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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2012-10-06 14:32:33
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Yeah I'm not saying it's difficult (and really being an accountant has nothing to do with it), I've just always been good with numbers. Been handed many bills at restaurants and asked to split things or calculate tax off the top of my head (might be because my friends and family are math HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE).

Besides, most accountants have calculators at their desk anyway. Who really needs to know how to add, subtract, multiply, or divide?
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By Jetackuu 2012-10-06 14:44:44
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said: »
Yeah I'm not saying it's difficult (and really being an accountant has nothing to do with it), I've just always been good with numbers. Been handed many bills at restaurants and asked to split things or calculate tax off the top of my head (might be because my friends and family are math HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE).

Besides, most accountants have calculators at their desk anyway. Who really needs to know how to add, subtract, multiply, or divide?

I guess it just helps when you get the result and know it's not right, aka typos.

I could be an accountant, but I'm not Jewish.

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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2012-10-06 15:05:27
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Funny thing about that. I'm not jewish either, but my nickname is Ju (pronounced jew). My buddies ragged me hard when I decided to be an accountant.
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By BakingJonez 2012-10-06 15:16:08
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Jetackuu said: »
BakingJonez said: »
It appears to me the main issue, as stated in the report, is the fact she uses this alias to post offensive things which she would not say in public.

The liberal bias in these forums is disgusting. I am sure it would be ok for Paul Ryan to post how bored he was at work and would rather be in Vana'diel or Mitt Romney to play ffxi and post on forums calling gays *** because, well....

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She also appears to refer to members of the Tea Party as, well, teabaggers.

so that came as big news to them that they are often called that?

So its acceptable, because they are often called it.

1. grow up.
2. it's not "liberal bias" it's that we're not all *** idiots, if that makes us lean against Republicans, well then that should speak for itself.

3. It's acceptable because it's mocking something that should be mocked, again grow up.

It is bias. You hold others accountable for things you would sweep under your rug, or allow your friends/idols to get away with.

So, peoples beliefs can be met with mockery whenever they are different than your own feelings. Ok, tell me how that isn't biased and how that is so democratic.

The teaparty movement has been peaceful, hasn't affected you in any way. Yet, you bash on it because the liberal media told you it is bad.
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By Jetackuu 2012-10-06 15:23:31
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No I don't, and I can't say that I have any political idols.

No people's beliefs can always be met with mediocrity, especially when they're stupid, then they can also be met with ridicule and disgust.

Peaceful my ***, and it spreads stupidity and ignorance, not to mention is an insult to what it took it's name from. I bash on it because it's stupid.


Your last comment is also funny, and shows you know how to do nothing but ad-hominem, and attack others based upon your twisted world view, instead of actual facts.

Come back when you have something more than "liberal media bias" or "you hate us because we're different."
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By BakingJonez 2012-10-06 15:39:44
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Again, YOU claim them to be stupid. So, if they don't agree with you they are bad, ok got it.

Typical American. Focus on 2 lines and ignore the rest. Reading comprehension {do you need it?}

You must be thinking of the democratic protests.

http://cstrohmeyer.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/occupy-movement-comparison-to-tea-party/

Find me a legitimate negative other than, not being able to push communist(democratic) agenda's as easily.
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By Jetackuu 2012-10-06 15:43:35
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No. They are stupid because they are *** stupid, it's not that hard to comprehend.

Umm what? Reading comprehension, do you need it? (if you're referring to the other two things in that line, they weren't specifically addressed as they relied on your first comment, which I dismissed as stupidity).

I'm thinking of no such thing.

The idea that you just compared democratic policies as communist ideas shows your ignorance, and really that's all there is to say, I'm done.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-10-06 15:44:22
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BakingJonez said: »
.... I am sure it would be ok for Paul Ryan to post how bored he was at work and would rather be in Vana'diel ....

Actually Ryan tickles catfish as a sport / hobby (not a joke and both more dangerous and messy than MMOs). I am positive he posts in forums dealing with that subject. Posts that have nothing to do with his elected position.

Artemicion said: »
And I suppose killing animals for sport would be an acceptable hobby of leisure for typical or generalized conservatives.

