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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 17:57:35
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I havent seen much on current TP sets for pup, and since I see extensive threads for other jobs I thought it would be cool for pup to build its own thread for up-to-date TP sets. So I thought I'd post mine for any ideas from other pups.





I dont currently have the feet yet, but I do NNI every week, and this will be my next piece to get. I was thinking of getting (or trying) the Usukane feet just to cap haste, but I'm unsure if 3% DA and 14ATK would lose to 1% Haste.

Im sitting at 25% haste with this, and was wondering if -tier of MA was worth adding 1% haste in the leg area with Thaumas to cap haste.

Vere is 90.

Any critisim would be awesome, and posting your sets would be cool to collect ideas for everyone!
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By DjenadiofAsura 2012-08-11 18:05:25
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That set looks nearly identical to mine, xcept I use Rancorous Mantle since my Automaton is usually in Whm/Rdm and I dont have Veres. But the Pantin Cape is great when you have melee Automaton out.
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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 18:31:47
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DjenadiofAsura said: »
That set looks nearly identical to mine, xcept I use Rancorous Mantle since my Automaton is usually in Whm/Rdm and I dont have Veres. But the Pantin Cape is great when you have melee Automaton out.


Yea I didnt think about that lol. Im going to do that from now on. Use Rancorous when I got a mage auto out thats not really DD'ing, or isnt much of a help to DD. Good Idea, cant believe I didnt think of that.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-08-11 18:54:04
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I was looking at this about a month or two ago. Messing around with a spreadsheet and ignoring the augments we've now found on things like Tenryu Tekko +1 as well as Automaton damage, the best TP set I could come up with looked something like this.

Ignore the Moonshade as that's worse than an attack earring and the only reason I have it in there is because I already have Regain on it and am too lazy to switch it to TP bonus.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-08-11 19:58:55
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I've been using blithe mantle when using the mage automation
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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 21:12:52
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
I was looking at this about a month or two ago. Messing around with a spreadsheet and ignoring the augments we've now found on things like Tenryu Tekko +1 as well as Automaton damage, the best TP set I could come up with looked something like this.

Ignore the Moonshade as that's worse than an attack earring and the only reason I have it in there is because I already have Regain on it and am too lazy to switch it to TP bonus.

One thing Im confused about is losing the +2 legs. That is -MA and the neck alone isnt enough for a Tier, so if you take away teh +2 legs, is the neck even worth running anymore?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-08-11 21:17:42
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Whether it's a full tier or not the -Delay from it pushes it above other options. This is even after trying to switch it out for Rancor Collar and trying a different cape. Not to mention other options.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-11 21:20:04
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Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.
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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 21:36:08
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Whether it's a full tier or not the -Delay from it pushes it above other options. This is even after trying to switch it out for Rancor Collar and trying a different cape. Not to mention other options.

Yes I suppose that is true. Those Tenryu Tekko +1 are nice. Maybe I should start joining more Provenence /sh lol
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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 21:37:46
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-11 21:39:03
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Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.
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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 21:44:28
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.

Well idk what to tell you then, ignore my stupidity i guess
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-11 21:45:10
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Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.

Well idk what to tell you then, ignore my stupidity i guess
That was my plan.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xyclo 2012-08-11 21:49:38
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Since not many of have the availability to do Nyzul we all don't have the new Thaumas gear ;P
This is what I use though.

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By Shotaro 2012-08-11 21:52:49
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.

Well idk what to tell you then, ignore my stupidity i guess
That was my plan.

cool bro

Quetzalcoatl.Xyclo said: »
Since not many of have the availability to do Nyzul we all don't have the new Thaumas gear ;P
This is what I use though.


No access to Epona? Or Ghille +1?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xyclo 2012-08-11 22:00:52
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Stingy Rani is Stingy
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2012-08-12 02:57:13
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.

Well idk what to tell you then, ignore my stupidity i guess
That was my plan.

Do you get off on being incredibly abrasive?
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By Shotaro 2012-08-12 03:11:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Shotaro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Martial arts isn't in tiers anyways.

Levels? I, II, III does it matter what I call it? lol

I mean it goes from LEVEL V to VI with neck and legs...better? rofl
No, not really.

Well idk what to tell you then, ignore my stupidity i guess
That was my plan.

Do you get off on being incredibly abrasive?
:/

seems so :/
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2012-08-12 03:29:26
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Quetzalcoatl.Xyclo said: »
Stingy Rani is Stingy
/comfort 1/12 on my ring. Keep at it though you'll get it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2012-08-12 03:43:12
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Quetzalcoatl.Xyclo said: »
Stingy Rani is Stingy

if you ever need/want help im always a tell away :]
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By Siren.Vanian 2012-08-12 16:47:59
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is what I currently use, with 12 dex merits the aurore feet help cap dDex against most dyna DC mobs (as an elvaan), inside abyssea I'd switch to savateur's, unless you have usukane, then use them.
As far as I can tell this is currently the best non NNI gear set, which considering its all abyssea +2 gear is pretty sad
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By Siren.Lugado 2012-08-16 17:19:06
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I would think the athos boots would trump the aurore although nowhere near as easy to obtain
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By Siren.Lugado 2012-08-16 22:30:48
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would toci's harness with the head be better for tp phase than the cirque gear and body? my gut says yes but I'm fairly new to pup
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By Sylph.Jkun 2012-08-17 06:40:21
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Working on Nyzul/Vere after finishing up my DRK's Apoc build. What's the general opinion on Faith Torque these days? I have Cirque too, but just wondering.
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By Fenrir.Soulstealers 2012-08-18 22:11:05
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-08-18 22:21:06
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Fenrir.Soulstealers said: »

I count 24 haste. Am I missing something? I think Athos given their haste or even Savateur's would be better given the DA is devalued (albeit by not THAT much) but all the other multi hit anyways, no? And Savateur's have kicks :P
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-18 22:21:58
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Or just use cirque +2 hands and not lose thaumas feet.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-08-18 22:23:03
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That too lol
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By Sylph.Washburn 2012-08-19 07:17:47
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If youre using AF3 and newer gear, you only need 25% haste. I was testing the the haste effect on embrava when it was first added, and learned through testing that the old "i need 26% to cap 25% haste" was fixed for all newer gear. I'm sure some of you know how haste is read as a value 5% on byakko's haidate was read as 50/1024, so its actually slightly less than 5%. But with the gear i was testing on drk using dread spikes since its the longest recasted spell) i noticed that the newer gear's values were slightly over what percentage was read (5% now is 5.11111% but haste is always rounded down). Basically. Just aim for 25%. Its all you need.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-08-19 07:46:24
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Sylph.Washburn said: »
If youre using AF3 and newer gear, you only need 25% haste. I was testing the the haste effect on embrava when it was first added, and learned through testing that the old "i need 26% to cap 25% haste" was fixed for all newer gear. I'm sure some of you know how haste is read as a value 5% on byakko's haidate was read as 50/1024, so its actually slightly less than 5%. But with the gear i was testing on drk using dread spikes since its the longest recasted spell) i noticed that the newer gear's values were slightly over what percentage was read (5% now is 5.11111% but haste is always rounded down). Basically. Just aim for 25%. Its all you need.

Really?
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