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 Bismarck.Brotz
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By Bismarck.Brotz 2009-07-03 13:08:00
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I'm a thf close to 71 now and wondering if evisceration is worth it to unlock. A few people that i have talked to says that they like dancing edge better than Evis. So is it worth my time to unlock it?? what do you guys think and if you use it which do you prefer and how and where is it better than dancing edge? your thoughts are welcome! be nice though!
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-07-03 13:09:05
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On mobs with lower evasion Evis can dish out some really decent numbers since additional TP account to critical hit chance while DE TP mods account for additional accuracy. It's worth having but like everything else in the game, it's conditional.
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By Asura.Xedal 2009-07-03 13:19:21
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Its better than Savage Blade, all I can say on the matter. >.>
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By Odin.Mooner 2009-07-03 13:24:18
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Ive seen evis do really good dmg it can depend on your gear and stuff too like X's Knife could help out the dmg of evis but it really depends if the hits crit or not in the ws where as dancing edge dmg is there just depends on your acc so dancing edge is more consistant also evis is used to make darkness skillchain so if you do endgame stuff can be very helpful (for tanks and blms^.^)
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By Odin.Blackthanos 2009-07-03 13:25:37
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I agree with what Artemicion said. I know it sounds cliche but almost everything in this game is situational..lol. I have a 75 thf and in my opinion it is one of the few quested WS that is actually worth getting. As long at you have good acc(since it is a 5 hit attack) and a decent dex build your golden, more or less anyway. Not to mention you can do darkness SC's with it. Always good to have options.
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By Hades.Feix 2009-07-03 13:34:18
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darkness.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-07-03 13:36:41
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Evisceration isn't as good as DE in my experience on a lot of mobs, but sometimes it's pretty uber. You should get it anyways, I mean, why not, it's free, and if you can get a partner to SC with, you can get 5 point SC's and break the latent in like 2 or 3 hours...
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-07-03 13:37:27
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Meh. I unlocked it on WAR for shits and giggles; it's enjoyable. If you don't like the numbers it dishes out, like others said. It DOES do Darkness making you a lot more useful since you can now do both Light AND Dark. And if that still isn't enough, you prison shank ***, man.
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-07-03 13:39:22
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DE will always be more consistent since it factors in accuracy to help assure maximum contact while Evis will depend solely on your gear and food/buffs for accuracy. However, the crit hit mod and ability to create Darkness SC is nothing to sneeze at, just be sure you got plenty of accuracy and enough extra TP to assure you get some crits in there and it can be pretty badass.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 14:05:19
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Even at 300% dancing edge tends to beat out evis for me... though by then sharkbite starts doing pretty good and manstab is a little less lol.
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By Odin.Blackthanos 2009-07-03 14:16:04
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DE will always be your bread and butter WS as thf but Evis can do damn good damage as well on occasion. It just depends on what you are doing and how you are equipped. Went farming the other day and did 1800 on a ep mob with it so it's nothing to sneeze at. Again it's all situational but to answer the question as simply as possible for the op YES it is worth getting. Especially for your thf since this WS doesn't really shine as much on any other job.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2009-07-03 14:34:59
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If you ever get an X's knife evis will be pretty mean, otherwise like all crit ws it's got a random factor.
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By Gilgamesh.Phalon 2009-07-03 15:16:22
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I blast stuff with evis all the time.

Dynamis mobs(1200), trolls(1600) and Gods(lol200-500).

Thats with 8/8 dagger merits, 5/5 ambush, 4/4 crit, Soil Gorget with Pizza att+acc.

