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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-07-09 15:16:40
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Asura.Melliny said: »
the rest of the stats will increase white damage by more than enough to compensate.

How much white damage do you think THF does? I would hazard to guess that it's < 10% of overall damage. Increasing WS frequency will impact 90% of your damage, increasing while damage will increase probably 9% of your damage.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-07-09 15:43:11
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Twashtar with AM3 & Samnuha/Adhemar:
311m white damage (21.2%)
1,153m WSD (78.8%)

Twashtar with AM3 & Gleti:
346m white damage (22.7%)
1,179m WSD (77.3%)

Aeneas with Samnuha/Adhemar:
178m white damage (15.1%)
1,001 WSD (84.9%)

Aeneas with Gleti:
200m white damage (16.3%)
1,027 WSD (83.7%)

Turns out it's closer than I thought, but still...depending on the scenario it's not a given that white damage is the answer. Also have to consider on non-dummy targets if they're dying in X WS (1, 2, 3) then the fact that you did a little more white damage between those WS is most likely totally irrelevant. If you kill an Apex mob with a 3-step SC with either TP set, the one that increases the rate at which you WS will kill faster. The random white damage you did between those WS will not help (unless you're excited about overkills).

For the record, I don't wear Samnuha in any sets and I only wear Adhemar wrists in my glass cannon sets. I'm not advocating for this gear, just trying to engage in a discussion about white/WSD.
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By K123 2024-07-09 15:49:49
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Unsurprised Gleti's is better. What does Meghanda or AF+3 show?
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By jubes 2024-07-09 16:12:27
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what offhand did you use there maletaru?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-07-09 18:57:52
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These were all hyper-buffed (BRD COR GEO) against Apex mobs, offhand was TP bonus for all 3.

I think saying "Gleti wins" is kinda missing the forest for the trees too. It only "wins" in total damage if you have a target with 1.5 billion health. It really depends on the situation and I think nuance is more complicated than people are willing to give credit for.

Whatever, wear whatever you wanna wear; it's close enough and this game isn't fine-tuned that you need to hyper-optimize your DPS by 1% to make sure you clear a fight, if we're being honest here.
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By K123 2024-07-10 05:40:19
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I wear AF+3 because my Gleti is only R25.
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