Asura.Failaras said: »
Use Izh/Atoyac because I don't want to waste inventory space carrying around a Sandung for a near minimal if any bonus.
This is what was said, oh, 15 pages ago. Atoyac was NEVER even partially part of this conversation.
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This is what was said, oh, 15 pages ago. Atoyac was NEVER even partially part of this conversation. Atoyac OaT is a 40% proc rate... This is why I argued about the DPS difference because people have infact stated Sandung as an off-hand. Sure Sandung as a main hand is less of a problem but why would you replace Ihz with Sandung?
charlo999 said: » He posted morts info about the small increase and ihana did the maths. About 30 coins. Yeah it's minimal and prob not worth the effort. But I had sand before I got atoyac oat. So I'll take em. Different people will get different results more so cause of play style. It's not that big a deal. Misinformation regarding factual maths is though. About 30 coins in comparison of th3 to th6 on the same number of mobs... You going on about how your so much better with math lol. This is why I mocked them about grade school. In reality this number is smaller because your talking about 2 ppl base TH8 and only one is getting a slight boost to their occasional TH proc rate over TH8. Edit: in the arguement between keeping TH gear on and not. Quote: Atoyac OaT is a 40% proc rate... This is why we argued about the DPS difference because people have infact stated Sandung as an off-hand. Sure Sandung as a main hand is less of a problem but why would you replace Ihz with Sandung? Wasn't my maths as I said. It may be smaller but it's still a small increase for no effort on my part.
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Send me a pm about the dynamis exploits you use. Lately im feeling like going to OF to make a ruckus. Asura.Failaras said: » Quote: Atoyac OaT is a 40% proc rate... This is why we argued about the DPS difference because people have infact stated Sandung as an off-hand. Sure Sandung as a main hand is less of a problem but why would you replace Ihz with Sandung? I with you RME I prob wouldn't replace. But I have neither. The whole stupid discussion was replacing izi. charlo999 said: » Wasn't my maths as I said. It may be smaller but it's still a small increase for no effort on my part. Yeah but apparently you couldn't even come up with your own... Stop barking already. Pantafernando said: » Hey valli Send me a pm about the dynamis exploits you use. Lately im feeling like going to OF to make a ruckus. It wouldn't do anything, if they bant all the people cheating they may as well shut down the game. You can see the hax in any of the pics I posted. I'm a GM, afterall. 
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » Pantafernando said: » Hey valli Send me a pm about the dynamis exploits you use. Lately im feeling like going to OF to make a ruckus. It wouldn't do anything, if they bant all the people cheating they may as well shut down the game. You can see the hax in any of the pics I posted. I'm a GM, afterall. What that do? I always tought it was just to film things? Maybe too naive? I mean, 100% legit, if you thought the arguement was about mainhanding a sandung... I can't even take you seriously as a human anymore.
What kind of artard even considers mainhanding a sandung. I'm trying to be as nice as possible, but you make it VERY hard. charlo999 said: » charlo999 said: » Um because you would never drop the oat atoyac that's why. So you would main hand a 97D weapon and sub sandung? Also as if I need to repeat this but it seems I do. This is for dynamis. Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » Cerberus.Tidis said: » who the hell main hands a Sandung? The discussion at hand was offhanding a sandung..... Do you need me to quote previous posts? Jus Stahp!
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Bismarck.Ihina said: » Use Sandung for dyna/salvage Actually, I'd say we take a second look at the Sandung since the first hit of Rudra does so much more than it did before, especially if the new trend is to hold til 1750TP. charlo999 said: » I main hand sandung with oat atoyac for all Gil farming content. Can you read? Unless you thought we were subbing atoyac for sandung? But your not that stupid are you? Ihina is alot of things, a lot of things if I say right here, probably get banned for saying.
