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(Don't) Fear the Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide
By Quetzacoatl 2017-02-10 22:44:32
Added a "general notice" to the dark magic sets concerning AF 119 heads and Pixie +1.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 12:05:34
you do want pixie 100% for drain/aspir, just not for abs spells
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-02-11 12:49:25
Figured a magic accuracy piece like Flamma would do better than Pixie. Unless the hairpin gives more than 28 magic accuracy?
Elemental MAB/Affinity is just for damage.
Yeah I figured as much, was wondering why the Absorb set on the guide makes use of hairpin and archon ring.
That's a good question. Pixie Hairpin +1 assumes you don't have Ignominy Head +2/+3. Since INT affects accuracy, the INT on Pixie +1 is higher than Ignominy +1, but with +2/+3 around the bend, I think it's safe to say that Pixie's more or less a pricey sidegrade now.
I'll have to update that set and add that subtext.
That's irrelevant though, as regardless even the AF+1 has more macc.
However, for damaging dark elemental spells (including Aspir) Pixie+1 is far away the best. The two headpieces don't really occupy the same niche.
In regards to the rings, it should be Kishar/whatever your highest macc ring is (Evanescence is fine, but Stikini Ring is better).
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 13:43:32
would the Karieyh Ring be better? The new version is definitely better
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 13:47:51
so im missing 1 item from a perfect torc set....
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 13:52:24
you do want pixie 100% for drain/aspir, just not for abs spells
I have a specific toggle for my Drain set.
Duration or Potency Mode
Duration: Locks Relic head so my Max HP buff is up full time. I use it to prevent any death ( i can even /war, LR, Berserk, etc w/o risk)
Potency: Locks Hairpin, for Max Drain dmg. I use it for a full use of Souleater.
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-02-11 14:01:13
Uh, you know that absorb duration gear doesn't apply to Drain II/III, right?
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:05:35
Uh, you know that absorb duration gear doesn't apply to Drain II/III, right?
Yes i know. I forgot to specify it: It applies to Drain III.
edit: oh right, Quetz forgot to fix it in the Guide, i told him though! /cheer Quetzacoatl
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-02-11 14:19:33
It doesn't apply to Drain III; none of the Absorb duration gear modifies the 3 minute duration for Drain II and Drain III's max HP boost.
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:21:07
Ok so the relic reforged head extends just drain3 duration and not drain2? Does it need to be equipped as spell is cast or as it lands or throughout? Just thinking would I use it precast over Carmine then swap it in or on activating dark seal only? Just for a vanilla player how best would I set that up? And then naturally have a dif set that swaps Carmine + pixie+1 precast>>landing
Yes this is confusing
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:23:03
It doesn't apply to Drain III; none of the Absorb duration gear modifies the 3 minute duration for Drain II and Drain III's max HP boost.
Ok then my Dark Seal and Nether Void timers are 3min instead of 5
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:25:08
Let's do some testing !
Someone that has the 119 piece that is cause I just 109d it atm
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-02-11 14:25:30
It doesn't apply to Drain III; none of the Absorb duration gear modifies the 3 minute duration for Drain II and Drain III's max HP boost.
Ok then my Dark Seal and Nether Void timers are 3min instead of 5 I literally just retested it, just for you, so...
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:26:34
Ok so the relic reforged head extends just drain3 duration and not drain2? Does it need to be equipped as spell is cast or as it lands or throughout? Just thinking would I use it precast over Carmine then swap it in or on activating dark seal only? Just for a vanilla player how best would I set that up? And then naturally have a dif set that swaps Carmine + pixie+1 precast>>landing
Yes this is confusing
The Relic head has to be equipped when u land Drain3 for the 4min30 duration.
Even if u use it for Precast, it has already -10% casting, so its very close to Carmine
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-02-11 14:31:04
Oh, Relic head; I misread and thought you were talking about the AF head +2/3. I haven't tested the Dark Seal augment.
My mistake.
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:32:58
Ok slightly more odd question, what's the cap on DM augs for drain/aspir and do we know if magic burst bonus would affect it?