It is for a lot of liberals too.

Lakshmi.Aurilius said: »
Unless your bill ends up being some obscure number like 23.71. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people can't do the math in their head. Most can estimate though.

Auri far too many people cant even do 10% in their heads.

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So, peoples beliefs can be met with mockery whenever they are different than your own feelings. Ok, tell me how that isn't biased and how that is so democratic....

Mockery AND derision. Not to mention spite, vitriol, and scorn. Its the American way. Just check out Fox.

Personally I prefer mockery and humor as done by Stewart and Colbert.

Its democratic because everyone can do it. Some people can do it on TV and I can't. Does that make it less democratic?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-06 15:49:40
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Again, YOU claim them to be stupid. So, if they don't agree with you they are bad, ok got it.
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Two conflicting viewpoints cannot, by definition, be correct.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-10-06 16:01:28
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tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.

This is the best definition of "Stupid" i could find regarding the issue at hand.

If an act which is considered foolish or senseless, without meaning, and so forth occurs, it is typically considered stupid. Which fits the case in point.

Claiming liberal media bias simply because the points of the case has been pointed out, ignoring the facts, and then arguing between who is or isn't stupid, is rather foolish.

John Stewart, Steven Colbert, and their associating pundits such as Wyatt Cynac, Jason Jones and John Oliver, make a mockery of everything political because it's a form of extreme criticism for extremely stupid actions brought forth by the parties they mock. Mocking something completely asinine such as this newstory (if it can be considered news) is a good thing. Regardless of who *could* have been targeted, be it liberal, democrat, republican, libertarian or conservative, etc., the fact remains: It was foolish and senseless, nor had any meaning. Stupid.
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By BakingJonez 2012-10-07 00:38:28
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Just because someone doesn't believe the same things as you, doesn't mean they should deal with hatred over it. But i guess the 'treat everyone equal' parade that supports the democratic party is ok with treating groups of people like ***, as long as they aren't gay or black.

I see the same people defending hate speech that cry against it elsewhere? Nope, no bias here whatsoever. Because teabagger isn't a disgusting term? In your eyes right? People are being flamed for their 'beliefs' and you support it.

Acknowledge you are bias for who can and cannot be oppressed and we can move on.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-10-07 00:42:16
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No one is oppressing the tea party.
No one is taking away their rights or fighting against their having equal rights.
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By Jetackuu 2012-10-07 07:58:06
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for once I'll agree with Sylow on this subject.

Again, it's not a matter of beliefs, it's a matter of logic vs beliefs, the fact that you can't fathom this simple construct is astounding. (To be fair, a lot of people can't).

But to equate a group of people who are there by choice (bad/misguided one mind you) to groups of people who are that way by birth is astoundingly asinine and bigoted and only shows your ignorance, I implore you to take a break and really sit there and think about what you said, from the ground up, logically and see your flaws, as sometimes when heated it's hard to reflect.

For emphasis: teabaggers are in that group by choice, not by birth, you don't have a right to not be ridiculed for bad choices.
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By Vudoku 2012-10-07 09:24:21
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BakingJonez said: »
Jetackuu said: »
BakingJonez said: »
It appears to me the main issue, as stated in the report, is the fact she uses this alias to post offensive things which she would not say in public.

The liberal bias in these forums is disgusting. I am sure it would be ok for Paul Ryan to post how bored he was at work and would rather be in Vana'diel or Mitt Romney to play ffxi and post on forums calling gays *** because, well....

Jetackuu said: »
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She also appears to refer to members of the Tea Party as, well, teabaggers.

so that came as big news to them that they are often called that?

So its acceptable, because they are often called it.

1. grow up.
2. it's not "liberal bias" it's that we're not all *** idiots, if that makes us lean against Republicans, well then that should speak for itself.

3. It's acceptable because it's mocking something that should be mocked, again grow up.

It is bias. You hold others accountable for things you would sweep under your rug, or allow your friends/idols to get away with.

So, peoples beliefs can be met with mockery whenever they are different than your own feelings. Ok, tell me how that isn't biased and how that is so democratic.

