Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

AM3 Koga, crit augment should be surpassing DA w/ Otronif, more so if pdif isn't capped.


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Fudo belts.

Metalslinger belt and I not getting along right now, so is Prosilio the next best option? If so, should I be swapping Brutal to a Vulcan's? Or how does Caudata/Light belt compare?

Light if attack is capped, Prosilio if not.

Vulcan's over Brutal is only a Koga AM3 thing.

You may still have DA from subjob trait, grip, head and/or legs, so Brutal is still giving you DA even when using Prosilio.

Seeing a lot of SAMs using Xaddi Mail (Path A mostly) I was debating making one, but when I tried spreedsheeting a few different scenarios, I couldn't find any scenario where that would have beaten my current sets (or, if it did, the gain was so little it really wouldn't be worth the inventory slot lost by bringing that). Am I missing something, or is it really not-that-good for SAM (any path)?
This are my main sets anyways atm, obvious improvements will be Otronif+1 gear and Ouryu belt for Fudo, apart from that I'm kind of fine with what I use now:
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You may not have Ionis on in the spreadsheet, a lot of those options are not very good under Ionis (like waist) and Xaddi Mail is still better than Sakonji+1 using that exact set for me by about 3 DPS. I'd really recommend switching at least the feet/waist/legs as you don't need accuracy, STP, or haste for a fodder set using Tsurumaru. The difference between Xaddi Mail and Sakonji+1 aren't overwhelmingly large but most gear upgrades aren't.

Well with respect Xaddi Mail path A and why you're seeing marginal differences compared to your tp sets is the fact you have Mes. Hauby.

You don't really have a need for it etc.

Are you 100% sure that the new TP return formula is known, and implemented in the latest spreadsheets?

afaik, It's not.

It's been a while since I jumped on SAM, but I'm pretty sure you need 33 STP with Tsurumaru to 4-hit. The spreadsheets most likely think you still need 49.

It's been implemented since June 22nd according to Motenten (it's on BG Wiki if you want to double check that), SAM spreedsheet in particular has been getting a lot of fixes in the last days. And yes, Tsuru needs 31 STP to 4-hit with Ionis and 57 without Ionis. Anyways, for the time being, I modified the NoAcc/Fodder set with Xaddi Mail Path A and Windbuffet (Legs/Feet will be Otronif+1 whenever I'm going to get them), kept the above set with Yaoyotl Helm as a LightAcc set for Delve1 bosses or things like that.

Yeah, I see where they're working out the formulas now.

Just double checked, and the spreadsheet does return the same TP/hit as I'm getting in game. (218)

Xaddi A should still beat Mes. Hauby for fodder sets, although obviously by very little. You are right though, Xaddi Body is largely about accuracy and Mes. Hauby is just straight better for that. Compared to Sak+1 though it is better as long as you don't need the STP.

3hit after first weapon skill,

250 Save TP (Tsurumaru)
Need 250TP per hit
57 Store TP Required

300 Save TP (Tsurumaru + Sakonji)
Need 234TP per hit
45 Store TP Required

350 Save TP (Tsurumaru + Ionis)
Need 217TP per hit
31 Store TP Required

400 Save TP (Tsurumaru + Sakonji + Ionis)
Need 200TP per hit
18 Store TP Required

Never got a clear answer: Koga AM3 Otronif feet aug is DA+2 or Crit+2? Or it doesnt matter really long as its not DA+2 bc i dont want DA procs going off instead of the 20% TA froom AM3?

Why do you have AM3 off as samurai is the real question here.

you average 1.8 attack round with am3 up, so double attack is an increase so don't go out of your way to avoid da.

Crit+2. With Ionis I swap to Relic 119 feet.

Due to the attacks per round of AM3, adding DA only reduces DPS unless you have over 80% DA rate. It has less impact on overall DPS than without AM3, though.

wait so whats the best tp set? >.>

Ussually, unless it's Mala or Windbuffet(or you need accuracy) just go with the piece that has the most stp(and ilvl) on it !

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is the set on front page, why brutal? and Relic feet+1 are better then otronif?
Also my legs have DA+2 should i get a diff augment?

Brutal because it's only 2 DA less than bladeborn/steelflash and you gain 4 STP in your earrings since you need it. DA2 on Otronif is fine, it's not optimal, but not by much.

We're talking 1-2 DPS differences on the spreadsheet between 2 DA and 2 Crit Otronif with AM3 up; it's not a big deal which you have. And Relic +1 feet are a bit better than Crit Otronif, but only when you have Ionis up since you need the 2% haste from it.

i see, so otro legs w/ DA+2 arent bad?

I aimed for acc on legs and da on feet since they're also good for mid acc sets if you get 8+ acc on legs and decent -dt, da on either piece isnt bad neither is acc pending content...

This is what im currently using for a low acc set, legs are acc +8 and pdt 3% and feet are da 1% and pdt.mdt 3%
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I have a question? If you can't get a Ganesha's Mala neckpiece what is other neckgear to wear besides that for the Tsurumaru Ionis build?

Asperity necklace is good too if you don't need the extra stp on that other one.

Just want to point out, nobody "can't" get Mala, it's just irritating beyond belief. It took well over 500 kills to get mine, many of them were duo/trio.

Asperity is the way to go without Mala, I found Dakatsu+1 to be basically tied with Asperity for fodder and of course it's much harder to get/expensive. For non-Fodder use Iqabi.

Why trux/brutal if koga?



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Is this the ideal Ionis set up w/ AM3 on?

This is something I have always wondered about Mythics OaT~3


Sylow did a good job of explaining the maths here..

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/31534/math-oax-multi-attack-and-you/

Multi-Attacks take precedent over OaT~3 porcs on weapons (meaning a Double attack can cancel out the attacks thrice proc on a mythic no?)

This is something I wanted to know for sure, because if that's the case, wouldn't adding double attack etc just make a mythic less powerful because you then hinder the chance for the attack's thrice to proc (taking into account the Double Attack will still add DPS against it only attacking twice).

I assume this is the premise why very few people are using Double Attack augments for Mythic sets based on this? If that's the case then the lower set


Does indeed seem to be the better set, although you could argue that anything aside from an Accuracy Augment on the otronif Legs "could" actually hinder DPS (Assuming the Double Attack formula above is correct on Mythics and Order of multi hit is


If this is the case, then Store TP gear for Mythic is more important for sets than double attack based on the TP feed from the OaT effect being more potent than any form of DA you can get your hands on, although I would sub the K'ayres Ring for the Triple Attack ring, as triple attack won't hinder the DPS on a Mythic AM3 as it can't exceed attacking Thrice.. assuming this is correct then I would use this set..

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This set assumes that You didn't get Double Attack Augments and you got Accuracy / PDT / MDT combo..

If someone has seen an error in my understanding of how Multihit/OaT works please let me know, I have yet to actually test this and am relying on my tenuous understanding of Sylows post..

I would only use Trux with Tsurumaru not Kogarasumaru