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Ark Angels II / Divine Might II (Discussion)
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-20 11:49:20
Wait an hour and find out. If nothing else, might give some insight as to how TH actually functions.
Cerberus.Spirachub
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-01-20 11:50:18
I think it means it no longer drop 4 chapters in the pool to reflect TH being effective (not sure how much sense that makes, unless TH can make it drop 1 more?)
In the jp version, there's no mention of difficulty on the first line,only in the red line. Which makes me think TH is effective for all difficulties. For anyone who's JP proficient here's the line:
Quote: バトルフィールド「★アーク・ガーディアン1~5」「★神威」において、「トレジャーハンター」の効果が適用されるようになりました。
※本調整にともない、「★アーク・ガーディアン1~5」の難易度「とてもむずかしい」でのみ、戦利品からアーティファクトの打ち直しに必要な特定のアイテムのドロップが1つ減少しています。
By Pantafernando 2014-01-20 11:54:14
They added the synthesys material to skcnm.
As they are way easier than ark angels, also a lot more accessible (one orb per party), i think those materials will get bellow 500k soon.
Soon, ark angels will be for gear farm only.
And chapters.
Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-20 11:58:16
looking at the new armor icons... could they not recycle the f'ugly gear sets???
By Pantafernando 2014-01-20 12:01:31
looking at the new armor icons... could they not recycle the f'ugly gear sets???
They ravmped hedera cotehardie.
Thats awesome.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-20 12:03:33
From the english notes, it sounds like SE added innate TH to the VD fights so you dont "need" to bring a thief to VD for TH effect. Who knows what tier of TH SE put though...
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-20 12:03:58
I really don't understand their reluctance to release armor people will actually care about chasing down.
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By Pantafernando 2014-01-20 12:07:40
From the english notes, it sounds like SE added innate TH to the VD fights so you dont "need" to bring a thief to VD for TH effect. Who knows what tier of TH SE put though...
I understand that they said: "look, thf has a role, so let them have a spot in this. You can profit if you bring one so... Bring one. Th works here."
Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-01-20 12:07:54
They added the synthesys material to skcnm.
As they are way easier than ark angels, also a lot more accessible (one orb per party), i think those materials will get bellow 500k soon.
Soon, ark angels will be for gear farm only.
And chapters. AA still yields R/E/M boxes whereas SKCNM does not. Also we do not know what the drop rate of the crafting materials will be in SKCNM just yet.
This will relieve the congestion trying to enter AA.
By pchan 2014-01-20 12:33:18
I wonder how many plutons you can pile spamming SKC20. If each of your 6 accounts has 2-3 chars with 300 SKC stockpile, knowing only one person requires an orb to enter, it can add up quickly. If you don't have skc though, too bad for you. Some of those bc take no more than 10 minutes to kill with melees and you never have congestion.
Asura.Fiv
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By Asura.Fiv 2014-01-20 12:40:20
Too bad you can't win with THFs, only MNKs.
By pchan 2014-01-20 12:44:42
Good thing noone cares about rem's then
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-20 12:53:11
if you kill in 10 min counting travel and have unlimited crests, you only get 12 single/case per hour doing skc20 vd
don't see how even you can try to compare that to 14 cases/boxes, relevant gear, etc in significantly less time.. with no limit
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-01-20 12:56:11
Good thing noone cares about rem's then
How can marrow still be best gil in game if no one care about rem ?
By cervelo84 2014-01-20 13:00:13
reminds me of the other day when I was doing AA and I proposed a strategy and the monk says "That won't work"
Typical douche answer- Provide some thought behind your answer instead of- no1 cares about rem. Such an uneducated way to approach a thread. Of course this is ffxi. Large portion of the players are very anti-social and their way of communicating is quite pathetic.
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By pchan 2014-01-20 13:45:53
So I did a VD SKC20 and got ***as usual, not even a craft mat dropped. lol @ SE and lol@ people thinking this will reduce congestion at AA. The final drops come from a chest so I doubt TH affects them either. 100 SKC for one mat anyone ? /fail.
Also the 2 new BCNM's drop seem complete garbage so that won't help for congestion.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-20 14:06:32
wah we went 0/1 on the drop, ***sucks, wah wah, gonna *** and moan in laloff instead
By pchan 2014-01-20 14:15:13
Yeah took me 10 minute to figure out why the update is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. SE's logic is that farming farming 20 merits on 6 chars = farming 20 skc on one char, totally forgetting that people can farm exp in a party aka 6 times faster than 20 skc. As a consequence they put the mat in the bc with a relatively low droprate (1/4 maybe ?).
Also forgot to say that seals coming from the new BCs are random which remove nearly 100% of the reasons to do them.
Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-01-20 14:18:52
So I did a VD SKC20 and got ***as usual, not even a craft mat dropped. lol @ SE and lol@ people thinking this will reduce congestion at AA. The final drops come from a chest so I doubt TH affects them either. 100 SKC for one mat anyone ? /fail.
Also the 2 new BCNM's drop seem complete garbage so that won't help for congestion. LOL
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-01-20 14:20:37
Also forgot to say that seals coming from the new BCs are random which remove nearly 100% of the reasons to do them.
Why would we do anything beside adl farming anyway ? Everything is buyable
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Asura.Natenn
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-01-20 14:21:32
put a leash on your countrymen ccl!
By pchan 2014-01-20 14:30:48
let's just hope easye and VE can drop mats at a decent rate so that soloer have little reasons to do laloff.
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Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2014-01-20 14:38:59
Too bad you can't win with THFs, only MNKs.
??? Are you parties HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? I have won Ark Angels on THF before today.
Also I did an Ark Angel fight once with no MNKs at all. We had PLD NIN DRG COR BRD WHM.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-20 14:41:25
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-01-20 14:41:50
Too bad you can't win with THFs, only MNKs.
??? Are you parties HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? I have won Ark Angels on THF before today.
You won VD on thf ? I don't believe you, Pchan said it wasn't possible.
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By Asura.Melbufrauma 2014-01-20 14:43:17
Too bad you can't win with THFs, only MNKs.
??? Are you parties HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? I have won Ark Angels on THF before today.
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Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2014-01-20 14:47:08
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
I have no idea what that's about lol.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2014-01-20 14:48:23
Too bad you can't win with THFs, only MNKs.
??? Are you parties HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? I have won Ark Angels on THF before today.
You won VD on thf ? I don't believe you, Pchan said it wasn't possible.
Of course I have. Solo :) Because I am Superman! Did somebody say VD Ark Angel? They just said THF can't win Ark Angels.
But the real point is, the Ark Angels will get easier over time, to the point that Thief will be brought to them for the TH.
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By Rhaq'a Zhwan 2014-01-20 14:49:33
Kylos, you're missing the joke :(
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-20 14:50:42
reread a few pages of the thread and you'll see what we mean XD
Judging by how DDs got raped by AoE on normal difficulty i think RNGs and BLMs gonna make a come back....again! That being said might be smoother to try SC+MBs, any thoughts?
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