The teaparty movement has been peaceful, hasn't affected you in any way. Yet, you bash on it because the liberal media told you it is bad.
THE LIBERAL MEDIA??????????????????????????????????
WHERE THE *** IS THE LIBERAL MEDIA??
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-10-07 09:45:11
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Vudoku said: »
THE LIBERAL MEDIA??????????????????????????????????
WHERE THE *** IS THE LIBERAL MEDIA??
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME!

Actually there IS a liberal media. It is mostly small magazines like The Nation or Mother Jones and weekly newspapers like the Seattle Stranger. Online The Huffington Post springs right to mind but nothing else does.

Daily newspapers, TV, radio, and cable stations, and most internet news outlets aren't a part.
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2012-10-07 10:08:25
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Double negatives!
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By BakingJonez 2012-10-10 16:39:34
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lol. Most media outlets sway left. To disagree is naive or just wearing blinders.

Again, it comes down to, are we going to fight against hate of all kinds, or just limit it to those things you care about.

To me, teaching your kids its ok to hate and slander other people, 'teabaggers','libtards' etc. because they believe something different than you is no different than teaching racism or bigotry. No different at all.
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By Lye 2012-10-10 16:48:15
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BakingJonez said: »

To me, teaching your kids its ok to hate and slander other people, 'teabaggers','libtards' etc. because they believe something different than you is no different than teaching racism or bigotry. No different at all.

Actually, they are vastly different. One difference that pops to mind is the ability change said point of criticism.

I can change my beliefs a lot more easily than I can change my DNA.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-10-10 16:48:48
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BakingJonez said: »
lol. Most media outlets sway left. To disagree is naive or just wearing blinders.

[citation plea--- hahaha, who am I kidding...

Equating political namecalling to racism is not only logically fallacious, it's insulting to anyone who has actually experienced real racism and oppression.
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By BakingJonez 2012-10-10 17:01:09
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Lol ok. Good luck explaining that to your 4 year old that's listening to you bash on people and learning from you.

Always an excuse to make hate ok or justified in the eyes of the bigot. Excuses are like ***. etc etc.

Once 'everyone' actually stands up against hatred of all kinds, not just whats convenient to them, maybe it will start to recede.

One person at a time. I guess that won't be you guys or any generation soon. All sides are full of hate and its ridiculous.

We will never get there when people make excuses for their choices instead of evolving.

Until you can clean hate from your life, don't chastise others for it.

lol. No you are right, all media is fair and balanced except fox.

I'm sure you seen this in the mainstream media.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/09/30/obama-administration-tells-contractors-facing-sequestration-to-not-warn-employees-about-potential-layoffs/

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2012/10/09/obama_asks_big_business_to_break_the_law_99925.html

If that was George Bush, it would be.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-10-10 17:11:16
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Not all sides, no. Hatred is a cultural constant right now, but groups that break away from cultural norm are not always subject to it. Perhaps Democrat and Republicans are, but that's what the system has boiled down to, and its only in the heavily polarized demographics. There's more fundamentally wrong with the system than name-calling - a deeper root of manipulation. The hate and the name-calling are just symptoms of much larger issues that go unaddressed.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-10-10 17:20:05
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Oh these political threads. Always good for a laugh and some /facepalming.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-10-10 17:48:09
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Do have some insight into the alternate universe where George Bush somehow has to deal with the impending sequestration? The "well, if it was Bush" argument is not very compelling.

Also, I think Forbes.com would qualify as mainstream. There's also:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katherine-vw-stone/this-years-october-surpri_b_1955238.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/at-white-house-request-lockheed-martin-drops-plan-to-issue-layoff-notices/
http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/259431-lockheed-martin-wont-issue-layoff-notices-this-year

All mainstream and all report the same story. But yeah it's the media that's biased...

Edit: Anyway, these are all *** blogs (your links included). Blogs are probably the worst sources to cite as examples of bias because they're all basically commentary in the first place. And I would feel bad for anyone if their source for 'objective' news was blogs.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-10-10 18:01:31
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BakingJonez said: »
lol. Most media outlets sway left. To disagree is naive or just wearing blinders.

