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Ark Angels II / Divine Might II (Discussion)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-17 10:54:21
VD guarantees one piece of gear, and has a *higher chance than on D* at a second.
By pchan 2014-01-17 11:03:34
VD has very little chance at the second just like difficult. No point doing it beside boxes..
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-17 11:04:51
Maybe if you brought a rng with bounty shot or a thief with TH instead of shitty mnk/blu's
By pchan 2014-01-17 11:06:10
So you're saying you got max augs (not to mention the aug you want from a choice of 5) from +2 stones using 1-12 stones?
yes and I got 3 sets ...
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-17 11:07:07
Plutons started at 450k.
Soloing a single run gets ~65 plutons.
65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
gil is hard to make.. though admittedly some of that came from delve too
it's not like any of the people doing AA are incapable of doing ADL, it's just stupid to do something that's not only worth less but provides no gear progression aside from the gil
(before you point out my linkshell message, i do dyna one day a week and kill the pops anyone in linkshell farmed so that anyone in the linkshell has an easy way to gil.. not everyone has an AA job and obviously i'm not going to solo spam AA just to give them gil)
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By Asura.Fiv 2014-01-17 11:34:26
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Plutons started at 450k.
Soloing a single run gets ~65 plutons.
65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
gil is hard to make.. though admittedly some of that came from delve too
it's not like any of the people doing AA are incapable of doing ADL, it's just stupid to do something that's not only worth less but provides no gear progression aside from the gil
(before you point out my linkshell message, i do dyna one day a week and kill the pops anyone in linkshell farmed so that anyone in the linkshell has an easy way to gil.. not everyone has an AA job and obviously i'm not going to solo spam AA just to give them gil) Can you plz show me a video of that math with your drivers license, your grandmother witness, and you on mnk/blu, i don't believe it.
By Spiraboo 2014-01-17 11:36:25
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Plutons started at 450k.
Soloing a single run gets ~65 plutons.
65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
gil is hard to make.. though admittedly some of that came from delve too
it's not like any of the people doing AA are incapable of doing ADL, it's just stupid to do something that's not only worth less but provides no gear progression aside from the gil
(before you point out my linkshell message, i do dyna one day a week and kill the pops anyone in linkshell farmed so that anyone in the linkshell has an easy way to gil.. not everyone has an AA job and obviously i'm not going to solo spam AA just to give them gil) Can you plz show me a video of that math with your drivers license, your grandmother witness, and you on mnk/blu, i don't believe it.
It will still be declared a lie in the eyes of a french man.
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By Asura.Kese 2014-01-17 11:52:36
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Plutons started at 450k.
Soloing a single run gets ~65 plutons.
65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
gil is hard to make.. though admittedly some of that came from delve too
it's not like any of the people doing AA are incapable of doing ADL, it's just stupid to do something that's not only worth less but provides no gear progression aside from the gil
(before you point out my linkshell message, i do dyna one day a week and kill the pops anyone in linkshell farmed so that anyone in the linkshell has an easy way to gil.. not everyone has an AA job and obviously i'm not going to solo spam AA just to give them gil) Can you plz show me a video of that math with your drivers license, your grandmother witness, and you on mnk/blu, i don't believe it. Don't forget Neil taking notes.
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By Asura.Fiv 2014-01-17 11:56:17
So stupid question I am sure, but if a poor fool like myself wanted to make some gil soloing AA, could anyone provide which jobs and AA/difficulty could be soloed?
Really seeing all the people with hundreds of millions makes me want to cry in a corner somewhere.
Any info would be amazing. Ochain PLD can solo most of them on very easy, aside from EV i think, SCH can solo TT on very easy, and i think a dual box MNK+WHM, or any DD probably can do TT on very easy, and very easy has a decent synthesis material drop rate.
Edit: I've only actually done GK solo on PLD, but i've seen others entering the other ones solo on PLD pretty often, i usually have a group and can't spare the merits.
By itchi508 2014-01-17 12:16:29
So stupid question I am sure, but if a poor fool like myself wanted to make some gil soloing AA, could anyone provide which jobs and AA/difficulty could be soloed?
Really seeing all the people with hundreds of millions makes me want to cry in a corner somewhere.
Any info would be amazing. Ochain PLD can solo most of them on very easy, aside from EV i think, SCH can solo TT on very easy, and i think a dual box MNK+WHM, or any DD probably can do TT on very easy, and very easy has a decent synthesis material drop rate.
Edit: I've only actually done GK solo on PLD, but i've seen others entering the other ones solo on PLD pretty often, i usually have a group and can't spare the merits. Have done a few solo & duo for mats with spare time.
