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 Quetzalcoatl.Hidegger
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hidegger 2013-05-07 15:57:48
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Asura.Tiran said: »
Been awhile since I've had to do these equations, but I'll try to explain it as best i can.

6x + 8y = 12
3x - 2y = -6

step 1: Identify the variable you wish to start with or eliminate first. I like to start with the first one in the equation, in this case 6x.

Step 2: In order to eliminate this variable (6x) you must use its opposite (-6x). To get this, you look at the second equation and identify what will make 3x change to -6x. In this case multiply by -2. You must apply the -2 to the whole equation. -2(3x- 2y = -6). Which results in -6x + 4y = 12

6x + 8y = 12
-6x + 4y = 12

Step 3: Eliminate the X variable by adding the equations together.

12y = 24 is the resulting equation.

Step 4: solve for Y

Y=2

Step 5: plug Y=2 back into the original equation. 6x + 8(2) = 12
Step 6: solve for X.

6x + 16 = 12 -> 6x = -4 -> x= -2/3


Hope this helps

this, only you don't need to make the 2nd equation's variable the opposite (ei. 6x and -6x) they can be the same and subtract one equation from the other instead of adding. so

6x + 8y = 12
3x - 2y = -6

becomes

6x + 8y = 12
6x - 4y = -12

add subtract the 2nd equation from the first to get

12y = 24

and divide to get just y
y = 2

then to follow through with elimination and not substitution,

6x + 8y = 12
4(3x - 2y) = (-6)4

becomes

6x + 8y = 12
12x - 8y = -24

add them to eliminate y terms

18x = -12

and divide to get just x

x = -12/18 or x = -2/3
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By Garuda.Chanti 2013-05-07 16:27:38
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said: »
Ok back again for help.

Solve the system of equations using elimination.

6X + 8y = 12
3x - 2y = -6

OK, now we are getting into actual math!

Problem is I can do that in my head and have long forgotten WTF elimination is in this context....

/blush

Sorry, been over 50 years since entry level algebra for me. Maybe I should stay away from this thread till you get to calculus. That's only been 30something years.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-05-07 16:32:46
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said: »
Ok back again for help.


Solve the system of equations using elimination.

6X + 8y = 12
3x - 2y = -6

Of course I have the answer (-2/3,2), just need to know how to get it. And if there is a short way to do this.

I tried using sites but...they are a bit confusing...

Here's a magic trick using Linear Algebra and matrices:

Make a 2x2 matrix A, make it :
[ 6 8
3 -2 ].

Make a 2x1 matrix B, make it:
[ 12
-6].

Your answer is the matrix resulting from (A inverse) * (B). Tah-dah!
I know this won't help if you have to use Gaussian Elimination, but it's a really neat way to check your answers, or if you just want to save yourself some work. (Of course, you need N unknowns and N equations for this to work!)
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-07 16:39:10
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It's more fun to solve equations like this in Matrix form with Gauss-Jordan elimination - then it's like a puzzle!
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-05-07 16:54:06
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's more fun to solve equations like this in Matrix form with Gauss-Jordan elimination - then it's like a puzzle!

I'm just happy to use matrices for something besides derivative matrices xD
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2013-05-09 18:26:39
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Wooo thank you all for the help. Tomorrow I take my last unit test and it will be fall for the next math class. :)
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-05-13 05:25:41
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I know you said you don't want websites, but this won't solve your problems for you. MIT has uploaded some of their old courses complete with lecture notes and problems. I'm not sure how complete the math courses are but the computer programming one's were pretty good.

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/index.htm#mathematics

Hope you did well on your exam!
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