Again, it comes down to, are we going to fight against hate of all kinds, or just limit it to those things you care about.

To me, teaching your kids its ok to hate and slander other people, 'teabaggers','libtards' etc. because they believe something different than you is no different than teaching racism or bigotry. No different at all.

People mock the tea party because they disagree with their worldview which is largely a throwback to an age where discrimination was far more potent and ingrained in society as it is today. This isn't to say that legitimate issues aren't raised by some members of the party but its all mired down in ignorance, hatred and ultimately regressive ideology.

When members of the Tea Party and republicans back hot button issues like slavery being beneficial to blacks, creationism trumping scientific inquiry, gays being a curse upon society, Abraham Lincoln being a Marxist or women needing to act in accordance with Biblical literalism you will get spirited pushback as what these issues amount to is hate speech.

You're protected by the law of the land but don't think people are going to sit back and accept what you're peddling. Thing is, I can mock your beliefs and assert my own as more useful to society and we can play this little game for all eternity but when legislation is being constructed to obstruct groups of people lead by members of the tea party then it's no longer merely ridicule and that is the reality of the Republican / Tea Party.

For all the smoke blown about SOCIALISM!! the real actions are being taken by the right to preserve their ideals via stripping rights. When it isn't gays, its women and when it isn't those two its minorities. The Phantom Obama who happens to be a Communist sympathizer who wants to turn us into Soviet Russia is nothing more than a boogeyman that simply isn't backed up by the facts.
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By Lye 2012-10-10 18:14:22
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BakingJonez said: »
Lol ok. Good luck explaining that to your 4 year old that's listening to you bash on people and learning from you.

Seriously?

This is nonsense worthy of that stupid lady on "The Simpsons" that's always screaming:

"What about the children!?!?!?!?!??!"

I shudder to think about what kind of adult would be spawned from an environment where they were UNABLE to criticize......
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By Jetackuu 2012-10-10 20:39:02
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BakingJonez said: »
lol. Most media outlets sway left. To disagree is naive or just wearing blinders.

Again, it comes down to, are we going to fight against hate of all kinds, or just limit it to those things you care about.

To me, teaching your kids its ok to hate and slander other people, 'teabaggers','libtards' etc. because they believe something different than you is no different than teaching racism or bigotry. No different at all.

no most media "swings" to the center but you're idea of the left is truly in the center as your "right" is so far off the edge to the right it's ridiculous.

No, we just fight the kinds that actually matter, which aren't subjective, like you seem to think they are.

It is OK to hate people who are purposefully ignorant, people who are bigots, and are outright ***. It's worlds different, and like I said before you seriously need to step back and rethink from the ground up your arguments, but I'm starting to think you're incapable of thinking critically.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-10-11 09:10:12
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Every time I hear someone yelling about being oppressed I think back to this

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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-10-11 09:23:52
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Lye said: »
BakingJonez said: »
Lol ok. Good luck explaining that to your 4 year old that's listening to you bash on people and learning from you.
Seriously? This is nonsense worthy of that stupid lady on "The Simpsons" that's always screaming: "What about the children!?!?!?!?!??!" I shudder to think about what kind of adult would be spawned from an environment where they were UNABLE to criticize......
Constructive criticism is one thing...

Spewing hateful remarks really only serves to bring us farther apart on our differences... It solves nothing other than maybe self gratification for "sticking it to em" for something one does or says... when you're trying to accomplish a goal or bring someone to "see the light" so to speak... calling them a retard or ignorant does nothing to help but only hurts the cause... that and you come off looking like a fool for having to resort to insults instead of relying on intelligent debate... whether you're right or wrong it just really doesn't help anything...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-10-11 09:41:53
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
BakingJonez said: »
Again, YOU claim them to be stupid. So, if they don't agree with you they are bad, ok got it. .
Two conflicting viewpoints cannot, by definition, be correct.
Both of them could be wrong as well... both parties could be arguing equally foolish viewpoints... Nothing really says that one party has to be right lol...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-10-11 10:00:50
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BakingJonez said: »
... stuff ...

In a failed attempt to justify a ridiculous and off topic derail.