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[Dev] Battle-related Adjustments
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-06 14:20:23
| 07-06-2012 05:44 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep |  |
| [dev1128] Magic Adjustments
The following spell effects will be raised:
In addition, the following effects will also be increased:
The bonus defense enhancement granted by Protectra V.
The Protecra V enhancement attribute of Cleric's Duckbills +2.
The enchantment attribute of Protect Ring and Protect Earring.
The Fields of Valor and Grounds of Valor field support effect White Magic: Protect.
Resistances to the following spells will be changed:
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| 07-06-2012 05:46 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1129] Merit Point Adjustment
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Original topic for discussion
| 07-06-2012 05:48 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1130] Battle-related Adjustments
The interval between the conclusion of battle and the next possible time an attack command can be carried out will be adjusted.
The interval between the time a ranged attack finishes and the next possible time a new command can be carried out will be reduced.
The guard and parry skills will be adjusted so that they may level up even if the skills do not activate when players are attacked.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-06 14:22:08
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-06 14:22:50
Will this be enough to make protect actually relevant and worth having Protectra V at more than 1 merit?
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By Asura.Ina 2012-07-06 14:23:39
They say category and don't mention individual attributes so I'd guess it will only let you go 12 + 12
By Artemicion 2012-07-06 14:24:42
Whoa, the last one is pretty crazy. No more pulling teeth to get guard/parrying up.
Also curious if the attribute merit cap will remain 12 or if they'll let you cap a single one all the way up to 24.
By Artemicion 2012-07-06 14:31:34
Will this be enough to make protect actually relevant and worth having Protectra V at more than 1 merit?
Not likely. I can't see it taking priority over maximum mitigation of magic damage. Though if anything, it might make supertanking possible again with stacked Minne and give some attention to Cannonball for BLUs.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-06 14:32:59
I JUST *** CAPPED GUARD YESTERDAY! *** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-06 14:34:04
I'm sorry. I couldn't control myself. .-. At least parrying shouldn't be as much of a *** after this. :<
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-06 14:35:14
Will this be enough to make protect actually relevant and worth having Protectra V at more than 1 merit?
Not likely. I can't see it taking priority over maximum mitigation of magic damage. Though if anything, it might make supertanking possible again with stacked Minne and give some attention to Cannonball for BLUs. Well max shellra obviously doesn't change, but maybe can take merits out of Devotion and lolMartyr.
By Artemicion 2012-07-06 14:37:43
I suppose with the nature of abyssea and temp item spams, MP management isn't an issue that would need any more than 1 merit in Devotion. So I could possibly see white mages go:
5/5 shellra, 4/5 Protectra 1/5 devotion, and go away Martyr, nobody likes you.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-06 14:38:28
protectra 5 doesn't work on my MNK so I just did 5/5 devotion :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2012-07-06 14:49:57
Requiem all things!
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-07-06 14:56:27
Waste of dev time.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-06 14:57:44
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-07-06 15:00:16
The first thing to buffing defensive buffs is a giant waste of time. Kind of like the nin "merit adjustments", yay futae.
This time could've been better spent on actually adjusting jobs, editing enfeeble resists, buffing worthless jobs(ninja, redmage), editing the enmity system to not be aids, etc.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-06 15:01:28
Adjustments as small as they can be are always worthwhile.
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-07-06 15:02:38
That's like saying it's ok to treat someone who got a paper cut over the person with a gaping hole in their head bleeding to death.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-06 15:04:34
Aside from being a stupid analogy, job adjustments have already been called to be done later on, same for enfeebles. And why not adjust other stuff till those are ready?
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By Shiva.Dourid 2012-07-06 15:11:50
| 07-06-2012 05:48 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1130] Battle-related Adjustments
The interval between the conclusion of battle and the next possible time an attack command can be carried out will be adjusted.
The interval between the time a ranged attack finishes and the next possible time a new command can be carried out will be reduced.
The guard and parry skills will be adjusted so that they may level up even if the skills do not activate when players are attacked.
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Am I the only one who had to read that twice?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-06 15:12:10
I JUST *** CAPPED GUARD YESTERDAY! *** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought of Zekky's hashtag'ed post on GW. It's like when it rains after you wash your car. ITS THE FREE ADVIIIIICE TAHT YOU JUST CANT TAKE
ahem
If it's any consolation, capped guarding didn't really afford you anything aside from the satisfaction of completing it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2012-07-06 15:12:48
Read it 4 times, made this face;
Then wondered how it made sense, but hey, easier to skill up now
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-07-06 15:14:32
I read it once and understood it perfectly.
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-07-06 15:24:42
Whoa, the last one is pretty crazy. No more pulling teeth to get guard/parrying up.
Also curious if the attribute merit cap will remain 12 or if they'll let you cap a single one all the way up to 24.
My guess is still a cap of 12 points per stat, but an overall cap of 24 points for the category. Helllloooo 12 DEX baybay.
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By Bismarck.Danz 2012-07-06 15:32:49
sadly i can't even manage to test the skill-up rates on the test server. they "fixed" the skills with what job you change to to automatically cap when you zone... >.> main reason i spent 3-4 hours installing/updating it.. wanted to know how much of my post update time i'm going to spend skilling up guard/parry. looks like ill just have to wait to find out D:
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-06 16:05:11
Those are all nice adjustments.
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By Bahamut.Thetone 2012-07-06 16:12:36
All that time I burned working on Guard....
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2012-07-06 16:28:26
So does anybody have any of the new numbers of the Protect and Minne spells?
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By Sylph.Wolfebane 2012-07-06 16:41:40
Well evasion skill has always worked that way. You never had to actually evade anything to get a skillup. At least its consistant now even it does not make sense.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-07-06 16:49:06
Can they make Jubaku: Ichi easier to land in VW (higher teirs)
Need Wind Shot Huton full enfeeb gear to have a remote chance.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-06 16:53:03
I think the change to guard parry is stupid as hell. yup, your guard skill is gonna go up when you don't actually guard. >_<
| 07-06-2012 05:44 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1128] Magic Adjustments
The following spell effects will be raised:
In addition, the following effects will also be increased:
The bonus defense enhancement granted by Protectra V.
The Protecra V enhancement attribute of Cleric's Duckbills +2.
The enchantment attribute of Protect Ring and Protect Earring.
The Fields of Valor and Grounds of Valor field support effect White Magic: Protect.
Resistances to the following spells will be changed:
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| 07-06-2012 05:46 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1129] Merit Point Adjustment
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Original topic for discussion
| 07-06-2012 05:48 AM | | Gildrein | | Community Rep | |
| [dev1130] Battle-related Adjustments
The interval between the conclusion of battle and the next possible time an attack command can be carried out will be adjusted.
The interval between the time a ranged attack finishes and the next possible time a new command can be carried out will be reduced.
The guard and parry skills will be adjusted so that they may level up even if the skills do not activate when players are attacked.
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