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 Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-10 12:35:39
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If you think weapons like Oatixur and Tsurumaru are going to be outdated in a month (or two or three), then you don't understand the content level outline they're structuring new content around. We know that the top-of-the-line gear available today is going to stay that way until the release of 120+ level content.
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-07-10 12:37:31
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If you think weapons like Oatixur and Tsurumaru are going to be outdated in a month (or two or three), then you don't understand the content level outline they're structuring new content around. We know that the top-of-the-line gear available today is going to stay that way until the release of 120+ level content.

and that gear will be top o' the line until 140+ level content. I think most of the dissentors get it, they just don't like it.

(this opinion is possibly just internalized non-sense)
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-07-10 12:38:10
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
*footnote

Ashman & I are not blazed's mules.

OR ARE WE?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *** ! MIND. BLOWN.
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By Blazed1979 2013-07-10 13:01:51
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When I go to the gym each morning and work on whatever body part, I know its going to stay with me for the rest of my life, baring some accident causing me to be injured or suffer limb loss.

Its pretty much the same with everything we do in life, from academics, to relationships, to career growth and professional development.

FFXI used to tap into that Human ambition. It rightly did so because the game's appeal was entrenched in long term character development.

Events weren't exciting enough to get your adrenaline pumping. Those that were, such as HNM claiming/mpking/ballista were either phased out, or never achieved much success.

Event's were also not difficult, and still really aren't.

XI was never about excitement or difficulty. Its niche appeal was commitment - long term.

That was all cancelled and tossed out the window with SoA. So of course, as stated previously, a lot of us have moved on.

Our characters used to represent achievement and status, earned by dedication and resolve. By any means necessary, Ethical or unethical.

Now, the game is more like Angry Birds. Beat the new level of content, get new types of birds you can throw at the pigs and walls. Once you've finished the level, move onto the next challenge.

Additionally, the game used to be a lot bigger. Not in size, but in relevancy.

Someone starting pre-SoA could have plotted and experienced their way through 90% of the game's content, arriving in the end to end game content such as legion for large group content and NNI/Nsalvage for smaller groups.

I'm not saying true end game was by any means fulfilling.
I hated it. But I still logged on to help friends who were farming relics, better gear, mythics and empyreans.
I used to get a great sense of satisfaction from doing so. Even though I had pretty much capped out and there were only a few things I could get to improve my own character.

They could have continued to provide content that was in touch with everything they had previously released.

SoA is pretty much a new game, with nothing to do with the previous 11 years of XI.

EDIT: Not moaning or whining. I'm really fine with how things are. The fact that there really isn't much care or remorse over FFXI's current state and direction just reassures me that I'm truly gone and disconnected from the game. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion I can share.
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-07-10 13:27:00
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All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-10 13:30:16
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Blazed1979 said: »
When I go to the gym each morning and work on whatever body part, I know its going to stay with me for the rest of my life, baring some accident causing me to be injured or suffer limb loss.

As someone who played strong side linebacker in hs (only ~12 years ago), I have some bad news for you about muscle tone.
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By Blazed1979 2013-07-10 13:33:18
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
When I go to the gym each morning and work on whatever body part, I know its going to stay with me for the rest of my life, baring some accident causing me to be injured or suffer limb loss.

As someone who played strong side linebacker in hs (only ~12 years ago), I have some bad news for you about muscle tone.

Stem cells,HGH, roids and black-market fetus juice - do you even lift brah?
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-10 13:47:53
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I expected a "brah" in there somewhere, and I was left severely dissapoint.
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By Asura.Solara 2013-07-10 16:02:07
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What bothers me is that the key items to purchase top tier weapons can easily be purchased from high end LSs. And of the course the AH ones are pretty much the same deal.

The new content is fun but how items are obtained...meh.

Yeah, they should have made it like Relics and Empyreans, where you couldn't just buy it with... oh wait.

We should replace this thread with a single image and save everyone a lot of time:

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By Blazed1979 2013-07-10 16:42:55
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Asura.Solara said: »
Lakshmi.Feint said: »
What bothers me is that the key items to purchase top tier weapons can easily be purchased from high end LSs. And of the course the AH ones are pretty much the same deal.

The new content is fun but how items are obtained...meh.

Yeah, they should have made it like Relics and Empyreans, where you couldn't just buy it with... oh wait.

We should replace this thread with a single image and save everyone a lot of time:


I don't see how some screen captures of Leo D is intended to be derogatory.

Leo has had more pu$$y, money, fame and recognition than everyone on this thread combined.

Maybe you missed your intended mark?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-07-10 16:48:28
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Blazed1979 said: »
Asura.Solara said: »
Lakshmi.Feint said: »
What bothers me is that the key items to purchase top tier weapons can easily be purchased from high end LSs. And of the course the AH ones are pretty much the same deal.

The new content is fun but how items are obtained...meh.

Yeah, they should have made it like Relics and Empyreans, where you couldn't just buy it with... oh wait.

