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Endeavoring to Awaken --A Guide to Rune Fencer
Server: Odin
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-05 01:23:30
Given Rune Fencer's insane magic defense and resi boosts, is it now possible to ever resist bio or dia on run?
Bismarck.Bloodrose
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-05 01:45:22
Given Rune Fencer's insane magic defense and resi boosts, is it now possible to ever resist bio or dia on run? I'll probably test that after this Ig-Alima group i'm in
Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-04-05 01:54:29
Wished Rune Fencer could use Ridill.
Bismarck.Bloodrose
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-05 03:56:52
I wished RUN could use a wider variety of swords, seeing as it's an A rank skill they have.
Lakshmi.Saevel
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-04-05 04:41:47
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I wished RUN could use a wider variety of swords, seeing as it's an A rank skill they have.
I was disappointed in their sword selection. Thinking Bihkah Sword (+1) x2 might be one of the better setups. Once prices go down on the new ore they should become fairly common. Assuming SE doesn't release something new. Still can do a decent RUN/NIN Req build for when you need to specialize in bypassing monsters with -PDT.
Valefor.Sehachan
Server: Valefor
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Posts: 24,219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-05 04:58:03
Something like this?
ItemSet 295428
ignoring Choca mask and Khepri gear.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-04-05 06:17:18
Never gotten any sword ws to touch ruinator tho...
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-05 06:20:12
Requiescat is only useful for things that resist physical damage cause it can bypass the resistance.
Cerberus.Keyoku
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-04-05 06:32:10
Jsut for clarification about added effects on weapons, since it was discussed on the previous page. They have nothing to do with which effect comes from a main or sub job. It's just which effect overwrites the other. A dnc/rdm with Enfire will get Enfire and not Sambas if both are up. And Twilight Scythe's Death couldn't proc with Sambas up. So there is a hierarchy that has nothing to do with main vs sub jobs.
Edit: Edited for clarification.
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-05 07:49:21
its a bit of a shame runes overwrite sambas, could get the resistance, the samba buff, and an easy way out of dealing magic dmg on mobs that absorb it
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 08:37:58
Etoile greatsword? Star Greatsword?
By Tsol 2013-04-05 08:43:52
I had totally forgotten about the order of effects for weapon enhancements when I mentioned the Def Down GS. Good call guys. Looks like I'll need to invest in another sword instead.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 08:46:47
So a PDT- GS will be nullified if I have runes up? I know that I still get trial credit for a GS with runes up.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-04-05 08:48:30
PDT- isnt an additional effect on the GS unless you are talking about def down then yes its nullified.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 08:54:25
PDT- isnt an additional effect on the GS unless you are talking about def down then yes its nullified.
I'm talking about a Tenebreuse with VIT/PDT-. I figured Def Down was just a bad term for PDT- everyone was using.
Here's a question, tho; would runes cancel a Borealis WS DMG effect? It's neither Added effect nor an Augmentation.
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »Etoile greatsword? Star Greatsword? My bad, I meant Etourdissante
Oh, I see.
Valefor.Sehachan
Server: Valefor
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-05 08:57:12
Runes don't proc on ws, so Bro should work.
As for the trial gs, there's a path that buffs the player and one that debuffs the mob(in this case vit/pdt and weakens defense).
Server: Shiva
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-04-05 08:57:29
Borealis is safe because it's for ws and isn't an added effect.
Edit: Seha, why you beat me like this? :<
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 09:01:09
Runes don't proc on ws, so Bro should work.
As for the trial gs, there's a path that buffs the player and one that debuffs the mob(in this case vit/pdt and weakens defense).
That's great! Wonderful news! ....Now if only I had a Borealis. ; ;
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-05 09:03:30
It's too bad VW is in coma these days. I'd love to try some niggalima myself, wouldn't mind spending all my remaining stones on him.
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Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-05 09:06:41
runes only effect additional effects, where it actually says additional effect, it wouldnt mess with oat, ws or weapon stats
Phoenix.Kojo
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Server: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 09:20:51
It's too bad VW is in coma these days. I'd love to try some niggalima myself, wouldn't mind spending all my remaining stones on him.
Still see shouts for him and others on Phoenix, shoulda hung out, man.~
By darthmaull 2013-04-05 09:41:36
So I guess grips would fall under this as well?
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 09:49:21
The one with Added effect Stun or HP Drain? Yes.
Also, Seha, as a follow-up to my previous statement; "of course people still do VW, what else would they do? Reives?"
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-05 09:56:23
Apparently they do absolutely nothing all day on Valefor.
Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-04-05 09:59:12
The only shouts I see every day now is Ig-Alima from various people. I also see Akvan but that's lead by Kurognashi.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-05 10:04:44
Apparently they do absolutely nothing all day on Valefor.
I need motivation... But I'm motivated by odd things. Gear? Meh. Spells? Maybe... Now, if they said that at the end of all the SoA missions you get to see Arciela nude, I'd burn through them in a day or two. >.> Which is kinda sad, but hey.
Lakshmi.Saevel
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-04-05 10:06:06
Something like this?
ItemSet 295428
ignoring Choca mask and Khepri gear.
Basically yeah though I'm not sure SE would beat out another Bhink over all. Still it's a special purpose config just for bypassing PDT since the runes effect and lunge are magic damage anyway.
By darthmaull 2013-04-05 10:24:56
I know that haste gear would be good for the timers on spells but I was wondering, would RUN get any benefit from fast casting gear? I have some from when I played SCH but Im thinking of selling it.
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