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 Bismarck.Snprphnx
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2012-07-04 06:49:50
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The yearly census is up. and while the vast majority of is isn't big news, I did find this bit on page 4 to be a WTF moment...

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To finish things off, let's take a look at the data for popular items not belonging to any of the above sets.
The wide disparity between the numbers for Ridill and the Defending Ring are likely a testament to relative frequency of players taking on the monsters that drop each (the drop rates for the two items are identical).
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-04 06:51:33
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16k Kannagi. That's like 4 servers of Kannagi.

Skeleton warrior in the list of most dangerous fiends lmao.

Who are the 6k derps that died to Celaeno?
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 06:54:40
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Looks like defending ring drop rate isn't as low as we all thought. Always heard of a low drop rate but I know ridill drop rate isn't all that bad.

Always sold my shanks before, might have to hold on to them now.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-04 06:55:31
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This sudden surge in popularity likely stems from both the effectiveness of familiars for small parties and the ability of dancers to heal HP, easily trigger enemy weaknesses, and allow beastmasters use dual wield, thereby dramatically enhancing their capabilities along with their familiars'. Maybe the memory of how effective this job combo was in the overhauled Dynamis remains as fresh in your mind as it is in ours.


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Considering how often it seems to make the news,
we were a bit surprised to find Resolution in fourth place.


OMGWTF NERFS INC



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Moving right along, let's take a look at mythic weapons, which—compared with relics—remain extremely rare. We're quite curious to see what next year's data will look like after the Aht Urhgan revisions that are currently being implemented have had time to play out.

inc dollar store mythics from neo salvage ofc




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Most of the higher ranked jobs either retained their positions from last year's census or differed by only a single place. A striking exception was the Blue Mage, which jumped from 17th to 10th, a phenomenon which we attribute to the fact that blue mages not only can adapt to different situations by using various spell configurations, but are useful in many different content areas as well.

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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-07-04 06:55:49
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
16k Kannagi. That's like 4 servers of Kannagi.

Skeleton warrior in the list of most dangerous fiends lmao.

Who are the 6k derps that died to Celaeno?

Ryand on my server dies to any NM at least 1000 times a week so can blame him somewhat ;)
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By Leviathan.Korialstrasz 2012-07-04 06:57:20
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As always, there's "that guy" who capped his defender recast merits.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-04 06:57:34
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
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Considering how often it seems to make the news,
we were a bit surprised to find Resolution in fourth place.


OMGWTF NERFS INC
I think that means they expected it to be at the top.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2012-07-04 07:00:29
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RMT Mandies are 99th on the list for KOs. Silly RMT
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 07:20:45
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inc dollar store mythics from neo salvage ofc

Sell all your alex now for 20k, rebuy it all later when it drops to 3k each!
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-07-04 07:50:24
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Regardless of how low alex drops, mythics will still never be as common as relics or empy and certainly never become "dollar store" comparable because of the massive amount of other requirements in making them. Unless they reduce the requirements or modify how the current system works (primarily the limitation of tags) that isn't going to change. (That isn't to say you won't see more, you will certainly see more mythics if alex is more available, even if the price doesn't go down.
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 08:04:28
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Mythics will still be the rarest due to all of the other requirements. But if neo salvage drops the prices down to something like ~5k each it will give players like me who want to make one a more reasonable time frame to do so. 20k to 5k thats about a 450mil difference.
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By Bismarck.Zander 2012-07-04 08:24:34
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Our staunch surveyors have braved the wilds once again, staving off
brawny beasts and traipsing over troves of trackless territory to bring
you the latest and greatest information pertaining to your realm.

This year, in addition to the widely lauded top monster rankings and the
perennial statistics on relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons, our census
crew has brought back data detailing the numbers of popular provisions
in Vana'diel!
Our agents' field report is also chock full of figures regarding weapon
skill merit point upgrades, Voidwatch, and a veritable cornucopia of other
categories, so pore over the plethora of pages and enjoy all the
data-dotted discoveries you could ever desire (alas and alack, there's
little alliteration within)!

Read on to ascertain the present state of the realm.
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By DANIEL10 2012-07-04 09:26:15
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Avitori said: »
Mythics will still be the rarest due to all of the other requirements. But if neo salvage drops the prices down to something like ~5k each it will give players like me who want to make one a more reasonable time frame to do so. 20k to 5k thats about a 450mil difference.

That's toobad I sold them 20k/each
Lolz! I'm not going price down :)
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2012-07-04 10:30:37
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Could not help but notice this:
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[Combined Wealth of All Linkshell Members]
Ranking      Gil         World Name     Members
1        3,168,407,317	  Fenrir           86
That Fenrir is full of hoarders, nothing new for me ... ;)

Now this is amazing:
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[Number of GM Calls Made]
Ranking 	GM Calls 	World Name 	Members
   1         5,635	    Carbuncle	  22
Omg these guys alone made over 5600 GM calls... The GMs must "love" them ...
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By Carbuncle.Altair 2012-07-04 10:33:54
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Fenrir.Mariane said: »
Now this is amazing:
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[Number of GM Calls Made]
Ranking 	GM Calls 	World Name 	Members
   1         5,635	    Carbuncle	  22
Omg these guys alone made over 5600 GM calls... The GMs must "love" them ...
I'm intensely curious to know who these guys are.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-07-04 11:01:28
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
The yearly census is up. and while the vast majority of is isn't big news, I did find this bit on page 4 to be a WTF moment...

