(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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By Atrox78 2024-10-22 12:37:37
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Sorry, its a PITA to quote on mobile, but i realize theres a lot of context missing in my post. I was responding to “its a dps loss to use entropy when you can spam cross”. I was hoping the mention of “dps loss” would help show what i was trying to respond to.

Wouldn't know. I don't usually use schere unless I'm using Foenaria. Unless I'm foing kalunga or something where I don't want to pull hate.
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By Sylvebits 2024-11-12 18:38:22
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Was there an updated guide for this made?
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2024-11-12 20:18:30
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High End Sets Only

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By Sylvebits 2024-11-14 01:07:51
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Ahhh k then heh.

Then a few quick questions:

-Is it worth getting a Ragnarok if you have a Calad?
- Currently fulltiming Caladbolg. But having GA, GS, sword, and Scythe access... is it better to stick to one weapon during a fight or should you rotate? Like, switching to Apoc to for Catastrophe for HP or entropy MP, or GA for armour/full break? Or to skill chain with another weapon.
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By Nariont 2024-11-14 01:28:20
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Sylvebits said: »
Is it worth getting a Ragnarok

Largely no, it can do okay at 1k TP but it quickly falls off after that, its best use is to 3~ step light but its better just to spam torc tbh with another easier to acquire GS.

Sylvebits said: »
is it better to stick to one weapon during a fight or should you rotate?

Situational really but outside of primes, raw DPS favors calad torc spam, not to say scythe can't compete with that and scythe does offer actual SC flexibility whereas gs is very narrow in its options.

Great axe is good to have for its breaks and if you lack a rema the ambu GA is a very solid option and also helps get you into the rhythm of keeping Drain 3s HP boost going where you are able to
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By Atrox78 2024-11-14 09:02:09
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Nariont said: »
Sylvebits said: »
Is it worth getting a Ragnarok

Largely no, it can do okay at 1k TP but it quickly falls off after that, its best use is to 3~ step light but its better just to spam torc tbh with another easier to acquire GS.

Sylvebits said: »
is it better to stick to one weapon during a fight or should you rotate?

Situational really but outside of primes, raw DPS favors calad torc spam, not to say scythe can't compete with that and scythe does offer actual SC flexibility whereas gs is very narrow in its options.

Great axe is good to have for its breaks and if you lack a rema the ambu GA is a very solid option and also helps get you into the rhythm of keeping Drain 3s HP boost going where you are able to

To add regarding GA. Fell Cleave Drk is a force of nature. Definitely the best AOE option Dtk has IMO. You'd never want to use it for as an everyday weapon but having a macro for fell cleave and armor break i consider a must.
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By Sylvebits 2024-11-14 09:13:25
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Hmmm okay, that helps narrow what my next REMA for DRK will be. I had considered Ragnarok since the ACC looked pretty nice on it for certain situations.

Is there a case for swapping weapons midfight to perform SCing as well? Or does Calad dominate that department as well?
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By Atrox78 2024-11-14 11:16:21
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Sylvebits said: »
Hmmm okay, that helps narrow what my next REMA for DRK will be. I had considered Ragnarok since the ACC looked pretty nice on it for certain situations.

Is there a case for swapping weapons midfight to perform SCing as well? Or does Calad dominate that department as well?

I know drg and sam can do this but think it would be a hard sell on Drk and i honestly see zero point of it. Even if possible, youll be nerfing any ws that scales with tp for the sake of a sc that most like will not be better then qhat you could do staying with the best weapon. It's best to stick to one weapon per fight, unless you are opening with armor break and then swapping back to GS or Scythe.

Caladbolg offers simplicity. You get a two step light and all the other percs that come with the weapon (white dmg, a good easy sc, flexibility with other jobs to make good skillchains) at the cost of limiting skillchaing options because GS is among the worst weapon types for skillchain. If you're look8ng for more sc ability, Scythe is the way to go. 4 and 5 step darkness skillchains are very easy to make at the cost of weapon delay and typically weaker ws numbers (cross reaper and origin excluded).

Not sure what you're trying to do but I recommend just stick8ng with one weapon at a time.
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By Nariont 2024-11-14 11:43:02
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Sylvebits said: »
I had considered Ragnarok since the ACC looked pretty nice on it for certain situations.

Would suggest an apoc for utility purposes tbh

Sylvebits said: »
Is there a case for swapping weapons midfight to perform SCing as well? Or does Calad dominate that department as well?

Not too much really, you carry a GA for breaks and the mentioned FC above and otherwise move to your preferred weapon of choice. You might be able to do something just messing around but spammings still probably the way to go
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2024-11-14 13:08:41
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When I was bored, I used to multi step using Raetic Algol+1 and Father Time Path B. Losing TP wasn't much of a penalty when every weapon had follow up attacks.

Resolution > Torcleaver (Distortion) > Insurgency (Fusion) > Entropy (Gravitation) > Torcleaver (Darkness) > Quietus (Darkness [lvl.4])

Torcleaver > Insurgency (Fusion) > Resolution (Light) > Torcleaver (Light)

Resolution > Torcleaver (Distortion) > Insurgency (Fusion) > Resolution (Light) > Torcleaver (Light [lvl.4])

Entropy > Resolution (Fragmentation) > Insurgency (Light) > Torcleaver (Light [lvl.4])

Granted an occasional entropy was needed to keep MP top off, but it was entertaining.

