A Scholar's Education (Guide)
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A Scholar's Education (Guide)
Rune Fencer gets a 10% bonus to duration of received Enhancing Magics as a gift. other jobs may receive them as well.
Shiva.Arislan said: » Asura.Toralin said: » When I cast the SE Icon says 13 minutes, it took 20-21 seconds to tick down to 12. So I would say 13:20 on Regen5 LS-mate last night was asking me how it was possible that he had a 14min regen on him, so we were trying to figure out how that was. Maybe it was Regen I with the longer base duration, I dunno. Bahamut.Neb said: » Mine lasts about 11 mins but I swap in Bookoworm with +10 Potency and Bolelabunga which gets me to almost 100/per tick with Perp. My personal opinion is 10% potency and 10 per on cape win over the extra couple mins. Yeah, I employ a toggle, so I can control potency or duration. Both have their uses. you probably had tabula going you get an additiona boost with tabula, and as far as potency i have a toggle setup on F3 to switch from duration/potency gear as previously mentioned Yeah, thought it might be Tabula, but he insisted it wasn't up at the time. Just Light Arts.
Shiva.Arislan said: » Yeah, thought it might be Tabula, but he insisted it wasn't up at the time. Just Light Arts. showing 14:50-14:51ish with Tabula up on Regen5 I can never figure duration out, even on simple stuff. For instance my unbuffed Haste spell is a bit over 4 minutes in duration. The only + duration I have is 5 pieces Telchine with enhancing duration ranging from 6-9 seconds per piece for a total of 38. Haven't been able to figure out why my Haste isn't 3:38.
Duration is %, not seconds.
180 + (180 * 0.38) = 248 = 4:08
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Well..that was way easier than I thought. Dunno why I thought that was seconds. Thanks!
So anyone else have comment on Af3+3 body for enfeebling? could throw in Regal Earring for a 15 macc set bonus also
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The whole set +3 is pretty insane for Enfeebling since they added the set bonus to push it over the border. Excellent INT and MND, extreme MACC and a nice bonus on some pieces:
- Legs +24 Enfeebling Skill during Light Arts - Body +24 Enfeebling Skill during Dark Arts - Feet +20 MACC during the right Grimoire Type Only discussion is on the legs as you would give up your Immunobreak +1 bonus.
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: » The whole set +3 is pretty insane for Enfeebling since they added the set bonus to push it over the border. Excellent INT and MND, extreme MACC and a nice bonus on some pieces: - Legs +24 Enfeebling Skill during Light Arts - Body +24 Enfeebling Skill during Dark Arts - Feet +20 MACC during the right Grimoire Type Only discussion is on the legs as you would give up your Immunobreak +1 bonus. Chironic > Psycloth on SCH? Does the loss of 5 skill matter? Has anyone mathed out any of the Mallquis pieces to see if they should be used in free nuke or MB casting sets (T3+). I understand their + damage lends itself more towards lower tier nukes and helixes, but that doesn't mean one of the pieces doesn't sneak in as a good piece for normal nukes.
I don't play SCH enough to to get value from some of the niche pieces for the set, so just wondering if I should use any for nuking before I store the set as right now it's just taking up inventory space and I don't have a single piece in my Grear swap. I was debating editing my helix set but its already generally MBing for over 10k in buffed situations so doesn't seem worth it atm. Quote: Chironic > Psycloth on SCH? Does the loss of 5 skill matter? By far is an even decendly augmented Chironic Hose better than Psycloth Lappas. Enfeebling skill just translates to MACC. There is no secret witchery to "Skill" somehow outperforming MACC. Quote: Has anyone mathed out any of the Mallquis pieces Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess !
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Hi, I just came back to the game a few months ago and had SCH leveled before I quit in 2013. Are the gearsets on the initial node post updated? They seem a bit out of date to me. Thanks!
Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Quote: Has anyone mathed out any of the Mallquis pieces Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess ! Cause wasn't it determined... forever ago... that Helixes have a cap to their Mdmg/base damage? If you're hitting the base cap, then the fact that they only have 12 MAB (vs the average 25~40) is probably what's killing the numbers... since the massive Mdmg should make up for a fair amount of an INT loss. Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess ! Feet are for AF3 with Klimaform up (which honestly should always be up whenever you use a helix), hands are for Abj. This leaves us with Head, Body and Legs. You need to reach 40% MB without hands/feet. 10% comes from Staff, 10% from neck, that leaves us 20% you need to get between Head/Body/Legs/Ring1 Considering the best ring is 5% MB (Locus) that means you would need ONE Merlinic item with 15% MB bonus. Good luck with that lol. If you fulfill all these conditions then yes, you have TWO slots you can dedicate to Mallquis if you so wish. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I missed any other Magic Burst Damage I source from other slots. Asura.Sechs said: » Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess ! Feet are for AF3 with Klimaform up (which honestly should always be up whenever you use a helix), hands are for Abj. This leaves us with Head, Body and Legs. You need to reach 40% MB without hands/feet. 10% comes from Staff, 10% from neck, that leaves us 20% you need to get between Head/Body/Legs/Ring1 Considering the best ring is 5% MB (Locus) that means you would need ONE Merlinic item with 15% MB bonus. Good luck with that lol. If you fulfill all these conditions then yes, you have TWO slots you can dedicate to Mallquis if you so wish. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I missed any other Magic Burst Damage I source from other slots. Don't recall ever seeing this anywhere on here or the wiki's so not sure if this was a known thing, but a fun fact that's shown up recently on the JP boards.
