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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 11:30:58
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And we all know Debbie is totally Etna from Disgaea lol. But yeah it's inspired by those games/stories not necessarily "rip offs". I hate that term because everything "rips off" of something already done. It's so near impossible to come up with original content that can't be traced back (even if the creator of said new material has never seen it before) to some other form of art/media.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-04-23 11:33:44
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Honestly, Abel is a man's name. Also he looks like a Drg kind of... Kinda of like Kain from FF4. Kain and Abel... ya dig?
But Boobs!
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-23 11:37:16
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Yeah I usually try to avoid saying rip-off but I mean... Adalina... come on...

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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-23 13:01:24
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Bingo board done on my alt!

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Another *** Anton -_-
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 13:27:37
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At least Anton is worth 4-5 TE maxed and isn't a complete ***4* like Robert.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 13:40:55
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Holy ***, the 6* from the last event Adamas is worth 2500 TE FRESH... That can't be right.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-23 14:23:47
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Holy ***, the 6* from the last event Adamas is worth 2500 TE FRESH... That can't be right.

Its only worth what any one person is willing to pay for it.

I wouldn't pay more then 100 TE for any card in the game, personally. This game is owned and controlled by Mobacoin buyers.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-23 14:26:49
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Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Abel and Adalina both obviously from the FF universe.


My response to this is below.

Bismarck.Faelar said: »

You are going to see some similarities, I assure you. It's okay. We all see them. :D
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 16:09:56
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Holy ***, the 6* from the last event Adamas is worth 2500 TE FRESH... That can't be right.

Its only worth what any one person is willing to pay for it.

I wouldn't pay more then 100 TE for any card in the game, personally. This game is owned and controlled by Mobacoin buyers.

well if you're not willing to pay more than 100 TE, good luck getting a lot of the stronger cards. Just saying.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-23 16:11:45
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Has there even been a *** fever today at all? I wasn't on for about an hour for an appointment this morning at 8-9 and about an hour for a nap. Other than that, I've been on the whole damn day and haven't once seen a fever.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-23 16:13:08
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Abel and Adalina both obviously from the FF universe.


My response to this is below.

Bismarck.Faelar said: »

You are going to see some similarities, I assure you. It's okay. We all see them. :D

Mmmmmfff fffrrrrmmmm ggggguuuurrgle MfffMmmmmm.

*takes foot out of mouth*

I see...
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 16:16:17
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So I've done some testing with attack bonus 4 and 5. Here are my results:
I tested 3 units specifically because I saw that attack bonus was proportionate to the base dmg of the units you're boosting. So I took a lv 125 Abel, a lv 128 Abel and a 123 Vlad

Without boosts:
land air sea
125 Abel 106k 81.7k 72.3k
128 Abel 108k 83k 74k
Vlad 162k 40.9k 59.1k

With attack bonus 4
125 Abel 143.2k 110.3k 97.7k
128 Abel 146.6k 112.9k 100k
Vlad 219k 55k 79.9k

with attack bonus 5 (Alex as leader)
125 Abel 148.5k 114.4k 101.3k
128 Abel 152.1k 117.1k 103.7k
Vlad 227k 57.3k 82.8k

Now take this as you will, to see if battle seasoned Alex (or Benedetta) are worth the leader slot. They seem to add a few k per dmg type to each of the units it boosts. It seem worth it to me, while I only have a 5* as my highest so far. I think knockback/slow/poison 7 would be great, but for the moment I think Alex is my best choice. That extra tier of attack boosts seem to add a few thousand dmg overall and that's way more than she accounts for normally with her own damage.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-23 16:22:54
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Best choice for events I can see, but atm with no pressure to have ridiculous dmg, say for tower climbing bosses (go bears!) I'd leave my 5* up. If you still need ally points, ur prolly gonna have less ppl using you with just the 4* that helps the boys.

What I'm saying is, give me back the slow god damn it.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-04-23 16:55:48
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Holy ***, the 6* from the last event Adamas is worth 2500 TE FRESH... That can't be right.

Its only worth what any one person is willing to pay for it.

I wouldn't pay more then 100 TE for any card in the game, personally. This game is owned and controlled by Mobacoin buyers.

well if you're not willing to pay more than 100 TE, good luck getting a lot of the stronger cards. Just saying.