It's just for funsies. It worked with NQ Raetic weapons when I had no REMAs and I was just grinding job points on Apex Pugils.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2024-11-14 14:24:06
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I don't think you'd want you swap out of Caladbolg anyways, as you lose AM3. DRK really isn't the job for that kind of optimization, or I should say it's unnecessary. You deal so much damage just with Torcleaver alone that it's not much of an advantage. Now Anguta/Redemption might be a different story
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By Asura.Skittylove 2024-11-23 18:57:37
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Hello, I haven’t played since like the introductions of master levels. When I left I was starting to making caladbolg. With the introduction of prime weapons is there any point to caladbolg? Assuming that I have other geared jobs to help me obtain the stage 5 prime weapons.
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By Nariont 2024-11-23 19:27:30
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Calads still competitive with AM3 and a light making machine, but primes still generally better afaik for raw GS DPS
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-11-23 21:02:17
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Stage 4 primes are best case 3 months to complete with a very good group, stage 5 is minimum 6 months.

The primes will out-perform empyrean most of the time, imo, but with these restrictions of time to create primes, it may be worth making empy for the intervening time, that's a personal decision. Ditto for DNC, in my opinion
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By eliroo 2024-11-23 22:45:08
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Sweet thanks for the answers!
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By Atrox78 2024-11-24 04:29:34
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Asura.Skittylove said: »
Hello, I haven’t played since like the introductions of master levels. When I left I was starting to making caladbolg. With the introduction of prime weapons is there any point to caladbolg? Assuming that I have other geared jobs to help me obtain the stage 5 prime weapons.

Caldabolg is still a monster and I'd argue that's it is still the most dmg that drk can do, atleast compared to stage 4 primes. At worst it's very closely bebind the stage 4 GS and just ahead of scythe.
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By Sylvebits 2024-11-24 12:28:51
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Thanks everyone for the responses regarding weapon swapping. I've decided to complete the GA ambu weapon for armour break, and am almost done stage 4 of apoc heh.

My weapon arsenal for DRK is shaping up nicely. At the moment:
-Caladbolg
-Blurred Shield +1
-Naegling
-Hepatizon axe +1
-Kaja Axe
-Apoc on the way

As for JP, when does DRK start to feel the effects of JPs? At the 500 mark or ?
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By Nariont 2024-11-24 12:46:03
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Drain 3 imo, rest arent major milestones just gradual improvements like everyone else

Also not sure how often youll be using naeg/blurred, if at all. DRKs one of those jobs that just gets so much from using a 2 hander(LR 15~25% job haste, smite V for 30%~ atk) but good to have if you use WAR too
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By Atrox78 2024-11-24 15:28:53
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Nariont said: »
Drain 3 imo, rest arent major milestones just gradual improvements like everyone else

Also not sure how often youll be using naeg/blurred, if at all. DRKs one of those jobs that just gets so much from using a 2 hander(LR 15~25% job haste, smite V for 30%~ atk) but good to have if you use WAR too

Agreed. Only t time i can think of when drk would savage is bumba. Trade the sword for the unity club.
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By Sylvebits 2024-11-24 15:55:04
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Nariont said: »
Drain 3 imo, rest arent major milestones just gradual improvements like everyone else

Also not sure how often youll be using naeg/blurred, if at all. DRKs one of those jobs that just gets so much from using a 2 hander(LR 15~25% job haste, smite V for 30%~ atk) but good to have if you use WAR too

I see I see. So any large bump in DMG will come from master levels then and gear? I often see DRKs Torc WSing for 40k+ consistently while not being fully mastered.

I only have WAR to 60, but I have been debating taking it to 99 since I appear to like having an arsenal of weapons to use - I just like being prepared and ready to use whatever heh. I already have Shining One, naeg/bltrred.. but I really like the access to dark magic and my JAs as DRK. I'm also super turned off by having to build Ukon atm after finishing Caladbolg and working on Apoc xD...


Atrox78 said: »
Nariont said: »
Drain 3 imo, rest arent major milestones just gradual improvements like everyone else

Also not sure how often youll be using naeg/blurred, if at all. DRKs one of those jobs that just gets so much from using a 2 hander(LR 15~25% job haste, smite V for 30%~ atk) but good to have if you use WAR too

Agreed. Only t time i can think of when drk would savage is bumba. Trade the sword for the unity club.

Would you DW with the club or just fencer with it?
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By Nariont 2024-11-24 16:15:55
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only time you'd pull out club is in places like gaol where you would be SJless

as for WAR, of the REMAs, aside from prime the aeonics usually the go to imo
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By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2024-11-30 17:50:43
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Is there a simple LUA I can look at? I saw the one of the high tier sets page but it has a bunch of toggles and auto swapping gear depending on which way the wind is blowing.. kind of just looking for a simple one that functions similar to how .xmls used to go xD
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2024-11-30 18:28:54
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said: »
Is there a simple LUA I can look at? I saw the one of the high tier sets page but it has a bunch of toggles and auto swapping gear depending on which way the wind is blowing.. kind of just looking for a simple one that functions similar to how .xmls used to go xD

Here is mine. Has some toggles, but I feel is fairly basic. Mostly a stripped down version of some others I've seen.
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By Taint 2024-11-30 22:28:23
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Mine
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2024-12-26 07:53:30
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In the BG Wiki guide it has the Ignominy Head +3 as maybe for the absorb duration. Is there a reason it's not wanted for the Souleater +6?
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By Taint 2024-12-26 09:32:22
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Ignominy Head +3


WSs are too strong making SE a tiny DPS increase, or a muted soul tool.
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By Nariont 2024-12-26 09:50:33
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Soul Eeater has to be in huge amounts for it to be worth anything, which only weapons get, still BiS for absorbs as stated, and a general dark macc piece
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