Apparently ending a SC with a helix gives you a longer MB window, it makes stuff like 5->4 MBing your own sc or doing 6->ja->5 on blm a lot easier. Asura.Sechs said: » Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess ! Feet are for AF3 with Klimaform up (which honestly should always be up whenever you use a helix), hands are for Abj. This leaves us with Head, Body and Legs. You need to reach 40% MB without hands/feet. 10% comes from Staff, 10% from neck, that leaves us 20% you need to get between Head/Body/Legs/Ring1 Considering the best ring is 5% MB (Locus) that means you would need ONE Merlinic item with 15% MB bonus. Good luck with that lol. If you fulfill all these conditions then yes, you have TWO slots you can dedicate to Mallquis if you so wish. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I missed any other Magic Burst Damage I source from other slots. You'd use Mallquis trews +1 in one of those remaining slots, right? Unless I'm misunderstanding and you're trying to not use them. Fenrir.Tarowyn said: » Don't recall ever seeing this anywhere on here or the wiki's so not sure if this was a known thing, but a fun fact that's shown up recently on the JP boards. Apparently ending a SC with a helix gives you a longer MB window, it makes stuff like 5->4 MBing your own sc or doing 6->ja->5 on blm a lot easier.
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Fenrir.Tarowyn said: » Don't recall ever seeing this anywhere on here or the wiki's so not sure if this was a known thing, but a fun fact that's shown up recently on the JP boards. Apparently ending a SC with a helix gives you a longer MB window, it makes stuff like 5->4 MBing your own sc or doing 6->ja->5 on blm a lot easier. Did they test by how much? This sort of tech might be great for extending SCs further down the line to keep the chains running if you're trying to ramp up SC/MB damage. Big if true. Always felt like the window on Gravitation and Compression was a lot longer than others... now I know why, lol.
Fenrir.Tarowyn said: » Don't recall ever seeing this anywhere on here or the wiki's so not sure if this was a known thing, but a fun fact that's shown up recently on the JP boards. Apparently ending a SC with a helix gives you a longer MB window, it makes stuff like 5->4 MBing your own sc or doing 6->ja->5 on blm a lot easier. Sounds true from my experiences, but could you please post the JP forum threads you're referencing? The 2ch threads aren't very interesting, but this is the original blog post that sparked it.
I don't think he did any hard tests on duration but it's pretty noticeable. My personal thoughts on why it works is something like, MB window starts when the helix hits, SC animation can't start until the helix animation ends, MB window ends a set time after the SC animation. http://blog.livedoor.jp/luteff11/archives/51038378.html http://blog.livedoor.jp/luteff11/archives/51039860.html
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I'm fairly certain that a MB window is fixed based on when the packet is received stating a skillchain has occurred. Incoming 0x028 category 3.
I know for a fact SkillChain window is 3 seconds after that packet is received and open for 7 seconds. I anticipate MB's follow a similar pattern. Animations feel longer but have nothing to do timing. -Sam Skillchain window actually shrinks by 1 second for each successive weaponskill used, as opposed to being a static 7 seconds. It's entirely possible other things cause it to vary as well. Some testing on exact time differences would be interesting.
Sammeh said: » I'm fairly certain that a MB window is fixed based on when the packet is received stating a skillchain has occurred. Incoming 0x028 category 3. I know for a fact SkillChain window is 3 seconds after that packet is received and open for 7 seconds. I anticipate MB's follow a similar pattern. Animations feel longer but have nothing to do timing. -Sam I can't say much about the SC packet since I don't normally run a packet sniffer but seriously just try it, 5->4 because almost trivial to do if you have a decent FC set. One example of WS's that have animations (or something) that screw with SC timing is Selh'teus. If you ever try SCing after him based on when his WS animation starts it won't connect, you have to wait a couple seconds after you'd normally expect to WS to be able to SC. Asura. Six said: » Bahamut.Tychefm said: » Just some practical testing. There seems to be some delicate balance where one Mallquis piece can enhance your Helix just by a little bit in some slots but with two your damage goes down again. I encourage anyone who is bored enough to make sense out of the mess ! Feet are for AF3 with Klimaform up (which honestly should always be up whenever you use a helix), hands are for Abj. This leaves us with Head, Body and Legs. You need to reach 40% MB without hands/feet. 10% comes from Staff, 10% from neck, that leaves us 20% you need to get between Head/Body/Legs/Ring1 Considering the best ring is 5% MB (Locus) that means you would need ONE Merlinic item with 15% MB bonus. Good luck with that lol. If you fulfill all these conditions then yes, you have TWO slots you can dedicate to Mallquis if you so wish. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I missed any other Magic Burst Damage I source from other slots.
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Regen V Duration with Light Arts active. Is it still 48 seconds at 99? I need help with math...
Regen Normal: 40/tic @ 60 sec Regen MyGear: Regen+25%,+10; Dur+37%,+12 = 61/tic @ 1min38sec (Duration = ((60+12)X 1.37) ^^ This math above is correct when translated in game for tics and duration. Regen MyGear + LA: Regen+25%,+10,+24; Dur+37%,+12,+48 = 85/tic @ 2min26sec (((60+12)X 1.37)+48) -- I read LA duration applies after all other duration. ^^ This math above is incorrect when translated in game for duration (My potency is correct). In game I get 4min06sec. Regen Mygear +LA+Perpetuance(+gloves so 255%) is incorrect on duration using either 2min26sec or 4min06sec (I get 9min46sec~). I am bad at math but a near double increase in duration seems like something easily noticeable. What am I doing so wrong? |
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