Could picture a macc50/drain-aspir15/mbb15 lolololol ah dreams
Edit:yes I highly doubt you could get this combo for various obvious reasons
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:39:31
Oh, Relic head; I misread and thought you were talking about the AF head +2/3. I haven't tested the Dark Seal augment.
My mistake.
Go try and enjoy!
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:42:13
If this is true I feel foolish for not 119ing sooner :/ someone able to send an edit to bgwiki as well?
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:45:41
If this is true I feel foolish for not 119ing sooner :/ someone able to send an edit to bgwiki as well?
Bgwiki says : Enhances Dark Seal effect by increasing duration of Dark Magic by 10% per merit level, including Dread Spikes and Absorb Spells but not Drain II's additional effect. (www.bg-wiki.com)
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 14:46:22
MAB i believe was tested to not have an affect, but with lack of mbb gear its hard to say. I have seen some DM augs of 9 for drain, i know merlinic gets 11 base though so id assume thats atleast plausable.
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:53:32
Very aware of mab not affecting it but ty :), been drk long long time but only returned in May after a 4-5year absence (might have been April, was first time ambu was implemented)
Got an ody legs with mac/mab17 stp 7 and drain-aspir 6 haven't figured out if that's worth using as yet considering I use eschite typically with heathen for NV activations. Pretty sure they're garbage but I thought it was neat lol
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 14:55:10
Doesn't say it affects drain3 though which is somewhat misleading by nature of ppl assuming (which is what i did) that that comment goes hand an hand with drain3
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 14:56:58
Oh, Relic head; I misread and thought you were talking about the AF head +2/3. I haven't tested the Dark Seal augment.
My mistake.
Go try and enjoy!
Exact Duration is 4min38sec, i have DS and NV timers @22sec
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 15:11:50
I just tested with Ganno, relic head DOES affect drain3 but NOT drain2. He has 5/5 merits and gets 4:38 and I have 1 and was getting 3:19.
This is huge new to me as I always assumed from wiki that it doesnt affect drain3. That ***needs to be updated immediately!
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 15:42:09
So this is now my Drain3 set while DS/ NV is up. normally puts me at 6000~ depending content. This will also give with 5/5 DS merits a timer of 4:38 sec :D damn hot if you ask me
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I know its missing some things like archon ring (0/11) and erra pendant (never win lot). Other than that its more or less what I want.
By veddertehtaco 2017-02-11 16:43:25
Oh man tough call between 1/5 ds an 4/5 diabolic eye or vice versa
What have you guys done? Strengths weaknesses of each?
Accuracy is always fantastic but your typically getting it from outside sources
Don't see many ppl even talk about diabolic eye though with hp-15% for a gain of only 20acc base I get it though right now I think I have it at 4/5, so that's 35acc an 3:24 up time, could probably just do abs-acc for a better return(?)
Maybe even drop DE entirely?
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-02-11 17:33:40
Oh man tough call between 1/5 ds an 4/5 diabolic eye or vice versa
What have you guys done? Strengths weaknesses of each?
Accuracy is always fantastic but your typically getting it from outside sources
Don't see many ppl even talk about diabolic eye though with hp-15% for a gain of only 20acc base I get it though right now I think I have it at 4/5, so that's 35acc an 3:24 up time, could probably just do abs-acc for a better return(?)
Maybe even drop DE entirely?
I personnaly removed all DE merits. They 5/5 onto DS.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-11 18:15:46
i dropped DE and went DS 5/5.
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By Fenrir.Pertalee 2017-02-13 14:58:53
Same, No DE, 5/5 DS.
By Quetzacoatl 2017-02-13 21:12:07
I'd like to go down the road of 5/5 DS merits and drop DE, but as it is right now, I'm not at the point where I could consider myself capped on accuracy. Here are what my current "high acc" build is like with Montante +1 and Apocalypse 119, after 4 months of playing again:
Val.Mask augmented with STR+10 ACC+29 ATT+13, Crit Hit Damage +1%.
Ankou's mantle with DEX+20 ACC+30 ATT+20.
Set 1 gives me 1063 ACC before food and buffs
Set 2 gives me 1109 ACC before food and buffs.
I usually roll with Sublime Sushi for more acc. But yeah, this is my accuracy dilemma at the moment.
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