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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-16 12:00:16

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Tbest said:

Ashman said:

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Ashman said:

Also, i may be mistaken but doesnt INT still affect the chance for landing debuffs even for whm's mind based debuffs like para?

INT does nothing for MND based enfeebs such as paralyze. INT would be for something more like sleep. There is no spell that I know of that requires both MND and INT, unless there is some whacky BLU spell that does.

Really? So does MND affect the chance to land for para AND the proc rate or is the chace to land based solely on enfeebling skill?

To OP: sorry for the massive derail but this is pertinent to my interests :<

Int and Mnd affect Magic Accuracy for their various spells as well as potency.

I know this gonna sound conterversial but I've always noticed a significant effect on macc with int and the "mnd enfeebles". Like to the point where eating a melon pie can take my resist rate from 30-50% to more like 10 for day after day at one point. I've heard alot of stuff saying mnd doesn't effect macc at all of enfeebles just potentcy so you gotta balance enfeebling skill/macc and mnd on those.

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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2009-07-16 12:47:10

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i had previously heard that INT was a factor for macc on mnd enfeebles as well which is why i was being inquisitive.

ill start a new thread so we can stop derailing the OP's question

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By Seraph.Yenyoju 2009-07-19 10:47:52

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Thanks ffor all the replies, a lot of food for thought!

Got the Omega ring in the end after alot of consideration, though for sure Iota is next :)

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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-07-19 10:52:02

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Argettio said:

Edit 2:
I think there is 1-2 BLU mage spells that are modded by both MND and INT (but I maybe wrong)

Four, actually. Death Ray, Blitzstrahl, Maelstrom, and Firespit.

EDIT: Maybe through Regurgitation in there, but that might be just MND.

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By Cerberus.Savannah 2009-07-19 11:06:23

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Yenyoju said:

Thanks ffor all the replies, a lot of food for thought!

Got the Omega ring in the end after alot of consideration, though for sure Iota is next :)

Congratulations!! \o/

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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-19 23:34:22

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Azulmagia said:

Argettio said:

Edit 2:
I think there is 1-2 BLU mage spells that are modded by both MND and INT (but I maybe wrong)

Four, actually. Death Ray, Blitzstrahl, Maelstrom, and Firespit.

EDIT: Maybe through Regurgitation in there, but that might be just MND.

Off topic and bumping an old dead thread, but...

I was under the impression that blitz, maelstrom and firespit were INT only, no idea about death ray. Either way, none of them are worth using in 99.99% of situations imo.

Also Regurgitation seems like INT as well to me, but I don't exactly have an awesome INT build and I'm speaking from experience, so it could be anything.

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-20 01:29:48

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Blazza said:

Off topic and bumping an old dead thread, but...

I was under the impression that blitz, maelstrom and firespit were INT only, no idea about death ray. Either way, none of them are worth using in 99.99% of situations imo.

Also Regurgitation seems like INT as well to me, but I don't exactly have an awesome INT build and I'm speaking from experience, so it could be anything.

20% MND 20% INT and I believe there's a dINT calculation on it. Regurgitation is 30% MND but checks dINT rather than dMND, making INT far more potent to stack than MND (though most of our best options stack both).

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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-20 02:28:32

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How the hell people work this sorta stuff out is beyond me, my INT and MND builds are almost exactly the same anyway, so w/e :D

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-20 02:31:48

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Blazza said:

How the hell people work this sorta stuff out is beyond me, my INT and MND builds are almost exactly the same anyway, so w/e :D

Use the same spell on lvl 0 mobs over and over then changing a variable here a little then a little more then changing another then another etc etc etc. Then doing some math to find the relationship. Read extreme tedium