Zimmerman Verdict In...

Unfortunately, clothing affects minorities more than Caucasians and it has happened multiple times regardless who's beneath the clothing.

Practically everyone would assume that a minority wearing something like a hoodie, baggy pants, or plaid shirts or other gangbanger-affiliated attire is up to no good. It's sadly been like this for many decades.

People are very quick to assume the worse if they see a Hispanic-American, African-American, or Asian-American walk into your local 7-11 if they're not wearing "proper attire." Police officers are the same way and are the worst at this when it comes to racial profiling.

This country will never have improved race relations if people continue with racial profiling. And, racial profiling will continue if minorities in lower income neighborhoods continue to contribute to their crime rates. Thus, cycle keeps going on and on.

All of that has to be fixed in some manner, in any way possible.

Until then, there will be more Zimmermans and Treyvons out there. I am sure Zimmerman already assumed Treyvon was up to no good just not only being a minority in a predominantly Caucasian neighborhood but by his attire as well.

the idea that this was ever about race is a pure farce...

a lot of the problems are a lot of the problems that face a lot of impoverished people, regardless of color. However I will concede that in the inner cities it's pretty ***.

one of those where the governor should step in.

That case cracks me up with the warning shots; oh, she JUST fired warning shots?

You never *** fire warning shots -- that's how you get innocent people killed because you're being a dumbass that doesn't want to kill someone but wants to pretend that they would someone.

Christ, people are stupid.

always shoot for the kill

What DIRECTLY starts the conversation is the need for one (Zimmerman getting out of his car and following someone without ever making himself known as a NW person or a concerned resident or otherwise going "Hey, you! who are you? Do you live around here?".) He DIRECTLY disobeyed "advice" from a 911 operator (which more than likely would've dispelled any occurrence of the supposed jumping) and his own actions led to his injuries and this whole event. You can go in circles blaming the possible-thug-black-kid-cause-it-sounds-right without blaming the off-white-idiot-who-walked-into-a-situation-he-created.

Not everyone wants to kill someone when they draw a weapon. While for one person a precise shot to the abdomen is a solution, others just want the person to back the *** off and usually thats what a warning shot in the air is for. Or one aimed at the ground.

what the *** does this have to do with political affiliation?

If you don't want to kill, you don't draw; warning shots are the *** that send bullets through windows and into the skulls of passerbys.

Warning shots are the shots that hit metal beams and bounce into your child's room. They're not needed. You don't fire unless you're aiming to kill.

I seen this verdict coming since more evidence was released. The media sure did try making TM look like a cute little kid. When really it was some what far from the truth. All I'm asking is that we get honest reports when it comes down to these kind of things. It's sad people play the race card, yet the exact opposite thing happened to a white guy and it didn't get attention like this.


Where is the outrage for that? He killed an Iraqi Vet... There was no outrage because it wasn't a "civil rights" case. Sadly this is how people view race in this country..

somebody needs to reread the course of events, go back a few pages.

Fire a warning shot and you are going to be the one arrested.

Seriously, I agree with the sentiment of "I don't want to kill him but he needs to get away", but warning shots are illegal for a reason: they don't kill the target, but it's really, really easy for them to hurt someone that's unrelated to the incident.

So shoot the person instead? Even if you just want them to *** off? Shooting a warning shot anywhere not up or down seems kinda stupid but what do I know.

It seems basically any time you draw a weapon it should be to kill even if you're simply defending yourself then.

Quality self defense ammo is too expensive to fire a warning shot anyways..

Ding ding ding we have a winner. Otherwise just brandishing a firearm in public is a crime.

make sure it's for a kill, even if one gets past via self defense, there's numerous charges for even a single shot. Not to mention civil suits...

Reminds me of the time I was at the mall in Manhattan Beach. Was hanging out with a friend from XI on my birthday and after she left, my brother was maybe an hour late in picking me up. I was on the bench outside of the mall for maybe 45 minutes, wearing a beanie lol.

Mall security called the cops on me; 4 cop cars roll up and the first thing they ask me is if I have a home.

Ask for my id, go to grab it then hear "HANDS WHERE WE CAN SEE EM" lol.

Then when they saw my ID that I was from Florida and just visiting, they started treating me like a person

If you want them to *** off, you brandish a baseball bat, not a gun. The gun is used when you know you're in danger and could be in a situation where you have to permanently stop a target.

On the emphasized, it's not even safe to shoot up or down. You'd be shocked what there is in your house, in the ground that'll cause a ricochet into your neighbors house, your kids' room, whatever.

But basically, the bolded. If you're getting ready to draw the gun, you have to get ready to kill.

Easiest solution is don't carry a gun unless you are willing to use it and face the consequences of your actions.

well in all fairness you are a borderline bum.

Wasn't at the time; this was 4 years ago

Where I live we have plenty of white teenagers behaving badly. As an excercise, lets look at the conversation Zimmerman had with the Dispatcher, and remove the line where the Dispatcher asks about Trayvon's race.


Wandering around looking at houses is something that, in itself, I don't consider suspicious. Doing it at night, in the rain, I do. We've got plenty of white folks and methamphetamine where I live, so to me the idea that Trayvon's skin color is the only reason he was followed does not hold water. Here Martin's actions would have sent up red flags regardless of his skin color. Is it still possible that Zimmerman racially profiled Martin? Yes, but we have zero evidence to support that claim.

The only point that night in which we have any evidence of racial prejudice is Rachel Jenteal's testimony that Martin referred to Zimmerman as a "creepy *** cracker." I can't speak for others, but I personally find that term both racially charged and offensive.

When I first heard about this incident, I heard a version of the conversation with the dispatcher that had been edited, to sound as if Zimmerman acted based on the color of Martin's skin. It seemed like obvious racial profiling at the time, but now that the actual evidence come forth in an unedited form, I feel duped.

The only reason Race is an issue in this shooting is because we've made it one.

A baseball bat doesn't carry the show of force that a gun does, especially in the hands of a woman when put beside a man who isn't afraid of said woman to begin with.

It isn't as easy to shoot your husband as you guys are making it. There are emotions involved and perhaps a sincere desire to resolve the situation without dialing up the violence to kill. But hey, given the result she should have double tapped him.

You really need to stop acting like just because it achieved the necessary result doesn't mean it wasn't an absolutely, colossally irresponsible thing to do.

You do realize, there's not always a good outcome, right?

This. I hate guns. Just got out of the military after 12 years and 3 deployments. I hate guns. I will never own any.

Now don't hate. I will not advocate against guns either^^

I never said it was. All I said is everyone speaking about shooting a person like they are a clay target is ridiculous.

20 years in prison for that is ridiculous as well. But hey, this is America and the only thing we love more than curly fries is our desire to send people to warehouse prisons.

so where do you live?