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 Lakshmi.Sparthosx
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-01-29 14:43:37
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I don't see abortion in black and white as some people do. They want us to be pro this anti that. It is a far more complicated. To say hey I'm pro life so no matter what I'm against abortion. And for someone pro choice to say hell yes I want an abortion and I've never considered anything else.

Any reasonable person will understand that under certain conditions your pro or anti could change.

The topic is nuanced hence why pro-choice is the only logical conclusion for me. To assert that I understand the individual needs and situations of each individual person is beyond arrogant. Let the individual decide for themselves what the best choice is and let the respective organizations pro/con on the topic duel it out.

If that makes me a baby killer then hand me the forceps.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 14:46:07
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Exactly the idea that people that are pro life are crazy though is a bit much. Even if I disagree with the reasons why. Same with pro choice. I don't agree with their reasons maybe but not going to deny their rights.

If the Supreme Court says you can have an abortion until the law changes there really isn't a debate.

The only thing I would debate are the reasons for the abortion.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-29 14:53:18
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fonewear said: »
I don't see abortion in black and white as some people do. They want us to be pro this anti that. It is a far more complicated. To say hey I'm pro life so no matter what I'm against abortion. And for someone pro choice to say hell yes I want an abortion and I've never considered anything else.

Any reasonable person will understand that under certain conditions your pro or anti could change.

I agree.

I have considered myself pro-choice for years but until reading some of these articles (and from Amands post) I didn't realize that some people have defined pro-choice as no restrictions on abortions, at all, ever.

That is a little to black and white for me on this subject, and quite frankly, on most ethical/moral subjects.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 14:56:21
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I don't know how I feel about the MA law about protesting. (35 foot buffer zone) I tend to think as long as you aren't preventing someone from enter the clinic. You should be allowed to say or protest whatever you want. But on the other hand it could easily escalate to the point where people feel intimidated by the protesters and could cause violence. So I'm curious to see how that turns out.


At what point does freedom of speech become harassment. That is basically what they are arguing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 15:00:59
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That's why I'm in the pro-"I don't give a flying rat's ***" group.

Because I don't give a flying rat's *** if you have an abortion or not. If it was my wife/girlfriend and I, I would personally take responsibility for not wrapping my junk. If she wants an abortion, that's her choice and I would respect that. If she wants to keep the kid, that is also her choice and I would respect that too.

If she wants the abortion and I'm not married to her (and don't plan on marrying her for whatever reason), I would at least give her the option to take the kid myself and raise him/her as a single parent. I would even go as far as not asking for child support too. Still her choice though, and I wouldn't fight it period.

But when it comes to other people, I don't give a flying rat's ***.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-01-29 15:02:35
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
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Look closer at the numbers that fall within the margin of era they cover a shorter time span. They aren't from rvw to now and they all still agree with the statement I made originally
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:03:26
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So we solved abortion what is next illegal immigration ?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-01-29 15:04:29
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well whatever we do, no outlawing chicken abortions, I could go for an omelette right now...
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:04:56
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That chicken might have been raped though !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 15:05:00
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fonewear said: »
So we solved abortion what is next illegal immigration ?
How about something more important.

Like the economy.

/doesn't like the stock market falling but understands why it is happening..
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:06:22
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Well if I know the government like I think I do. They will work on issues that aren't important to people at the moment. So they will go to illegal immigration when people need a job.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-29 15:11:19
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fonewear said: »
I don't know how I feel about the MA law about protesting. (35 foot buffer zone) I tend to think as long as you aren't preventing someone from enter the clinic. You should be allowed to say or protest whatever you want. But on the other hand it could easily escalate to the point where people feel intimidated by the protesters and could cause violence. So I'm curious to see how that turns out.


At what point does freedom of speech become harassment. That is basically what they are arguing.

Before the zone there was a lot of threats/violence perpetrated against employees at the clinic and harassing of patients entering. At the same time the right to protest is a right I highly support.

However, the Westboro Baptist Church (and others who protest military funerals) have to keep a 300ft from military funerals and cannot protest 2 hours before or after the service. The Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2014-01-29 15:14:33
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Siren.Mosin said: »
well whatever we do, no outlawing chicken abortions, I could go for an omelette right now...

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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-29 15:18:01
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I don't know why but this one makes me laugh every time.



Kids say the funniest things
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 15:19:39
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fonewear said: »
Well if I know the government like I think I do. They will work on issues that aren't important to people at the moment. So they will go to illegal immigration when people need a job.
So, they will investigate Bridgegate now? That isn't important to the majority at the moment.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 15:20:02
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We turning this to LOL pics now?
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:33:22
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We turning this to LOL pics now?