Pld + Rng on HM & GK (easy) going to do normal next. (May time out on GK)
TT we have duo on normal as 2x Rng in 15mins ish, tempted to do TT on D trio w/ brd.
EV & MR only ones that could change your strat or botch your plans. Maybe duo EV: on easy as Smn + Pld and then MR: Pld + Rng. (S.Bind MR, kill pet and kite Pld or sleep/bind bolts/arrows) (if charmed). Otherwise I would say all can be soloed on VE/E just adjust jobs accordingly.
Pld can do HM GK easily
Sch or Rng can do TT easily as long as you can play /nin and play it safe (3x shadows up at all times)
Maybe go smn or bst for MR EV.
Possible strat for MR, Pld/Rdm keep it dia and hope it doesn't regen much after charm (if it happens)
And of course pup can do all easily.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-01-17 12:43:28
So stupid question I am sure, but if a poor fool like myself wanted to make some gil soloing AA, could anyone provide which jobs and AA/difficulty could be soloed?
Really seeing all the people with hundreds of millions makes me want to cry in a corner somewhere.
Any info would be amazing. Ochain PLD can solo most of them on very easy, aside from EV i think, SCH can solo TT on very easy, and i think a dual box MNK+WHM, or any DD probably can do TT on very easy, and very easy has a decent synthesis material drop rate.
Edit: I've only actually done GK solo on PLD, but i've seen others entering the other ones solo on PLD pretty often, i usually have a group and can't spare the merits. Have done solo & duo for mats with spare time.
Pld+ rng in HM & GK on easy, going to do norm next. (May time out on GK)
TT we have duo norm 2x Rng in 15mins ish tempted to do TT on D trio w/ brd.
EV & MR only ones that could change your strat. Maybe duo EV on easy as smn + Pld and then MR Pld + rng. S.Bind NM, kill pet and kite Pld or sleep/bind bolts/arrows (if charmed). Otherwise I would say all can be soloed on VE/E just adjust jobs accordingly.
Pld can do HM GK easily
Sch or Rng can do TT easily
Maybe go smn or bst for MR EV.
Possible strat for MR, Pld/RDM dia and hope it doesn't regen much after charm (if it happens)
And of course pup can do all easily. If you pop Fealty, you won't get charmed. We did DM II on VD and saved the mithra for last. Right at 25% switch to aegis and pop fealty. RNGS blew the mithra away after the charm missed.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-17 12:45:44
I dont think thats really a feasable strat, since MR has been known to charm from anywhere between 25 and 50% of her HP.
By itchi508 2014-01-17 12:51:08
I dont think thats really a feasable strat, since MR has been known to charm from anywhere between 25 and 50% of her HP. I have heard this strat a few times, I been thinking of re meriting fealty, although like said above charm is random. My experiences MR usually charms between 40-50% but others may experience a different fight where she does it at 25%. Another solution to duo I thought of is Pld remove his sword around 50% so he won't be a threat to the Rng, but this may not go as planned as again she can charm between 25-50% which is a long time to be weapon-less wondering if she is even going to use charm.
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-01-17 13:23:00
VD has very little chance at the second just like difficult. No point doing it beside boxes.. there's no point doing it at all unless you flat out suck
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-01-17 13:29:06
Congratulate them on making a relic 119 that is used excludively in a bc that rewards 15k gil most of the time. maby is you spam normal or are constantly not getting cases on difficult, how do get 15k only per run? 1 pluton is 150k+
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-17 13:36:03
I dont think thats really a feasable strat, since MR has been known to charm from anywhere between 25 and 50% of her HP. With RNGs, you can pretty much rely on it. Overkill will let you drop 15-20% in fealty's 1:20 duration. I usually pop fealty at 45%, I've been charmed before it once or twice but I just dia2 and hymnus, reengage second charm wears since PLD is still unweak and rng loses no damage weakened
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By Asura.Loire 2014-01-17 13:38:42
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »I dont think thats really a feasable strat, since MR has been known to charm from anywhere between 25 and 50% of her HP. With RNGs, you can pretty much rely on it. Overkill will let you drop 15-20% in fealty's 1:20 duration. I usually pop fealty at 45%, I've been charmed before it once or twice but I just dia2 and hymnus, reengage second charm wears since PLD is still unweak Shadowbind works well in case the charm squeaks in. Can just sleep the pet with the brd or cor and kill it when charm wears.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-17 13:41:01
that seems slower to me, mithra is back in the center and rngs are rebuffed and ready to go when charm wears if you hymnus(pld gets aggro hate again)
either way, it's a trivial fight with rng, don't even have to pay attention
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2014-01-17 13:46:38
For single AA MR charm I sleep both the PLD and pet immediately with double Light Shot and the RNGs alternate Shadowbind on the MR. With AF gloves it lasts 40-42 seconds pending upgrade which is 20-24 seconds longer than charm duration so it gives the PLD a little bit of time to attempt to get hate back before the second bind wears off. For DM it should drop from 50% to 25% or lower before Fealty even wears off with how many RNG you have.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-01-17 13:47:54
I dont think thats really a feasable strat, since MR has been known to charm from anywhere between 25 and 50% of her HP. I have heard this strat a few times, I been thinking of re meriting fealty, although like said above charm is random. My experiences MR usually charms between 40-50% but others may experience a different fight where she does it at 25%. Another solution to duo I thought of is Pld remove his sword around 50% so he won't be a threat to the Rng, but this may not go as planned as again she can charm between 25-50% which is a long time to be weapon-less wondering if she is even going to use charm. Removing your sword is the same as predicting when to pop fealty. If the mithra does perfect dodge first, then that leaves charm as long as you don't use any 1 hrs then she can use larceny to steal them.