We should replace this thread with a single image and save everyone a lot of time:


I don't see how some screen captures of Leo D is intended to be derogatory.

Leo has had more pu$$y, money, fame and recognition than everyone on this thread combined.

Maybe you missed your intended mark?

Speak for yourself.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-07-10 16:49:57
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How to keep REM relevant (new trial)

Obtain 4000000000000 Plasm to upgrade dmg +1
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-10 16:52:50
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Asura.Solara said: »

I saw this and automatically thought "OMG FANGIR....BOY ALERT!!!"

/lurks on
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-10 16:53:39
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Asura.Ccl said: »
All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
....wait, it was good once?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-07-10 16:54:42
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somebodyloved said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
....wait, it was good once?

99 was yes.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-10 17:09:53
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somebodyloved said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
....wait, it was good once?

Just when you think the thread can't get any more stupid you get this.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-07-10 17:22:10
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Lotz of hate here! Lol
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-10 17:23:41
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
How to keep REM relevant (new trial)

Obtain 4000000000000 Plasm to upgrade dmg +1


for rank 1.

I stretched the universe, dont kill me!
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-10 17:28:27
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What about my Reverend Mail?! I got it when it was like... SUPER hard to get! I want my upgrade!!!!
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-10 17:30:07
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
somebodyloved said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
....wait, it was good once?

Just when you think the thread can't get any more stupid you get this.

Excuse me for coming back after 2 years. When I left, the level cap was 95 and Masamune was still weak.

Also, I don't SAM.
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By Asura.Fondue 2013-07-10 17:33:10
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gonna last real long on here again shitposting
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-07-10 17:40:37
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Ok clowns, what great katana, at level, say, 90 cap, was better than Masamune?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-10 17:45:47
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verethragna

also ukonvasara

its not like sam offered anything unique mnk or war couldn't do, it had ***procs too
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-10 17:48:17
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somebodyloved said: »
Siren.Knivesz said: »
somebodyloved said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
All I'm reading is Q.Q MY MASAMUNE WHY IS YOU BAD NOW Q.Q!
....wait, it was good once?

Just when you think the thread can't get any more stupid you get this.

Excuse me for coming back after 2 years. When I left, the level cap was 95 and Masamune was still weak.

Also, I don't SAM.

Gonna assume you were just trying to troll anyway cause a logical person wouldn't make a comment like that (especially if what you say is true and you don't even use SAM) unless they are just trying to incite a reaction. Even at 95 Masamune was a top 2 or 3 GK.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-10 17:52:45
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
verethragna

also ukonvasara

its not like sam offered anything unique mnk or war couldn't do, it had ***procs too

No one is saying sam was better than those jobs because of Masamune, nor that Masamune was better than those emps you mentioned. You can argue whether or not sam was useful before the SoA era when compared to those jobs but you cannot argue that Masamune was not among the top 2 or 3 weapons for the job, that's just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-07-10 17:52:54
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Yeah, or thief or blu or drg or any dd. That wasn't the question, was it? I was expecting something stupid that made the point for me that at the time, Masamune was top 2-3 GKs at worst. I wasn't ready for this kind of stupid. Whatever. You guys play your "Tut tut Masamune? I was cooler than that from day one" game today, and your "I never EVER wanted an Tsurumaru or Ichijinto" game tomorrow.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-10 17:55:10
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pretty sure any argument that masamune is good hinges on the job that uses it being good.. a good weapon needs to do comparable dps to the other good weapons of the time.. otherwise how is it a good weapon..?

that's like claiming mjollnir is a good weapon because it's the best option for whm melee(idk if that's even true, but yea)
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-10 18:02:55
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
pretty sure any argument that masamune is good hinges on the job that uses it being good.. a good weapon needs to do comparable dps to the other good weapons of the time.. otherwise how is it a good weapon..?

that's like claiming mjollnir is a good weapon because it's the best option for whm melee(idk if that's even true, but yea)
Yeah, that was my point.

But people have to be literal...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-10 18:04:00
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It's funny seeing people still complaining about new gear that is reasonable to get. Then again, I come from a different time, different generation...


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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-10 18:17:20
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
pretty sure any argument that masamune is good hinges on the job that uses it being good.. a good weapon needs to do comparable dps to the other good weapons of the time.. otherwise how is it a good weapon..?

that's like claiming mjollnir is a good weapon because it's the best option for whm melee(idk if that's even true, but yea)

By this logic then only Warrior and Dark Knight are capable of having a good weapon then with the only noticeable exception being mythic sam and drg once they fix R/M/E because of their aftermath effects. The jobs are not balanced at all, so I disagree with this comparison of the weapon to another job's top weapon as a basis in determining whether or not said weapon is useful for the job. Ranger will never keep up with war or drk in zerg situations (capped haste/buffs yada yada yada) so does that mean annihilator is garbage? By your reasoning it seems to be.
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