I have all the cards I want at the moment :)
Just need to level them.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-04-23 19:26:21
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So if i registered a device, and no longer have access to said device, I can no longer play?
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-04-23 19:32:10
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
So if i registered a device, and no longer have access to said device, I can no longer play?
you just have to register another device. It just won't let you register two devices at the same time.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-04-23 20:02:33
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
So if i registered a device, and no longer have access to said device, I can no longer play?

You can also log in to your account and play on a non registered device (sometimes at home I play on my tablet) but you wont be able to use your inbox until you re-register. Thats all ive noticed at least.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 20:13:12
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526 drops... I wonder how many it would take to seal me in to a good daily prize slot. I get so tempted to dump them >_<. I really want a rank 1 daily prize. A free 6* would be amazing, and Lys is a good unit.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 22:51:00
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Just did the math, and there is NO way in hell I'll rank even close to high, even if I drop 900 sun drops during fever in a single day, given the trend of rank 1 winners dropping sooooo much money. At least I'll get good personal rewards and I'm close to a complete bingo board on my main and alt lol.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-23 22:56:57
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Yeah I realized pretty fast that it just won't matter how many I put in so I just save up at least 100 for fever time. If I have less than that, I don't put them in. At least I'm jacking personal and team points up that way for my own prizes.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 22:59:03
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Yeah, I'm thinking the same. I did the math and with 700 drops during fever, it's about 11,500 PR. Current leader atm is 86k... so that's what 7x that? so 4900 drops? Each MEGA box has what 110? 3000 coins per box = 30 bucks per box, so that's... 48 boxes x 30 bucks = 1440 dollars.... Am I seriously mathing that correctly?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-23 23:02:20
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And some of the daily winners (it's documented on the unofficial wiki) won with 70k, 80k+ 100k+ and 115k+ PR....
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-24 00:26:33
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I have a few theories about the people scoring huge amounts in events as I just can't see them having that much income, disposable or otherwise, to use on this game.

Theory 1 - People are hacking the crap out of this game. I thought about it for a while and while I am not sure how the game itself keeps track of time, but I am reminded of the D3 Auction House duping exploit where the AH ran off local times and you could unlist items people already bought. If someone could circumvent the timing counters they could potentially train non-stop, and using emulators it would be easy enough to make scripts to just do that and train all day.

Theory 2 - The Triads have employed a small army of players who constantly level 4* cards to farm TE. Meanwhile they sell cards illegally on the black market for real money which they in turn invest back into the game to buy more 4-6* cards rinse repeat.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-24 00:48:59
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#1 sounds pretty crack-pot to me. #2 sounds legit.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-24 00:57:24
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Might sound pretty crackpot but I decided to test it out for myself...

Turns out the game relies on the client system time to determine timers. You can skip your phone system ahead a few minutes and it will count towards quest and battle cooldowns as well as refilling your training points. If you set it back to normal time the cooldowns that reach zero will stay at zero but training points will go back to where they would have been had you not changed the time.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-24 01:00:27
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I was being sarcastic lol. I know that technique works, as it does with every other game I've played and tried it out on. The thing is by doing so, you're violating a condition by exploiting what should be an obvious glitch, and they'll give you das boot if they catch you doing so.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-04-24 01:02:30
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Just realized it's 2am so I'm going to bed. Don't get banned, I need your tiny dancer.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-04-24 01:08:43
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And here I thought I was being clever :(



Don't worry, I only did it the once to see if it would work. I don't want to get banned, at least not yet.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-04-24 04:41:10
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Ya I've actually read emulating is illegal too. I thought about just running a main account on the emu to avoid having to hold my phone all the time but I read that people were getting banned for using emulators sooooo nope!
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-04-24 06:31:02
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Ragnarok.Ravant said: »
Ya I've actually read emulating is illegal too. I thought about just running a main account on the emu to avoid having to hold my phone all the time but I read that people were getting banned for using emulators sooooo nope!
I've been using emulator for my main account only since I set it up. A month ago? Whenever the posts about it were.

I can't use my phone at work anymore, and it will die if I have the game running. So I leave it up on emulator so peoples can use my main all day long.
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