I'm shocked anime hasn't made it in yet. Anime Obama ? Chris Christie. etc

That would be my worst nightmare anime plus Obama. I'm shivering just thinking about it.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:35:34
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-01-29 15:39:16
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Look closer at the numbers that fall within the margin of era they cover a shorter time span. They aren't from rvw to now and they all still agree with the statement I made originally

a) I don't know and can't find the full Gallup polls for each of those years to see what abortion questions are being asked before the are you pro-choice/pro-life questions.

b) Before reading some of these articles I didn't realize that pro-choice was now associated with no restrictions on abortion, which means (to me) there has been a shift on what pro-choice means to people compared to the 70's-90's. I'd like to see a poll of what pro-choice and pro-life means to people today.

c) the other polls are within the margin of error for most of the years (although the dips and spikes on both sides would be interesting to analyze with the raw data). The numbers, besides the Gallup poll which has many dips and spikes, seem to be consistently divided. One side gaining ground one year/survey and the next year/survey the other side gaining ground.

d) What I did find interesting is comparing the Fox Poll (since it is the second largest amount of data listed) against the Gallup numbers based on the years they overlaped
Gallup in 2013 showed an increase in pro-life (48%) over pro-choice (45%), but the Fox poll for the month before showed the opposite pro-life (44%) and pro-choice (49%).
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 15:49:19
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Look closer at the numbers that fall within the margin of era they cover a shorter time span. They aren't from rvw to now and they all still agree with the statement I made originally

a) I don't know and can't find the full Gallup polls for each of those years to see what abortion questions are being asked before the are you pro-choice/pro-life questions.

b) Before reading some of these articles I didn't realize that pro-choice was now associated with no restrictions on abortion, which means (to me) there has been a shift on what pro-choice means to people compared to the 70's-90's. I'd like to see a poll of what pro-choice and pro-life means to people today.

c) the other polls are within the margin of error for most of the years (although the dips and spikes on both sides would be interesting to analyze with the raw data). The numbers, besides the Gallup poll which has many dips and spikes, seem to be consistently divided. One side gaining ground one year/survey and the next year/survey the other side gaining ground.

d) What I did find interesting is comparing the Fox Poll (since it is the second largest amount of data listed) against the Gallup numbers based on the years they overlaped
Gallup in 2013 showed an increase in pro-life (48%) over pro-choice (45%), but the Fox poll for the month before showed the opposite pro-life (44%) and pro-choice (49%).

Yes and no mention of Hitler so plus one. There is probably a math equation that can determine how many pages before Hitler reference.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-01-29 15:59:58
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
How about something more important.

Like the economy.

/doesn't like the stock market falling but understands why it is happening..
The stock market has little to do with the economy. Or reality for that mater.

Full disclosure: I learned all I needed to know to play the market before I was 10. I have never bothered to utilize that knowledge.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-01-29 16:04:44
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Buy gold, the economy is going to crash completely any day now. Stock up or be left to sift through the ruins. Silver is good too!

Or so my radio says everyday.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 16:06:52
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
How about something more important.

Like the economy.

/doesn't like the stock market falling but understands why it is happening..
The stock market has little to do with the economy. Or reality for that mater.

Full disclosure: I learned all I needed to know to play the market before I was 10. I have never bothered to utilize that knowledge.

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By fonewear 2014-01-29 16:07:23
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Buy gold, the economy is going to crash completely any day now. Stock up or be left to sift through the ruins. Silver is good too!

Or so my radio says everyday.

And silver!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 16:09:22
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The stock market has little to do with the economy. Or reality for that mater.
Well, it is an indicator as the daily activities of the economy. Not a complete readout, but just one piece of the puzzle.

With the stock market bit, I was referring to the 189 point fall on the Dow today due to the Fed intervention (for good for once).

Garuda.Chanti said: »
Full disclosure: I learned all I needed to know to play the market before I was 10. I have never bothered to utilize that knowledge.
Yeah, and I bet you that it still doesn't help at all today.

Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Buy gold, the economy is going to crash completely any day now. Stock up or be left to sift through the ruins. Silver is good too!
Not sure if serious....

Gold is actually falling slightly, so buying it (and holding it) may be a good idea...at least in the long run.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 16:14:45
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Speaking of abortion related issues.


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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-01-29 16:15:42
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The real money is in buying penny stocks, feeding lies to clueless investors to inflate the value then sell sell sell.

Or just listen to Jim Cramer all day, guys entertaining as hell. He's even on a state-approved liberal channel. I'd have it no other way.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 16:16:27
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Jim Cramer told me to buy Lay's potato chips and I did it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-29 16:17:25
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
The real money is in buying penny stocks, feeding lies to clueless investors to inflate the value then sell sell sell.
Yeah, I don't advocate fraud there bub.
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By fonewear 2014-01-29 16:22:30
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I only gave her gonorrhea because I thought she would have fun with it!
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