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 Cerberus.Shadowmeld
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2024-12-19 00:07:52
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Decimation is pretty bad for Kalunga in particular anyway because it makes light off of savage, so you could accidentally give 100k heals.
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By Asura.Melliny 2024-12-19 08:11:25
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The standard for Kalunga nowadays is just R30 Ikenga's axe anyway. If memory serves mistral axe --> savage blade --> Mistral axe --> savage blade skillchains indefinitely so it makes proccing blue easy, and calamity is pretty darn close to savage blade in terms of power. That's what i used when I cleared kalunga on V25. I've killed him a couple times now doing that. Ikenga's is a very strong axe with its tp bonus. You really can't go wrong with that strategy.
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By Taint 2024-12-19 08:25:15
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Decimation is pretty bad for Kalunga in particular anyway because it makes light off of savage, so you could accidentally give 100k heals.


800k heals lol. We did a light by mistake and it healed him close to 10%.

Ikenga axe is easier to get than Farsha but the TP bonus is near void for Kalunga. Between fencer, gear and savagery you can spam at 2580 to 3000 depending on MAs. Over TPing with AM3 is barely a penalty as well during the rare time savagery is down during that fight.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-12-19 09:38:02
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Asura.Melliny said: »
If memory serves mistral axe --> savage blade --> Mistral axe --> savage blade

Mistral -> Savage or Savage -> Mistral is Light, so not going to make infinite SC that way.

There may be better options, IDK, but we did Raging Axe -> Savage Blade, which makes infinite SC.

If, for some reason, you choose to use Gaxe, Steel Cyclone -> Savage Blade does the same thing.
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By Asura.Melliny 2024-12-19 13:08:32
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There may be better options, IDK, but we did Raging Axe -> Savage Blade, which makes infinite SC.

Ahhhh yes, that was the one. I haven't had to do kalunga for a while so the sequence skipped my mind. Now that you posted that though I'm certain that's what we did. It chains indefinitely, much like aeolian to aeolian goes on indefinitely. I was primarily using calamity but threw in a mistral axe here and there to help break up the weaponskill wall, and raging to savage for the blue proc. I'm pretty sure even with fencer's tp bonus the ikenga's axe was worth using. Calamity's anchor tiers are 2.5, 6.5, and 10.375, so it scales extremely hard just like savage blade. Getting a near 3k effective TP return at 1k allows you to just spam it as soon as you have tp and it definitely helped get the job done.
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By Asura.Shang 2024-12-19 14:11:44
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We always used bora since it connects with savage expiacion as well as it self. No matter who is terror the sc process can be started by war Blu cor even brd and continued as needed. Think plenty of options out there just dnt heal.
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By Asura.Ccl 2025-01-10 14:05:06
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How much Double Attack is needed for 100% DA with Conqueror AM3 up ?

How does it work ?

A.: 20% TA first / 40% DA 2nd so over 100 hit 20% TA => 80 hit left, 40% AM3 + 40 DA from trait/gear ?

B: 20% TA 80 hit left, 40% of 80 = 32 so 48% DA needed ?

Not sure which one it is
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By Nariont 2025-01-10 14:13:22
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Mythic AM3 occurs 2nd to last, if you have 100% DA you will never see AM3 occur
Follow up(though it occurs at the end of a that hands round iirc) >QA > TA > DA > OaT > Zanhasso
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-01-10 15:51:49
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Mythic AM3 is pretty useless for WAR, just ignore it. Conq's bonus to Berserk is really nice though.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-10 16:37:34
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Asura.Ccl said: »
How much Double Attack is needed for 100% DA with Conqueror AM3 up ?

How does it work ?

A.: 20% TA first / 40% DA 2nd so over 100 hit 20% TA => 80 hit left, 40% AM3 + 40 DA from trait/gear ?

B: 20% TA 80 hit left, 40% of 80 = 32 so 48% DA needed ?

Not sure which one it is

As the other posters have said, it doesn't add like this.

Unfortunately the answer is: if you have mythic AM3 up there's no way to get 100% DA other than having 100% DA without the mythic. Here are some examples:

80% DA on gear/traits:
80% chance to DA
4% chance to mythic TA
8% chance to mythic DA
8% chance to single swing

90% DA on gear/traits:
90% chance to DA
2% chance to mythic TA
4% chance to mythic DA
4% chance to single swing

50% DA on gear/traits:
50% chance to DA
10% chance to mythic TA
20% chance to mythic DA
20% chance to single swing

All this of course assumes that you have no other multi-attack, like QA from Niqmaddu Ring or whatever else, but you get the idea. You either have 100% DA from gear and traits, or you have a < 100% chance to double attack. It might be worth it to give up 4% chance of multi-hit, but as you can see, the mythic gives next-to-no benefit in terms of TP speed, and considering the DA damage that WAR can get, probably gives a net-negative to overall damage.

I also agree with the conclusions above: it's an excellent swap for berserk.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-01-10 17:38:52
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It might be worth it to give up 4% chance of multi-hit, but as you can see, the mythic gives next-to-no benefit in terms of TP speed, and considering the DA damage that WAR can get, probably gives a net-negative to overall damage.

I'd be curious about whether Mythic AM3 applying to WS is enough to override that possible (probable?) net negative from loss of DA white damage. Not saying that would make Conqueror a better choice than other weapons, but it's another component of the overall analysis, and at least relevant to the question of Conq with AM3 versus Conq without AM3.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-10 19:25:53
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It might be worth it to give up 4% chance of multi-hit, but as you can see, the mythic gives next-to-no benefit in terms of TP speed, and considering the DA damage that WAR can get, probably gives a net-negative to overall damage.

I'd be curious about whether Mythic AM3 applying to WS is enough to override that possible (probable?) net negative from loss of DA white damage. Not saying that would make Conqueror a better choice than other weapons, but it's another component of the overall analysis, and at least relevant to the question of Conq with AM3 versus Conq without AM3.

Ah this is a good point, i hadn't thought about this element. It would suffer similar losses to the tp issue though, since the massive base DA that a WAR gets would proc first. Still a nice bonus though. Depends if you're using a GA WS that gets much benefit from mutli-attacks.

Good catch though
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