochoice will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Generations will look back on you as barbarians especially those that supported abortions any time before child birth. It is absolutely disgusting.

You prefer abortions after child birth??

Ok, Kara, this made me laugh way too hard...
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