If you have a RNG with you, then I would shadowbind the mithra and run away. When the PLD uncharms, kill the pet so the pet's hate is reset on the PLD. You could have the PLD tank in a Mollusca mantle to lower his speed movement.
By pchan 2014-01-17 15:16:26
for charm, sleep the mnk let the other(s) tank it. Never had a problem. You know almost exactly when it's going to happen. I don't remember exactly since I farmed felistris mask long ago but charm always happened at 30 ish percent and doesn't last very long either.
By pchan 2014-01-17 15:32:16
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
Abyssea exp is ***, exp campaign is over you don't cycle anything in 45 minutes. Anyway I think you did 3 different maths with 3 different results ? First you said 14M an hour, then 20 then 30. That's pretty hilarous.
In reality it's going to be 45 min to farm exp whatever your ashittea skillz are, maybe 15 minutes for galka. So 14M an hour 6-boxing at best due to the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE congestion.
Next SE is going to put boxes into skc, the price will be divided by 2. They are probably going to add ways to get them from eminence etc.
In reality you guys don't break 10M an hour. It's good money but no it's not worth it.
By Pantafernando 2014-01-17 16:06:11
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »65 * .45 = 29m in less than an hour, and about 60% at crafting mat = 30.5m average
even now, it's 65 * .2 = 13M + 60% at crafting mat = ~14.5m and have merit>clear down to a 40-45 minute cycle = 19.3m/hr
Abyssea exp is ***, exp campaign is over you don't cycle anything in 45 minutes. Anyway I think you did 3 different maths with 3 different results ? First you said 14M an hour, then 20 then 30. That's pretty hilarous.
In reality it's going to be 45 min to farm exp whatever your ashittea skillz are, maybe 15 minutes for galka. So 14M an hour 6-boxing at best due to the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE congestion.
Next SE is going to put boxes into skc, the price will be divided by 2. They are probably going to add ways to get them from eminence etc.
In reality you guys don't break 10M an hour. It's good money but no it's not worth it.
Why do you care about others lifes?
I dont give a ***if you guys get 1g per year or 1bil per min, and im sure 99,9999% of people here think the same.
This thread became a useless money maker babbling, with everyone wanting to rant his *** is bigger than the others.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-17 16:16:47
everyone wanting to rant his *** is bigger than the others Welcome to society. Where it isn't what you do for your country, it is how big your *** is measured....
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2014-01-17 16:34:29
If ADL is 10M gil per hour, how much gil do you make in 15 hours of farming ADL?
20m because you cant do dynamis indefinitely.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-01-17 16:36:01
estimates at different prices come out differently? who would have thought
go on with your adl then, this thread doesn't concern you.. we're all just too stupid to understand how much gil we're making
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2014-01-17 16:54:04
i hear farming dhalmel ***is good gil.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-01-17 17:02:57
Also if you want to argue abyssea exp is ***, do morta in between AAs. Theoretically much faster exp if you suckless and don't have slow people. (2.5min kills with 2 rng/nin as our main damage, one didn't even have proper sets for meleeing)
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-01-17 21:34:28
BREAKING NEWS FROM FRANCE
Judging by how DDs got raped by AoE on normal difficulty i think RNGs and BLMs gonna make a come back....again! That being said might be smoother to try SC+MBs, any thoughts?
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