Presidental Debate One

Then judging by that chart he needs to tell me:

A) When will he be rescending the bush tax cuts?
B) When will he be ending the wars?
C) Will he continue with recovery measures?

I suppose the TARP/Fanny/Freddie issue was a one time thing (hopefully) and he has spoken about economic recovery which is at least trending the right way although still in bad shape. But I've heard the "I'm bringing the boys back home" speech before. And nobody has the balls to say "Look at this chart. The Bush tax cuts are responsible for half of the deficit so we need to cut them out."

What is he going to do to take away the red line? The light blue line? The orange line? If you can tell me how.....and do it with a straight face while telling me that taking away the yellow line and blue line won't adversely affect the economy....that's what I want to hear.

INB4 apparently Obama didn't...

It does, but the prior year's passed budget doesn't matter. It isn't an excuse because the president and congress can still enact executive orders/laws that affect current year fiscal appropriations.

Laws aren't really a problem when you're the one writing and passing the laws.

Wait... what?

If you guys are so above it all, why are you here?
To find each other, of course!

I never claimed to be above it; I certainly try my best to stay out of it, however. I see comments like "I love how Obama smirks when Romney is speaking", "Obama doesn't need to pwn [sic] Romney, he's doing it himself", and... I just take note. So if I see someone making a generalization, a generalization I agree with, and only that -- a generalization, not a personal attack towards anyone here specifically -- I just want to say, "you're not alone", more or less.

If you don't get the feeling that people across the country, and also here, are treating this like a popularity contest with a personal investment attached; that people are treating this like they're less watching two potential Heads of State, and more squaring off their own rigorously trained Pokemon against a bitter rival, then... maybe you want to argue with me? Or perhaps even agree. I don't know.

To answer your question, I feel I have just as much a right to post here as anyone else, and I don't see you explaining yourself so why should I?

Fair enough. Yeah, we've each made our quips about the candidates, but you also can't ignore the valid arguments that were made afterwards.

He answered A and C to an extent in the debate and you can find great detail about all 3 topics on his website and in various credible media outlets.

The information is out there if you are willing to look for it.

Wait... what?

The prior year's passed budget doesn't matter.

Guess I'm just jaded. I really wish politicians would be banned from fundraising and just put their whole plan on a four page word document, let us read it, and let us call them out when they dont do it when elected.

[+]d because I thoroughly agree with this.

Would also be cool if we had debates with live, instant fact checks and youtube video displays so candidates can hold their opponents to their word.

He's still working off the lie that the supermajority started the second Obama's hand touched the Qur'an.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/03/fact-checking-denver-presidential-debate/

There ya go.

Yea, you're not misinterpreting that at all. They certainly meant by "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" that the government should take care of all health issues its citizens may encounter. That makes sense, being it was written during a time where a common cold could kill your *** and the life expectancy was about 35.

I bet by pursuit of happiness they meant we should all get $1,000,000 when we're born. Yea, having $1,000,000 should be everyone's liberty, not just to those that earn it.

Since when do liberals quote the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution anyways, thought you guys didn't believe in those?

Point is Obama says that is money we didn't have and shouldnt have spent. So why does he want to continue to use that money after the wars are over indefinitely?

Point is Obama says that is money we didn't have and shouldnt have spent. So why does he want to continue to use that money after the wars are over indefinitely?

So he is excusing his massive deficits then? Got it. He cannot blame Bush for the defeicit when he is using that money for something entirely different.

Should fact check before you try to sound any smarter. Much of what you're blaming the current president on has already been addressed in this forum, along with the 2 crispy critter versions that sated the belly of an unquenchable beast already.

The facts are there. The logic is there. The debate and information is readily available to see, and yet every time you post, it's always to the extreme side of the ignorant ramblings.

"President is bad, M'kay" "But why, Mr Maki?" Because the president is bad! M'kay!" *numerous reports of every good thing he's done, every report of every filibustered moved by his own people and the opposition*