But I'm pretty sure he's smart enough not to main hand the sandung. All THF discussion revolves around the off-hand. ALL Mainhand is ALWAYS RME. No exceptions. The comment: NEVER USE A SANDUNG is Directed at the off-hand because AGAIN: All THF discussion revolves around the off-hand. ALL Mainhand is ALWAYS RME. No exceptions. **Except now that rudra is so broken, izhiikoh has been promoted to mainhand.** Edit:clarity
charlo999 said: » Can you read? Unless you thought we were subbing atoyac for sandung? But your not that stupid are you? Asura.Failaras said: » Use Izh/Atoyac because I don't want to waste inventory space carrying around a Sandung for a near minimal if any bonus. ^^^ When I came into the conversation this was said. Cerberus.Tidis said: » So Valli is completely against Sandung right? Meh It's my off-hand weapon most of the time. I'll probably change up when I get a Chaac Belt but until then I need it to cap TH! And you never said you did otherwise but I'll give that one to you despite your weasel track record. I must admit I came into this conversation championing the Sandung off-hand, I now see the error of my ways, I can also see the point of view of a Sandung mainhand definitely if you must insist on having TH being better than having it in the off hand.
That said I'm still using Sandung against Behemoth and you can't stop me. Cerberus.Tidis said: » I must admit I came into this conversation championing the Sandung off-hand, I now see the error of my ways, I can also see the point of view of a Sandung mainhand definitely if you must insist on having TH being better than having it in the off hand. That said I'm still using Sandung against Behemoth and you can't stop me. But how about after you get a chaac belt? Nyruul said: » Cerberus.Tidis said: » I must admit I came into this conversation championing the Sandung off-hand, I now see the error of my ways, I can also see the point of view of a Sandung mainhand definitely if you must insist on having TH being better than having it in the off hand. That said I'm still using Sandung against Behemoth and you can't stop me. But how about after you get a chaac belt?
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Cerberus.Tidis said: » Nyruul said: » Cerberus.Tidis said: » I must admit I came into this conversation championing the Sandung off-hand, I now see the error of my ways, I can also see the point of view of a Sandung mainhand definitely if you must insist on having TH being better than having it in the off hand. That said I'm still using Sandung against Behemoth and you can't stop me. But how about after you get a chaac belt? EXACTLYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't blame you btw. You didn't know about Atoyac at the time. I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P
Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. Odin.Sheelay said: » I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. I'm going to guess you play on x-box? Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. I'm going to guess you play on x-box? Precisely. And SE forgot about Italian players. Odin.Sheelay said: » Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. I'm going to guess you play on x-box? Precisely. And SE forgot about Italian players. Well don't you just need an EU copy of the game? Can't you order a used copy of EU SoA for x-box and get an EU digital download PC key? YouTube Video Placeholder Nyruul said: » Cerberus.Tidis said: » I must admit I came into this conversation championing the Sandung off-hand, I now see the error of my ways, I can also see the point of view of a Sandung mainhand definitely if you must insist on having TH being better than having it in the off hand. That said I'm still using Sandung against Behemoth and you can't stop me. But how about after you get a chaac belt?
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Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. I'm going to guess you play on x-box? Precisely. And SE forgot about Italian players. Well don't you just need an EU copy of the game? Can't you order a used copy of EU SoA for x-box and get an EU digital download PC key? Last time I checked on Amazon UK there was 1 copy for around 100 euros, lol! So yeah, for the content I play atm (Dyna/Ein/Salvage/Etc.) I am in no real rush tbh. I'll look again on Amazon Germany when I can get more time to play next year. Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » Mainhand is ALWAYS RME. No exceptions. This is fantastic advise in a help thread designed to help fellow thfs get a better understanding of thf. /sarcasm off Or was the title of the thread, elitists only. But wait he contradicts himself Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » THIS was NOT like this prior to Rudra's update. This actually BEGS for an update to Mandau's pitiful 91 Base damage. You can see Mandau has a clear lead fr white damage, but the Rudra's increase is too drastic.  I mainhand mercurial kris and offhand sandung for mad ws damages
i hit hard rudras. thf stronk. Odin.Sheelay said: » Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » Nyruul said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » I mainhand a Sandung and offhand an Eminent Dagger and it feels great! >:P Stuff will matter less once I finish Vajra though, so I can finally move Sandung to offhand and feel even better! Provided I don't find a copy of SoA first, that is. I'm going to guess you play on x-box? Precisely. And SE forgot about Italian players. Well don't you just need an EU copy of the game? Can't you order a used copy of EU SoA for x-box and get an EU digital download PC key? Last time I checked on Amazon UK there was 1 copy for around 100 euros, lol! So yeah, for the content I play atm (Dyna/Ein/Salvage/Etc.) I am in no real rush tbh. I'll look again on Amazon Germany when I can get more time to play next year. Damn.. But yeah when you do, see if its cheaper doing it the way I said. Used xbox copy+PC key |
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