If you want big consistent numbers it needs work.
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By Gilgamesh.Durden 2009-07-03 17:06:43
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Why would you use a sea gorget for a critical hit WS
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By Gilgamesh.Phalon 2009-07-03 17:53:00
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Durden said:
Why would you use a sea gorget for a critical hit WS


With multi hit WS acc>all. I do much more consistent damage.
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2009-07-03 19:05:03
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just to watch yourself stab the ***out of something makes it worth it alone
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-07-03 19:57:43
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Durden said:
Why would you use a sea gorget for a critical hit WS


The question you have to ask yourself is:

Why wouldn't you use a sea gorget for a WS?
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By Bismarck.Alana 2009-07-03 20:21:25
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u guys just forgot that evis open and close renkei drk
and for closing drk u get damage bonus

Evis top damage 1980 form DE 2190
DE still higher but w/e
unlock it its worth
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By Gilgamesh.Phalon 2009-07-03 20:55:04
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Alana said:
u guys just forgot that evis open and close renkei drk
and for closing drk u get damage bonus

Evis top damage 1980 form DE 2190
DE still higher but w/e
unlock it its worth


Ive broken 2k on evis, and ive also done 2400 with DE. Hell with enough TP and a breeze gorget ive done 1900 with Shark bite consistently (Steak). Depends on the mob as always.

Point is its nice to be versatile instead of spitting out the same WS always. In dyna my sam's and I make quick work of most mobs with Darkness.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 21:07:40
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Psh, my mate did 5K+ Dancing edge...

Well, it was an ep colibri... And he SATA me (I slept it and stood behind)... And he was thf/drk...

But still, it was funny to see the colibri's HP drop from full to about 10% and his HP pretty much matched it.
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By Bismarck.Brotz 2009-07-04 00:53:17
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Thanks for all the feed back guys I appreciate it alot i just picked up the dagger of trials will start doing some SC soon lol. Thanks again. good insite to Evis and DE. Hoping to make my thf pimping with all kinds of merits and gear!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-07-04 01:16:19
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Dancing Edge: weak mobs
Evisceration: medium mobs
Shark Bite: strong mobs
Mandalic Stab: very strong mobs

Where strength is defined as their defense/evasion compared to your attack/accuracy as well as factoring in their level.
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-07-04 01:18:38
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Wouldn't you wanna use DE on medium mobs to assure maximum contact on something that has balanced evasion/defense vs your atk/acc balance rather than using Evis which depends solely on your gear/buffs to land hits?

Just my 2 cents.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-07-04 01:27:25
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It's sort of a balance issue because critical hits add more to your damage as enemy defence rises, comparatively speaking. On weak mobs it won't add anywhere near as much (although X's Knife changes this slightly).
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-07-04 01:32:54
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Oh I see what you're saying. The crit hit factor would help bring out the most in damage on a medium strength mob compared to a weaker mob to begin with. Either way, DE & Evis will require a good balance of acc and atk to assure max contact and peak dmg output.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-07-04 02:03:38
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Yeah, definitely. Just with Evis I would focus on acc and DEX over acc and atk because you're getting "doubled returns" from the DEX.

EDIT: Tripled of course if it's a SAev or a SATAev!
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By Gilgamesh.Durden 2009-07-04 16:17:10
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Argettio said:
Durden said:
Why would you use a sea gorget for a critical hit WS


The question you have to ask yourself is:

Why wouldn't you use a sea gorget for a WS?


Read what I said, I didnt say, Why would you WS in gorget period lulz, i said. Why would you WS in a sea gorget for a WS that does critical hits.

WSin with Love Torque due to the 7 acc (for thf or drg with drakesbane) and 5 DEX would be prob your best option, another being an Ancient Torque, and please read how I said a WS that can critical. I'm tired of *** saying they WS in sea gorget only.
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By Gilgamesh.Tallulah 2009-07-04 16:43:00
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i WS in sea gorget only.
(on sam)
:)
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By Gilgamesh.Durden 2009-07-04 16:44:33
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Tallulah said:
i WS in sea gorget only.
(on sam)
:)


Which is a good thing :D

Gorgets are great for 1hit WSs
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-07-04 17:41:14
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Durden said:
Tallulah said:
i WS in sea gorget only.
(on sam)
:)


Which is a good thing :D

Gorgets are great for 1hit WSs


THF isn't really my thing, but 99% of the time gorgets >>> all. I will concede the on certain mobs, with certain buffs that love torque is better.

But that's a rare situation.
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