Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

Probably because it's content that is so easy now, that fun factor is more important than min maxing for efficiency, so everyone will use whatever job that provide most fun for each person.

I would argue BLU is way better than WAR, because you can aoe faster and it's where you can save more time than on boss itself and for boss specifically MNK is probably the best by far because it reduces time where Kin absorbs physical damage.

Yeah tried DRK and SAM and did more damage with SAM. Rotated Mumei,Fudo and Shoha to help with wall.

WAR was saved for KI2 for the party buffs and MS.

You can time the skillchains reliably especially if solo.
Mumei is best.
But ya I agree just go mnk and use whatever.
You can't beat penance and the tp mitigation of mnk.
Not to mention how smooth the ride is with all the hp.

Well, I don't like playing Mnk and I like playing Sam, so there is that.


That makes sense. When we tried it, it was before Kusanagi and the attempt was 1KI with Sam if I remember right.

Just spam impulse drive

Ws frequency would favor sam impulse over i assume fencer sb war, overall its whatever and mnk is indeed likely best on the fight itself just for sb limiting tp moves

Mnk can also aoe pretty effortlessly with cataclysm

Meh, you can simply Spinning Attack (use Godhands) those days. Depends on buffs it can even one shot trash, but usually 2-3 shot depends on MA proc and if you target Transcendent mobs you will kill them too at the same pace with additional damage from melee and fusion skillchain.


Still Blu is simply way better, because it's faster to execute and requires 0 buffs. It's also easier to gather mobs with all the defensive spells and you dont need to deal with positioning or engaging. 1-2 spells and all trash is dead. Also Expiacion> Savage, Tenebral is better than armor break, because it doesn't require TP and you can cast it during TP move (when you would need to stop physical damage anyway) on Kin and do magical damage while applying def down. It also means you will apply it every time Kin will erase it with Sphere.

All that being said, it's SAM thread and "go different job" advice has sense in something like Sortie thread, not here. If someone want to do this on SAM its by choice, not requirement.

It has ftp replication on each hit. You gear it towards MA proc like Howling Fist. My non MA proc are also 6-7k, but in 3WSs you usually need to kill Transcendent, trash will get hit by some MA proc at least once and they will die too.


Best for you with jobs available for you with setup available for you.

Cool apparently you don't have BLU if you think jobs you mentioned are bis for respective Omen runs. Also for example for Kei I'm almost positively sure that RDM with Diamond Aspis and Caliburnus doing infinite skillchain with Imperator and Savage Blade with every imperator doing 99k detonation would be at least a strong contender for bis job there.
I also don't see how SAM is any better than MNK for Kei if you assume right buffs when MNK is doing 5 step light where 4 out of 5 WSs hitting with full power are very strong and you can ignore Fullers completely.

Admittedly i havent used spinning attack since the h2h change so didnt even think about that being an option, i just always liked the natural AoE radius of cata/AE over the smaller ones like fell cleave or spinning attack. Should end up being similar results with the camps minus maybe transcendents being killed in 2 ws'


While i think at a baseline SAM is the easy choice as you just have a lot more wiggle room to get your SCs out there, long as the DD in question has enough haste/TP rate (so bog standard brd/cor) then they can do it pretty effortlessly, in BLUs case you can just RLB > Flat > savage over and over, itll be slower but you ideally make up much of the difference just being able to round up and 1-2 shot camps with aoes, no engaging/wsing required

SAM/NIN with Onion Blade II screaming "Ryūjin Jakka"

Tizona is a key part of BLU being better. With AM3 up you have higher WS frequency than WAR and Expiacion is stronger than Savage. Also again BLU will be mid fight with Kin, before WAR will even reach boss floor.

I guess if you SP on WAR you could maybe pull ahead on Kin itself, maybe.

DRK is another job who would destroy WAR on Kin, simply because of Arcane Circle and Scarlet delirium. Especially if you can use SP.

I would even risk theory that RDM could maybe win, simply because AddleII could significantly increase the time between tp moves.

Or behind lol

Guys, I really enjoy this engagement as there hasn't been much activity on this forum but we are gonna need to change this thread to "bullsheido - the way of the yap" at this rate.

So what feet armor you using these days.

Sounds like we should just do an omen boss challenge on each single job in the game just for the hell of it. Someone get Aragan to setup the rules and job requirements.

Show us your feet armor.