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To finish things off, let's take a look at the data for popular items not belonging to any of the above sets.
The wide disparity between the numbers for Ridill and the Defending Ring are likely a testament to relative frequency of players taking on the monsters that drop each (the drop rates for the two items are identical).
That's some serious *** since TH affects Ridill and not DRing, but frequency definitely has an impact since people probably pop close to ten NQs for every HQ and going for DRing involves a pretty serious gil investment given that it's basically his only desirable drop. Granted Nidhogg isn't quite as in-demand now with the Ein revamps but still.

Strange that RDM moved up in job rankings when it's less useful than ever (who would've thought it possible?). Also weird seeing more PLDs around.

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Maybe the memory of how effective this job combo was in the overhauled Dynamis remains as fresh in your mind as it is in ours.
Oh yes, we all remember BST/DNC...

Love how there is a grand total of zero active SCH mythics. I remember seeing the first one posted on BG.

Crafting data is completely unsurprising. Zero level 110 crafters in all but cooking and fishing, both of which are relatively easy to level.
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By Sylph.Sagiaurex 2012-07-04 11:18:32
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Strange that RDM moved up in job rankings when it's less useful than ever (who would've thought it possible?). Also weird seeing more PLDs around.

I can retire happy now
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By Odin.Liela 2012-07-04 11:20:05
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I'm a little confused. The Main/Support Job Rankings, it lists blm as the most popular sub for whm. Whm/rdm also makes the list. But whm/sch is not popular enough to be listed.

I have always preferred whm/sch. There doesn't seem to be that many significant advantages to going whm/blm, unless we are in just desperate need of stunners or something. I must be missing something or doing something very wrong. Clue me in? O.o?
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2012-07-04 11:26:19
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Odin.Liela said: »
I'm a little confused. The Main/Support Job Rankings, it lists blm as the most popular sub for whm. Whm/rdm also makes the list. But whm/sch is not popular enough to be listed.

I have always preferred whm/sch. There doesn't seem to be that many significant advantages to going whm/blm, unless we are in just desperate need of stunners or something. I must be missing something or doing something very wrong. Clue me in? O.o?

They called sch sub other
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 14:13:11
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That's some serious *** since TH affects Ridill and not DRing,

proof where?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-07-04 14:15:31
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You do know that TH doesn't effect exclusive drops... right? Either Pixie Earring drops or Dring drops, never both and only neither if everyone in the group has whichever item would have dropped.
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-07-04 14:25:24
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Who the hell are those 3 ppl that did murgleis this last year ?!
Edit: nvm they did an upgrade i believe
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 14:32:49
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I guess that makes sense. But that doesn't change the fact that SE now says the drop rates are identical, TH or not. From what I understand of TH, it doesnt change the drop rate per se but gives you more "rolls" for it to possibly drop
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-07-04 14:44:26
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Regardless of the intricacies of TH mechanics, the functional impact is that TH makes one drop more often yet has no impact on the other. As such, the effective drop rate of Ridill is higher than DRing because people will bring some form of TH to Fafnir. They're right from a technical, referencing the drop tables perspective, but it's represented in a way that is misleading from a player's perspective since there are common ways to influence the droprate of one of the items but not the other. Just checking the droprate reports on gamerescape, you could pretty reasonably expect at least twice as many Ridills as DRings per kill simply due to TH.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-04 14:46:29
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Happy to see Blus on the rise. Also confused as to why rdm is so high for said reasons listed above. Not surprising at all that mandaus and aegis' are the most common relic.
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By Avitori 2012-07-04 14:51:57
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Fair enough, I guess I contradicted myself there. Think I just got a little excited that maybe i might see a dring drop.. I think i'll just stick with my plan and sell the shanks instead of trying to win the SE lottery
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By Asura.Fattrav 2012-07-04 15:13:04
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rdm is so high on the list because you needed dia3 or bio3 for voidwatch procs
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-07-04 15:24:36
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[Relic Weapons Possessed by a Linkshell]
1 101 Odin 168
2 59 Carbuncle 67
3 55 Shiva 101

[Mythic Weapons Possessed by a Linkshell ]
1 6 Carbuncle 97
1 6 Phoenix 54
1 6 Shiva 92
1 6 Asura 35
2 5 Carbuncle 67
2 5 Odin 168

 [Empyrean Weapons Possessed by a Linkshell (Total of Level 80, 85, 90, 95, 99 and 99+)]
1 322 Odin 168
2 248 Odin 98
3 238 Phoenix 104

 [Combined Login Time for Linkshell Members]
1 2,606,604 Odin 168
2 2,386,087 Siren 161
3 2,318,973 Siren 293

[Combined Wealth of All Linkshell Members]
1 3,168,407,317 Fenrir 86
2 2,555,734,195 Odin 168
3 1,849,145,191 Cerberus 222

 [Number of GM Calls Made]
1 5,635 Carbuncle 22
2 2,334 Odin 168
3 1,952 Lakshmi 83

Who are these guys?
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By Asura.Miyara 2012-07-04 15:47:31
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17,000 Relic Weapons in the game, almost 10,000 obtained in last year.

Less than 600 Mythic Weapons.

Time to fix the mythic requirements Square.
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