GEO Observations

GEO debuffs don't overwrite their corresponding buffs:



And exist alongside the corresponding debuffs:



Similarly, many GEO debuffs are unique status:



As a result, there are interesting things that can happen! For example, Geo/Indi-Slow and Slow (white magic) are applicable at the same time (they are different status effects).

Also, all buffs appear to stack with their similar counterparts:



Debuffs can't be erased:



Also note that the Geomancer in the picture is level 65 with 4 combined skill vs. level 99 players, so that doesn't seem to have any bearing on whether or not the GEO aura sticks.

Conclusions:

Geomancer's Def Down effect should be stackable as I've previously suggested.

Unexpectedly, GEO's slow effect stacks which could lead to interesting strategies with Slow II / Indi or Geo-Slow / Elegy.

Wow Sylow, that's some amazing news :D

Agreed, very nice stuff. The multitude of buffs/debuffs you can stack on with this job is awesome!

The debuffs are easily poised to be the most important aspect of the job, now it all hinges on their potency / multiplicativeness!

Well... 8hrs spamming spells, w/ B.E.W. Pitaru, enden having Handbell 259(started @ 204) and Geomancy 240... so not sure about saltena.. and I did notice @ early skills bellow 180 if you're 90+ you tend to get lots of .4/.5 skills even w/o food.

I noticed that when examining a Geometric Reservoir, when I waited a few seconds (like 3-5 seconds) on the blank arrow, a blue !! appeared over my character. I dunno if it does anything, but I think it may be connected with how someone else got a skill up after examining the Reservoir. I didn't get any skill ups, personally.

Edit:
I also didn't bother waiting longer to see if any other colored !! would appear. So I don't know if there could be more.

Does ones resist traits such as DRK's Resist Paralyze negate the effects of the Indi-Paralyze?

Nice so GEO has 100% unavoidable debuffs, cheap as hell MP cost AoE buffs, gg RDM.

Well atm Just see Geo as subjob for BLM.. coz Cardinal Chant...

How is it GEO's fault that you can't multiply? :(

Sub for what? Losing all defensive capabilities seems like a foolish tradeoff for a JT and some gimped buffs.

But you gain the ability to crash PS2s!

Yeah I got blue !!! with the skill up. Nothing else appeared after though,I was there for a few minutes.

Can we just talk about how awful the lag is when you have a lot of GEOs in one place? Is there an effects filter that gets rid of it? I tried most and they didn't stop it.

nice testing sylow. hey just wondering about the geo-poison. how much it was doing to you?

It wouldn't be representative of anything, level 4 skill etc.

I just remembered this from VanaFest:



Has this also been tested for nukes under Cardinal Chant?

Yes but testing has proven it innacurate. Need to rotate everything one slot clockwise, then it should be correct.

Also I think MAB is West and MAcc is East. But can't confirm

so pretty much this, then.

that's coutnerclockwise, not clockwise

Magic crit chance is south for sure according to this : http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/115380-Geomancer-Findings-and-Mechanics-*Needs-More-Handbells!*/page22

Also 2x Indi-Refresh did not stack. Not sure if that was confirmed or not.

Indi and the corresponding geo spell dont seem to stack with debuffs... tested with poison spells in brenner (both gave 12/tick against a whm individually.. and when both were up at the same time)

Well if I don't know maths... At lest don't say brd/geo for refresh when most brds that actually play thf job have relic and empy...


Because you need stoneskin, cures to proc vw? Or can't macro fanatics

Interesting!

Will need to test recasts with slow / indi-slow in Brenner! I dont' have Geomancy skill to make a difference, although SE did say that some effects wouldn't stack.

Someone with the high-level spells (and some skill lol) should go to Brenner and test the recast of Reraise III with Slow vs. Slow + Indi-Slow and check your defense with some Defense Down (e.g Frightful Roar) and Defense Down + Indi-Frailty.

The Indi- and Geo- buffs don't stack either, I just assumed the debuffs had the same behavior. Good to have confirmation though.

A good BLM is no where near the mob to need fanatics unless he's trying for the staff 5 the WAR is ignoring. Everything else... yes, you should have stoneskin. My BLM also packs 50% cure potency as a "just in case" which has saved my rear on more than one occasion. BLM can, and should always, be more than "did you see the numbers on my nuke!?"

WHOOPS!



there we go.

Geo and indi not stacking with each other was explicitly stated in the official update notes. This shouldn't be a suprise to anyone.

its ok you can always get your mom to buy this


:-D

I was sleepy, leave me alone Q_Q