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 Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra
Server: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3723
By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2010-01-26 22:41:08
I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o'
 Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:42:22
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o' It does very well. You still accumulate hate the same it just doesn't affect your actions. Definitely been pwned by a few atonements lol.
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 22:45:56
I havent played PvP in ages, but I dont think my gear is up to par, especially against hardcore nutjobs.
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:47:23
Ramuh.Dasva said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o' It does very well. You still accumulate hate the same it just doesn't affect your actions. Definitely been pwned by a few atonements lol. Yeah. Just because mobs are programmed to go toward the PC with the most enmity at the moment, positive enmity is created in PvP in the same way. Enmity is enmity. PC vs NPC the rules of positive enmity is to go after that source. Magic, job abilities, dmg, etc. still gives off that "friction" on players.
Bahamut.Rumaha
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10000
By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:48:53
I think u can go above 750 when you have like 200%~ tp
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:49:55
/bitchslap Rumaha
NO! Do not be a nub PLD!
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:51:51
On a lighter note, I never see you on XBL anymore, Rumaha. Did you delete me? /cry
Bahamut.Rumaha
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10000
By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:51:56
Asura.Zekky said: /bitchslap Rumaha
NO! Do not be a nub PLD!
I said think not do!
Bahamut.Rumaha
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10000
By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:52:47
Asura.Zekky said: On a lighter note, I never see you on XBL anymore, Rumaha. Did you delete me? /cry
No I just don't turn on my Xbox often lol, been busy.
I could never delete you ; ;
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:53:02
There are several ways to go above 750.
Anyway gdi *** mobs have taken over like 14 zones in the past this week.
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:53:22
Bahamut.Rumaha said: Asura.Zekky said: /bitchslap Rumaha
NO! Do not be a nub PLD!
I said think not do! Well the thought was nubish... I had to slap... Still love you. <3
But no that isn't how it works. It's a constant dmg based on your enmity that caps at 750. Only Holy Circle on undead and specific mobs will receive more than 750. I got a SS somewhere to show what I mean. Brb with them.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:56:02
Speaking of which thanks to the circle update you think bst will get more endgame mob zerg time? I mean giving AOE +15% dmg is kinda crazy good
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:57:53
First one is a SS of a SCNM fight. Second is a goldfish. Wee.
Bahamut.Rumaha
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10000
By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:58:45
DMG varies with TP D:<
Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:03:39
Really hate this nm being immune to magic dmg sometimes
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
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Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:05:13
Bahamut.Rumaha said: DMG varies with TP D:<
Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE. Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find.
Bahamut.Rumaha
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10000
By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 23:05:34
Well shoulda done this before;
Modifiers
Atonement's damage is related directly to the amount of total Enmity accumulated against a monster.
Rough formula: Damage = (Volatile Emity + Cumulative Emnity) x TP Multiplier
The damage from Volatile Enmity and Cumulative Enmity are both capped independently at 360. Together, the overall damage for Atonement is capped at 720 at 100% TP.
+Enmity gear or merits do not affect Atonement damage directly - only indirectly, due to increased accumulation of Enmity.
Damage Increased by
Cerberus family
Correlating Circle Protections
Counterstance active on mob
In the Name of Science Gorgets
Damage Reduced by
Magic Barrier
Mana Screen
Polar Bulwark
Rampart
Spectral Barrier
No effect
Magic Defense Bonus
Shell
 Diabolos.Rydiya
Server: Diabolos
Game: FFXI
Posts: 13469
By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:14:10
Doot, doot, doot...
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:15:29
do do do do dooooooo... doot!
Diabolos.Rydiya
Server: Diabolos
Game: FFXI
Posts: 13469
By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:17:01
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: do do do do dooooooo... doot! Basically.. I'm bored of this pld talk.
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:17:50
same here, I wanna talk about other stuff, like aching calves, or Watchmen, or poon.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:21:25
Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo +2 resist blind weskit
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 23:22:21
Ramuh.Dasva said: Bahamut.Rumaha said: DMG varies with TP D:<
Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE. Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find. Because there is none... It's solely based on enmity. ; ;
And even with the sea gorget, it would be hard to test that because you could have something different or got hit for a different amount of dmg that would have effected enmity.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:23:04
DIRTY GLORY HOLES!
Asura.Zekky
Server: Asura
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Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 23:28:50
Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo 2 resist blind weskit You haven't gotten INT+ yet?
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:32:26
Asura.Zekky said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Bahamut.Rumaha said: DMG varies with TP D:< Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE. Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find. Because there is none... It's solely based on enmity. ; ;
And even with the sea gorget, it would be hard to test that because you could have something different or got hit for a different amount of dmg that would have effected enmity. Are you saying with low amounts of emnity that 100% and 300% would do the same dmg?
Also testing with sea gorget or in general is easy. Use mobs that wont deal dmg to you (/rdm for phalanx would help). Cast a spell with decent CE. Allow enough time for VE to decay and atonement at a certain same tp. Then try again with a little more CE. Or gorget. Or tp. Changing 1 thing at a time. If my pld was 75 I could have this done in an hour or so.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:34:14
Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:34:16
Asura.Zekky said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo 2 resist blind weskit You haven't gotten INT yet? I got +3 int at about number 18. Got +2int at number 40ish. Going for 5 or 6 before I start doing other equip. That way I'll have 1 less reason to care about salvage. That and I got alot of left over weskits from trying to HQ lol
Diabolos.Rydiya
Server: Diabolos
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Posts: 13469
By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:37:55
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie. Anything's better than nothing at all.
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:39:35
Diabolos.Rydiya said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie. Anything's better than nothing at all.
yup, but if I had a huge ***, I would wanna be nude throughout the movie too lol
I know... its sad.
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree
Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present
Pics worth referencing: 
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Fenrir.Scragg said: Code Rowland 29488 2007-06-24 16:06:00
Ludoggy 26597 2009-02-25 22:31:23
Flionheart 22174 2008-11-17 14:28:15
Krizz 22085 2007-06-30 15:22:38
Haseyo 20875 2009-01-12 15:55:51
Dameshi 19807 2009-02-17 10:29:14
Urial 18636 2008-02-09 01:15:03
Spence 18475 2009-05-04 11:26:27
Kalyna 15001 2010-01-21 11:40:04
Rydiya 13469 2008-05-16 05:24:33
Alyria 12656 2007-10-23 10:58:35
Tigerwoods 10807 2007-03-14 21:10:43
Enternius 10382 2007-08-10 04:14:29
Slipispsycho 10072 2008-09-05 08:56:34
Rumaha 10000 2009-02-20 13:28:03
Kojo 9060 2007-06-30 17:46:02
Sevourn 8567 2009-02-10 00:10:20
Cheyne 8527 2007-04-27 12:27:54
Mabrook 8356 2008-07-01 00:53:38
Marzbarz 7723 2010-01-10 14:12:5
Join date added, banned users filtered.
Cool stuff Scragg added: 4/20/12 Code
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